HF Habs: Expansion Draft 2021 Thread: Price Waives NMC edition

[417]

But you cannot put your strategy on luck. There is NO WAY St.Louis thought Binnington could play like he did. And frankly, you wouldn't like it either.

It's not about luck...

If you have a goalie who you believe in, he doesn't have to have the reputation that Carey Price has.

It's not as important for every team to have the "best goalie on the planet".

I'm sure alot of teams are fine building a great team around a good goalie and banking on that.

That's not luck just a different strategy.

 

[Habaneros]

Not sure I would have ever dream to see a list where Victor Mete would be protected...lol

Pierre McGuire favorite??? lol

 

[Schooner Guy]

Tarasenko is a gamble but has tremendous upside. He also only has two years left on his deal.

How much upside does he have though? He scored 40 five years ago and then became a 30 goal scorer. His shoulder is a mess, he's about to turn 30, and he's very one dimensional. He was a liability on the ice last season, couldn't produce and takes up a pile of space. I'd rather put $7.5m over the next two years towards another asset.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Well not mediocre....but yeah, he did let the charge. If a great goalie was important for a powerhouse like TBay....imagine how it is for other teams. Anyway, I guess we'll learn that when he retires or leave. They better start drafting goalies left and right...

Without crazy goaltending we're out in the first round. Everyone here would be talking about how much we suck. MB might've been fired...

Let's face it. We went as far as Price could take us. And that's always been the case here. We rely on him way too much. If he doesn't do headstands we lose... and he takes the blame to boot.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If they dont pick Price, I think Fleury or Kulak will be picked since they have low cap hit.
There are a lot of good players available to Seattle, so I doubt they would wants to use their cap space on guys like Byron or Drouin.

 

[JuicyHam]

It's strange because 3-4 months ago, quite a few of us were saying how both Weber and Price (and even Drouin) should be left unprotected during the expansion draft. No way in 100 years would I have actually thought they would have done it. Funny how things work out...

No way did I think it would actually happen and also a lot of people would be upset about it

 

[Schooner Guy]

Lebrun has said they can be traded back.

And Lebrun quoted Bill Daly. Engels is only saying this because his colleague Elliotte speculated the league wouldn't approve it.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

How much upside does he have though? He scored 40 five years ago and then became a 30 goal scorer. His shoulder is a mess, he's about to turn 30, and he's very one dimensional. He was a liability on the ice last season, couldn't produce and takes up a pile of space. I'd rather put $7.5m over the next two years towards another asset.

Fair enough, you could be right. He'd be a gamble.

And if we're going to gamble, I'd actually rather do it on OEL.

 

[jfhabs]

How much upside does he have though? He scored 40 five years ago and then became a 30 goal scorer. His shoulder is a mess, he's about to turn 30, and he's very one dimensional. He was a liability on the ice last season, couldn't produce and takes up a pile of space. I'd rather put $7.5m over the next two years towards another asset.

The good part of the gamble I like is it's only 2 years

 

[417]

The guy just led a mediocre club to the finals. I don't think he's a negative asset. If I were TO, I'd deal Marner for him.

You have to seperate the player and the asset.

He's got an immovable contract...the Habs could put out a memo to the entire league and despite his heroics which live in folklore amongst Habs fans who love a good goalie story....there are very few teams who would be capable of adding him without imposing some incentive for the Habs to pay.

It's taken an expansion draft for that possibility to even exist (as unlikely as I think it is).

So when I say he has negative asset value...don't take that to mean that I thinks he's a bad player.

Two separate things...

 

[McGees]

 

[FrankMTL]

29.1 million in cap hit being left unprotected by Montreal

Price
Weber
Drouin
Byron
Kulak

 

[M.C.G. 31]

tell me why Seattle would take Byron or Drouin over Price lol

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

And Lebrun quoted Bill Daly. Engels is only saying this because his colleague Elliotte speculated the league wouldn't approve it.

Maybe I'm giving MB too much credit here, but I don't think he'd do this without knowing for sure that it could be done.

Then again, this is ALL speculative. For all we know MB just thinks they won't take Price because of the 11 mil bonus, or Price has asked to go there. No way for us to know anything.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

It's strange because 3-4 months ago, quite a few of us were saying how both Weber and Price (and even Drouin) should be left unprotected during the expansion draft. No way in 100 years would I have actually thought they would have done it. Funny how things work out...

Yeah and hfboards self-righteous knights in shining armors quickly attacked that idea as bad faith and negativism or just being a bad fan, bla bla bla... same for Drouin.

Still crazy to see that list.

 

[Habaneros]

guys , if Seattle doesnt take Price imagine Bergevin's phone ..how many teams will be calling him asking to trade...LOL

 

[Joe Lamb]

Killorn, Foote or Palat to seattle

If I am Seattle, I take Joseph

 

[Schooner Guy]

Perfect, we can properly rebuild like we should have ages ago

We don't even need to completely rebuild. Suzuki, KK and Caufield will keep progressing and we could have lots of cap space. We might miss the playoffs this year (probably close to 50-50 chance) and grab a lottery pick but I see us being in the playoff picture by 2022-23.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You have to seperate the player and the asset.

He's got an immovable contract...the Habs could put out a memo to the entire league and despite his heroics which live in folklore amongst Habs fans who love a good goalie story....there are very few teams who would be capable of adding him without imposing some incentive for the Habs to pay.

It's taken an expansion draft for that possibility to even exist (as unlikely as I think it is).

So when I say he has negative asset value...don't take that to mean that I thinks he's a bad player.

Two separate things...

That's fair.

But I think there are definitely teams that would pony up for him. Esp after seeing him take Montreal to the finals. I think TO would do it. I think Colorado would do it.

 

[SnapVirus]

Man Seattle could have a better team than Vegas.

lot of good players available.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

Maybe I'm giving MB too much credit here, but I don't think he'd do this without knowing for sure that it could be done.

Then again, this is ALL speculative. For all we know MB just thinks they won't take Price because of the 11 mil bonus, or Price has asked to go there. No way for us to know anything.

Well, MB thought Carolina wouldn't match the big first year bonus he gave to Aho on his contract...

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Tarasenko is a gamble but has tremendous upside. He also only has two years left on his deal.

I would not take Tarasenko from St. Louis. I would take Vince Dunn. A top 4D with puck moving ability is not easy to get. He's also only 24.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Not sure I would have ever dream to see a list where Victor Mete would be protected...lol

There's no other D to protect.

 

[McGees]

Based on Angela Prices ‘don’t worry it will make sense soon’ comment. I think they take Price and trade him back to us eating part of his cap for our 1st/prospect etc. (Assuming that is allowed)

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Sure seems like maybe one side wants to move on. I can’t imagine doing this in order to protect Jake f***ing Allen, but who knows.