Post-Game Talk: Ethan Bear Hype Train - One Year Delayed, But We’re Finally Here Boys!

[SwedishFire]

There's a lack of C on the team.. Drai and McD will play together most of the time so that negates 1 C by default. RNH is locked in as #2C. Sheahan is either #3C (not really ideal as he's lacking in offense but he's ok there)... then that leaves a #4C spot open... and Cave is the next best option... and can win some faceoffs as well. Granlund is not a very good C... neither is Gagner and the only other option would be Khaira... not ideal either... but maybe as you say they'd go that route if they put Sheahan as #3C.

P Russell and Cave are the same player really (differences are marginal)... so I think they'd actually default to the player who's a centre.

I'd agree that both Haas and Nygard would do best with a short term stint in Bakersfield if they'd agree to go there.

Burdasov I feel will either be lured back to the KHL by a bigger contract OR will sign with another NHL team with slightly more cap space than the Oilers have (there are other teams that may be interested as well).

I hope Holland can put out some magic once again, and maybe trade away a useless player. Maybe Granlund? And sign Burdasov to his former caphit. I think granlund was a insurance in worst case of.'

I think Sheahan should be our 4C, not 3C. There is a glaring hole at 3 C. So maybe they should put Haas there, even if i dont like that idea. But again, how many Oilers, except Draisaitl and Nurse had become better players since stint in AHL....... well Bear maybe now.

Bottom 6
Gagner -Haas - Archibald. almost speedy and offensive line. Gagner is the hardest piece in the lines-puzzle
Chiasson - Sheahan - Kassian. Heavy line.

Granlund traded for a 6th rounder to whoever takes him.
extras then
P Russel, Khaira

Nygård, Cave to AHL.

Jurco has a brain, so he should be used to that strength to maximize the outcome of the lines.
Continue to play him with McDavid and Neal, They seem to fit.

There is an overweight on RW as said. LW gets weaker after the top line. Jurco is our top pure LW.
I had to convert Gagner to LW.

 

[SwedishFire]

"ConnorMcMullet, post: 164731417, member: 287299"]I'd go with:

Burdasov - McDavid - Draisaitl
Jurco - Nuge - Neal
Chiasson - Gagner - Kassian
Khaira - Sheahan - Archibald

Nurse - Larsson
Klefbom - Persson
Russell - Bear

Yes

But that leaves out Nygard, Haas and Granlund. All off-season signings by Holland. If he does cut all 3 of them, he's all about icing the best team, regardless of who he signed. Complete opposite of Chiarelli/McLellan, who penciled in off season signings automatically and gave the illusion of competition.
Also Cave and P. Russell, who are rock solid bottom 6 players with tenacity and puck control. I'd keep one of them as the 13th forward

I think they would look to trade Granlund, for signing Burdasov. We have seen granlund in the leauge for some years, everyone knows who he is. That´s the best solution.

Nygård and Haas could play some month in AHL; then come up I guess. Nice to see heavy depth on RW. But LW and C looks thin.
The outcome of Haas is very important for this team.

 

[LaGu]

Nygard and Haas can't play in the AHL. If we waive them they go back to Europe.

Yes they can*, and I for one think it would not be a bad solution to start the season. Give them a bit more time to see if they can improve their game on NA ice.


*
hockeysverige.se: What if you have to start out playing in the AHL?
Nygård: - I signed a two-way contract so it could be that I start in the AHL. I am prepared for that as well, if I end up in the AHL I will deal with it.

swisshockeynews.ch
Haas: "My agent has stipulated that if I crossed the Atlantic, it was out of the question that I spend the season in the AHL. If it is necessary to get used to the play over there, it is clear that I will go down for one or two weeks. But if this stay were to continue, a solution would be found for me to return to SC Bern"

 

[LaGu]

Obviously they won the game and the new guys are the most fun to watch/follow, but one of the main things that interested me going into this game was how McDavid and Draisaitl would do on different lines as C. I did not see the game and so far I have seen very little commenting about that specific with regards to game reports. Anyone with a run-down of how it went? Worth trying again?

 

[Llamamoto]

I have made a Bear to go alongside my Llama:

 

[Oilers in NS]

Manning to the AHL. Thanks Chia

And Caggiula to 2nd line in Chicago. Thx again Chia

 

[Oilers in NS]

Matthews has requested a trade to Edmonton upon learning he could play on a

Matthews Bear Hass

Trio.

Said Matthews:

"It's not about (Babcock) it's just about being comfortable and I feel most comfortable being out there with a Bear Haas. How often do you get an opportunity to play with a Bear Haas?"

Here is the trio here.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Colby Cave has 2 big advantages... plays C and is decent on the dot plus he's dirt cheap on the cap hit... below league minimum.

Hate to say it because he's got almost no offense in his game, but he's a type of player that GM's and coaches love for his work effort and value type contract. I think it's HARD to pry that type of player off the roster.

The broadcast comments on Cave were driving me nuts last night. "Oh he gets so many chances, he gets 1-2 chances a night, no, he gets 5-6 chances a night. As if this is a net positive at all.

The trouble is, and I point this out regularly. If its Colby Cave getting the EV chance theres a negligible chance of anything going in. Players like Colby Cave absolutely stymie your bottomxix production. Just kill it with futility. Burn it with fire.

All effort all day isn't enough. Theres lots of guys like that in the AHL. Cave is not talented enough to play in this league.


Bear on the other hand has filthy offensive skills and instinct jumping into plays. I hope the spotters are getting this but Bear is ALWAYS good specifically with Draisaitl. Bear and Nurse work better in reading Drai than any D on this team, and often better than some of the forwards on this team read Drai. Drai, due to his talent passing, slowing plays down, finding trailer, has a nice working relationship with Bear.

I want more of this.

Not noted but Smith in net is really helping Bear out on back end. Smith, calm and cool with the puck is helping to mitigate some of the problems Bear has with NHL forecheck. The addition of Smith in net could make Bear plausible on the back end beyond being a specialist player.

Smith, Bear, Draisaitl is a symbiotic relationship that probably nobody else has commented on. Vets helping a young player and the young player helping in turn..

 

[Drivesaitl]

What?? No spots open in top 6? there is a glaring hole in top 6 beside RNH and Neal. Haven´t you been the boards this summer? Kassian fills in on the topline for the cause of lack of talent. If actual talent comes in, then Kassian will be pushed down. If Tippet thinks like this, I will be really sad.

I have NO IDEA why they haven´t already signed Burdasov.
Jurco - McDavid - Neal
Burdasov -RNH - Draisaitl
Chiasson - Sheahan - Kassian
Gagner - Granlund - Archibald

extras: Khaira, P Russell.
I feel no reason to give Cave a spot just only because he is a C, P Russell had fighted for this spot, and is the more valued player.
But soo many RW on this team....

Klefbom - Bear
Nurse - Larsson
Lagesson - Benning

sub : Russel
injured : Persson

To AHL for aclimitizing time : Nygård, Haas.
To AHL just because : Cave, Manning.

Dissapointing preseason for Nygård, mayve it was ment to be.

Agreed with your forwards and that specifically Jurco, Burdasov, Sheahan, possibly even Archibald have all made the team.

Additionally that Cave, Nygard, and Khaira have not done enough. The object in recruiting good players is to bump players that are less good.

In what Oilers world is it not MORE important to sign wingers that can play topsix, like Jurco, or Burdasov, and have the skill to not look out of place, than to fill out the roster with no talents like Cave and Khaira?

I do think though that P Russell has also shown enough to be here somewhere.

I entirely disagree that K Russel isn't making the team. He's been the best looking defender and has a whole other jump and speed this year. He must have spent the offseason training like a madman. He could be considered the most improved player on the team from what I'm seeing.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Slow sports day. The hipcheck made the sports reel here in Thailand

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I can't be the only one that went into this summer with Jones, Persson, Laggesson and even Bouchard as being more likely to make the team than Bear.

Bear rising above all of them is huge for our asset value and our ability to move some D out in the near future for offensive help!

 

[Da McBomb]

All aboard!! CHOOO CHOOO

 

[jukon]

Seen a bunch of pairings posted but nothing I agree with yet.

The D with Persson out:
Nurse-Larsson
Klef-Bear
Lagesson-Russell
Benning

I don't mind Benning as a player, and I want him to succeed but he's playing himself out of the lineup.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Seen a bunch of pairings posted but nothing I agree with yet.

The D with Persson out:
Nurse-Larsson
Klef-Bear
Lagesson-Russell
Benning

I don't mind Benning as a player, and I want him to succeed but he's playing himself out of the lineup.

I was going to post this, I was thinking this group as well, with Lagesson possibly switching with Bear, just to try that look.

 

[Seachd]

Haagendaaz

Let’s end this one right now.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Yes they can*, and I for one think it would not be a bad solution to start the season. Give them a bit more time to see if they can improve their game on NA ice.


*
hockeysverige.se: What if you have to start out playing in the AHL?
Nygård: - I signed a two-way contract so it could be that I start in the AHL. I am prepared for that as well, if I end up in the AHL I will deal with it.

swisshockeynews.ch
Haas: "My agent has stipulated that if I crossed the Atlantic, it was out of the question that I spend the season in the AHL. If it is necessary to get used to the play over there, it is clear that I will go down for one or two weeks. But if this stay were to continue, a solution would be found for me to return to SC Bern"

That explains why Haas packed light

 

[joestevens29]

Yes they can*, and I for one think it would not be a bad solution to start the season. Give them a bit more time to see if they can improve their game on NA ice.


*
hockeysverige.se: What if you have to start out playing in the AHL?
Nygård: - I signed a two-way contract so it could be that I start in the AHL. I am prepared for that as well, if I end up in the AHL I will deal with it.

swisshockeynews.ch
Haas: "My agent has stipulated that if I crossed the Atlantic, it was out of the question that I spend the season in the AHL. If it is necessary to get used to the play over there, it is clear that I will go down for one or two weeks. But if this stay were to continue, a solution would be found for me to return to SC Bern"

So the question I have is why didn't the Oilers send a private jet and have him cross the pacific instead?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

That explains why Haas packed light

That's fair, Haas is a veteran so I don't blame him for that. He can make comparable money with better travel at home.

 

[CupofOil]

Bear's Highlights Tonight:
- Shakes a Jets player, shuffles down the line, sends a beauty pass right into the slot for a great chance.
- Is the third man in on an offensive rush and shovels one in.
- Shows amazing edges and agility, gets a blast off and scores a goal.

Benning's Highlights Tonight:
- Defeated a very very tricky goal netting and was able to retrieve the stick from the netting's clutches.
- Only fell down once while uncontested.
- Only whiffed on 2 shot attempts.

 

[McSuper]

XXX is the key to all of this. It's the biggest missing piece of the puzzle for the last decade. Bouch is our best hope.... but it would have been nice if maybe we had Hall + Eberle + the 1st that turned into Pulju to deal for XXX.

Yeah , Hall , Eberle , Yakupov 1st , Puljujarvi 1st and the Reinhart trade . I wanted Tkachuk with that pick .

Tkachuk McDavid Draisaitl
Hall RNH Eberle
Jurco Barzal Chiasson
Burdasov Sheahan Kassian
Nygard

We could score ourself out of trouble most nights

 

[CupofOil]

Things I learned tonight:

• Bear is going to be fun to watch.
• Jurco has moves.
• Burdasov is not making this team.
• Chugging mustard during sports is a thing (prevents cramping, apparently)

No, we learned that Burdasov should make the team. He hasn't scored goals but you can plainly see that he's an NHLer, his skating and hockey sense are NHL caliber not to mention the shot.
With that said, he SHOULD make the team but I don't think he will.

 

[ujju2]

No, we learned that Burdasov should make the team. He hasn't scored goals but you can plainly see that he's an NHLer, his skating and hockey sense are NHL caliber not to mention the shot.
With that said, he SHOULD make the team but I don't think he will.

I think he will. Tippett's giving him a fair chance for a reason, and I don't think Nygard/Haas really impress him all that much at this point. Burdasov is already ahead of them imo.

 

[replacement]

Obviously they won the game and the new guys are the most fun to watch/follow, but one of the main things that interested me going into this game was how McDavid and Draisaitl would do on different lines as C. I did not see the game and so far I have seen very little commenting about that specific with regards to game reports. Anyone with a run-down of how it went? Worth trying again?

That's a good question. I'd wager if you'd asked after the second period, you'd have got different answers than now.

They were just okay, and the wingers were just okay.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I wonder if the Oilers split the difference with Burdasov, keep him on a PTO for a couple games in the regular season and make their decision after that.

If I had to guess, I think Haas goes back to Switzerland, Nygard probably goes to Bakersfield for a little seasoning.

I would expect Manning to be on waivers today, I don't think he's made this team in the slightest.

 

[CupofOil]

I think he will. Tippett's giving him a fair chance for a reason, and I don't think Nygard/Haas really impress him all that much at this point. Burdasov is already ahead of them imo.

With Jurco pretty much locking up a spot, it's between Nygard, Burdasov, Haas and Russell for that 14th spot and I have a suspicion that Tippett likes Russell the most of that group. I think Cave is locked into 4th line center.

I wonder if this was the final audition and that we'll see the final roster against Calgary to develop chemistry before opening night. If we don't see any cuts today then there will probably be another audition for the bubble boys.