Fantasy Draft Round 1

[Llamamoto]

we have no injuries, so they'd all be fine

Yeah that was a joke. My D crushes his though.

 

[Panda Bear]

Whoever even considered voting for Ottawa ahead of Carolina, think again.

OEL - Trouba is the most overrated, overpaid pairing of all time. (I drafted that pairing once and I got attacked for it lol)

Now compare that to Slavin - Parayko.

Oh, and he was Rasmus Ristolainen on his team.

as i scrolled i thought to myself "could ottawa win? it looks li-"

and then i saw their defence and vomited eighteen times. i'm in terrible condition from seeing that defence

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Definitive proof that Montreal is better than Philly.

Presenting... the advancest of stats:

 

[emptyNedder]

Vegas would comfortably be the hardest team in these playoffs to play against. They will absolutely crush any team physically, be stingy defensively, and I have the elite forwards... plus Big Ben in net

While the voters have yet to see reality:

• Vegas' 1C has only made it out of the first round once and only to the second round; Chicago's 1C has 2 Cups
• Seider is quickly becoming the defensive equivalent of Elias Pettersson

• Chicago has 3 players who are consistently good in the playoffs: Seth Jones, Reilly Smith, and Cam Atkinson
• While Bishop has been good in the playoffs .924/2.27; he is hardly an advantage over Talbot .923/2.46 and/or Greiss .922/2.43

Here's hoping the voters realize results are more important than rhetoric.

Really enjoying the analysis

 

[Llamamoto]

Whoever is voting ahead of , you can still turn back now.

OEL - Trouba gets utterly demolished by Slavin - Parayko. It isn't remotely close.
The same goes for our 2nd pairings. Nurse - Demers >> McNabb - Ristolainen.

Our offense is pretty similar, and Ottawa has the better goaltending. (Raanta is perfectly capable though)

But none of that matters when Ottawa's D is that bad. Hellebuyck's stats would go well below .910 playing behind that D.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Whoever is voting ahead of , you can still turn back now.

OEL - Trouba gets utterly demolished by Slavin - Parayko. It isn't remotely close.
The same goes for our 2nd pairings. Nurse - Demers >> McNabb - Ristolainen.

Our offense is pretty similar, and Ottawa has the better goaltending. (Raanta is perfectly capable though)

But none of that matters when Ottawa's D is that bad. Hellebuyck's stats would go well below .910 playing behind that D.

This ^^^

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Me: Sees the vote is 6 to 7 for Carolina

Also Me:

 

[hockeynorth]

ROUND ENDS TONIGHT AT 5PM EST

 

[hockeynorth]

Matchup Overview:
Philly winning, but too close for now
Detroit winning, but too close for now
Ottawa winning, but too close for now
New Jersey leading
Vegas leading
Anaheim leading
St Louis all but moved on
Dallas leading

 

[hockeynorth]

What do I do if we have ties at 5pm today? Coin flip?

 

[Kent Nilsson]

Tiebreaker 1: votes from people in the game
Tiebreaker 2: main board

 

[hockeynorth]

Tiebreaker 1: votes from people in the game
Tiebreaker 2: main board

except... I forgot to reveal the voters cause I'm dumb

Mainboards it is tho, I forgot I put rules in place for that

 

[hockeynorth]

If Philly (who was a WC2 seed) wins, I think we can say a Metro team should win it all for sure

 

[Llamamoto]

Both division leaders in the East are losing to the wild card teams.

Guys please change your votes lol. D is important.

 

[hockeynorth]

Both division leaders in the East are losing to the wild card teams.

Guys please change your votes lol. D is important.

I am very surprised Carolina is losing to Ottawa, but I myself had to debate it.

Montreal losing to Philly I'm not.

 

[Llamamoto]

@BeLeafing and @LT, I hope your appreciation for defense inspired you to vote Carolina over Ottawa!

 

[emptyNedder]

@BeLeafing and @LT, I hope your appreciation for defense inspired you to vote Carolina over Ottawa!

Appreciation for defense would have Chicago win at least 2 rounds.

 

[Llamamoto]

I'm also really surprised that Detroit's beating Toronto.

Offense is similar, Detroit is a lot better in net, but Toronto's D is miles better.

Lindell - Pietrangelo >> Werenski - Brodie, and I'm not a fan of Lindell.
Chiarot - Dumba >> Cole - Murphy as well.

 

[m0pe]

Both division leaders in the East are losing to the wild card teams.

Guys please change your votes lol. D is important.

I just can't vote Ottawa with that D. Those top-3 D may be my 3 least favourite D in the league.

Appreciation for defense would have Chicago win at least 2 rounds.

I think your D is solid but not spectacular enough to make up the middle-6 forward gap which I think is pretty large.

I really like your team and had Chicago by far 2nd place in Central (only behind my Blues), but Vegas is a tough Round 1 draw.

 

[hockeynorth]

Matchup C:


Jonathan Drouin - Mark Scheifele - Brock Boeser
Warren Foegele - Eric Staal - T.J Oshie
Josh Leivo - Erik Haula - Joonas Donskoi
Jordan Martinook - Alex Turcotte - Morgan Geekie

Jaccob Slavin - Colton Parayko
Darnell Nurse - Jason Demers
Nikita Zadorov - Jordan Oesterle

Antti Raanta
Linus Ullmark

vs

Alexis Lafreniere (0.925)	Sidney Crosby (8.700)	Josh Anderson (5.500)
Tyler Ennis (1.000)	Adam Henrique (5.825)	Vladimir Tarasenko (7.500)
Jason Dickinson (1.500)	Charlie Coyle (5.250)	Jake Virtanen (2.550)
Jujhar Khaira (1.300)	Mark Jankowski (0.700)	Colton Sceviour (1.200)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Oliver Ekman-Larsson (8.250)	Jacob Trouba (8.000)
Brayden McNabb (2.500)	Rasmus Ristolainen (5.400)
Juuso Valimaki (0.894)	Trevor Van Riemsdyk (0.800)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Connor Hellebuyck (6.166)

Malcom Subban (0.900)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

My breakdown:

A LARGE portion of this matchup comes down to how you feel about Lafreniere next season. I don't think it's unreasonable to say Laf outperforms Boeser next year, and I can definitely see the Ottawa 1st line being stronger.

Next you have Ennis who's like a wash to Foegele, but Staal > Henrique. Unfortunately for Carolina Tarasenko crushes Oshie, but idk how well Henrique can feed Senko (though Henrique is like an O'Reilly lite). I do think you can confidently say Ottawas top 6 > Carolinas though.

Outside of Coyle, Carolinas 3rd line would definitely be strange than Ottawas though, and I think you can say the same for L4 since I believe Turcotte could be a 3C by next season.

The D is where it's interesting. I think there's no disputing Carolinas top pair > Ottawas, and same for D2. BUT Valimaki is the wild card. He could very well be a strong #4 next season, with that said, I think Carolina does take the D overall.

What made me pause is Hellebuyck. Accompanied by Crosby and co up front, is the gap between Hellebuyck (best goalie in the league and most likely to steal a series IMO) and Raanta enough to put Ottawa over top. I personally like OEL and Trouba, though not quite to the degree of Slavin/Parayko, but I do believe OEL/Trouba could be a very strong second pair. I thought long and hard about if Crosby + Hellebuyck could win out, and in a number of scenarios I think they do. Where I felt Ottawa was most lacking was a better playmaking C, or better winger for Tarasenko, OR a stronger #3D. I felt in either case, then yes, Hellebuyck + Crosby alone could get Ottawa through Carolina, but without that you have Slavin/Parayko shutting down Crosby, and Ristolainen/McNabb being a liability with Tarasenko on the second pair. I think Hellebuyck gets this to 6 or 7 games, but that ultimately Carolina was just more rounded and deeper, but that it COULD swing if Lafreniere ends up having a Matthews level 1st season, instead of a Hischier level.

 

[Llamamoto]

Appreciation for defense would have Chicago win at least 2 rounds.

Your top pairing is amazing, and then you have two very good 3rd pairings imo. Still a solid D-core though.

I think you matchup really well against Vegas. With Hughes, Kapanen, Atkinson, and Grabner, you're probably the fastest team in the entire league. Vegas is a little slow, and I think Chicago would take advantage of that.

Depite that though, the gap in goaltending made the difference for me. If you had taken a goalie a couple of rounds earlier I would have voted you ahead of Vegas.

 

[hockeynorth]

Appreciation for defense would have Chicago win at least 2 rounds.

How?

 

[BeLeafing]

I'm also really surprised that Detroit's beating Toronto.

Offense is similar, Detroit is a lot better in net, but Toronto's D is miles better.

Lindell - Pietrangelo >> Werenski - Brodie, and I'm not a fan of Lindell.
Chiarot - Dumba >> Cole - Murphy as well.

Yeah. Seems to be the name of the game in this one, defense is not getting any appreciation whatsoever. I don't see the arguments for Detroit over Toronto and Ottawa over Carolina. The D cores are both much better than their counterpart and offenses are comparable. It would be a shame if these two teams were eliminated now.

 

[hockeynorth]

I just can't vote Ottawa with that D. Those top-3 D may be my 3 least favourite D in the league.



I think your D is solid but not spectacular enough to make up the middle-6 forward gap which I think is pretty large.

I really like your team and had Chicago by far 2nd place in Central (only behind my Blues), but Vegas is a tough Round 1 draw.

I agree, I love Chicago, but I have them in my 2nd tier

 

[Panda Bear]

@BeLeafing the thrust of the argument for Detroit is that they have two fantastic centres and Vasilevski with a bunch of other factors being a wash