Erik Karlsson Megathread (All Proposals, Discussion, Speculation, and Rumors) [MOD 3470]

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  1. Volica

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    Calgary's centre depth is horrendous as is. Moving Mony just makes it worse.
    A base around Hamilton & Karlsson makes sense, clearly Calgary's adding here.

    Neither team does this though.
     
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    Then you might want to stay away from the thread titled

    Signed Karlsson for Monahan + Hamilton
     
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    No team is going to give up a top line centre and a first pairing D for one player. And now we have a top line with Jankowski at centre, so that's a problem too.
     
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    The fundamental problem you’re missing here is, no team is going to offer their top 20 dman. Is Tampa going to offer Hedman? Any team wanting Karlsson is going to do so because they think they are a contender and Karlsson will put them over the top. Which means they will want to be adding to what they already have.

    So you’re looking at 3-4 substantially lesser pieces than what Karlsson is worth as offers from most teams.
     
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    I do love me some Erik Karlsson, but nah. The Flames don't really have the elite talent to afford to give up 2 core pieces in one go.

    Also would depend what Karlsson is signed for. 12 million is basically what Monahan and Hamilton are costing combined for the next while. If it's anywhere at or below an AAV of 10, well then I might have to think about it a little longer.

    Also also there's got to be some concern over his injury history. His playoff performance in 2016-17 was the stuff of legends but playing through an injury like that was medically a really bad idea.
     
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    With the hailstorm of Karlsson proposals that should be coming up until draft day I figure it’s a good time to bump this.

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    I wouldn't touch this. Karlsson or not, losing Monahan would crush our team. He's the best C we've had in a loooong time and we have nobody who can step up and fill his place. The upgrade from Hamilton to Karlsson is nice but the loss of Monahan would leave us as a much worse team. Easy no.
     
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    Boxscore you have done a tremendous job articulating your argument, especially considering its unconventional. Very well done.

    If I were Ottawa I would take it in a heartbeat, they are not in a position to do much better. the only team that could offer up the right assets would be Tampa in my opinion, something around Sergachev and Braydon Point perhaps.
     
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    I’d pare that down.

    An extended EK for NYIs two firsts (11, 12) and Josh Ho Sang.
     
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    Original deal is pretty fair, Hamilton for Karlsson straight up is comedy
     
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    Blues offer- Parayko, Kyrou, Sobotka, Winn 1st

    Sens- Karlsson(signed 7/$80.5) and Ryan
     
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    Don't like it from Calgary's POV.

    I think that Monahan + Hamilton at their cap hit is probably better than Karlsson (at the new cap hit) and seat filler (to top up the cap hit.)
     
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    Kalrsson is awesome but if I am Flames fan I would hate this deal.
     
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    Confused about said problems with Flames centre depth
     
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    This thread is about to get real interesting
     
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    lol, can you imagine going from Melnyk/Dorion to one of the most respect former players in the league?

    For the record I think your proposal is pretty good. Remove the conditional picks, if the Avs pull the tigger it's most likely only due to the fact that they've talked to Karlsson's agent and a deal has been verbally agreed upon.

    But TBH I'm curious if the Avs front office would even want Karlsson when you consider the cost to aquire him and extend him. I'm also not a big fan of taking Ryan on.
     
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    Whatever happens I believe Karlsson and Ryan are a package deal. Karlsson's talent speaks for itself but I think a healthy Ryan can still be a key contributor.
     
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    5 team proposal... Yes, I probably value some of these assets more or less than they’re actually worth...

    Trade Proposal
    -————-————-————
    - CAR gets......
    Mike Hoffman
    COL 2018 1st (16th)
    Phillipp Grubauer
    - CAR gives......
    Jeff Skinner
    CAR 2018 2nd (42nd)
    CAR 2019 2nd
    -————-————-————
    - COL gets......
    Erik Karlsson
    Jeff Skinnner
    - COL gives......
    OTT 2019 1st
    COL 2018 1st (16th)
    Tyson Barrie
    NSH 2018 2nd (58th)
    Vladislav Kamenev
    Nicolas Meloche
    -————-————-————
    - MTL gets......
    Matt Duchene
    Vladislav Kamenev
    CAR 2019 2nd
    - MTL gives......
    MTL 2018 1st (3rd)
    MTL 2019 3rd
    -————-————-————
    - OTT gets......
    OTT 2019 1st
    MTL 2019 3rd
    Ilya Samsonov
    MTL 2018 1st (3rd)
    NSH 2018 2nd (58th)
    Brook Orpik
    - OTT gives......
    Erik Karlsson
    Mike Hoffman
    Matt Duchene
    -————-————-————
    - WAS gets......
    Tyson Barrie
    CAR 2018 2nd (42nd)
    Nicolas Meloche
    - WAS gives......
    Phillipp Grubauer
    Ilya Samsonov
    Brook Orpik
    -————-————-————

    Let me know how bad an idea this is, lol
     
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    Thoughts? Laughable. A top 5 / 10 pick, a 50+ point D, a top D prospect, and have to take back Ryan? That's just flatly ridiculous.


    I'm not sure the Avs are going to pursue Karlsson at all. There wasn't a peep about them being interested at the deadline whatsoever, and Sakic is a very conservative GM who's been preaching patience and drafting + development. Not to mention the Avs will be winners the day the Sens move Karlsson (if they do) without having to do a thing. That makes it additionally quite tempting just to sit this one out.
     
  21. Liferleafer

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    That is really going to limit the teams they can deal with...thus lessen the return. Trading EK is going to be a defining moment for them, if you get max return by not adding Ryan, then you don't add Ryan.
     
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    That's to much
     
  23. SvechniCanesCup2019

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    Carolina is not trading for Mike Hoffman. Jordan Staal just went through what Karlsson went through at the same time. Canes are trying to build a positive organization culture. Keep Hoffman and his drama far, far away from Raleigh.
     
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    I feel like Sens fans would take this...
     
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    Which is fair if that’s the priority

    My thought on the matter have primarily been on seeing Carolina fans wanting more than just futures assets back, and Hoffman probably having the lowest trade value for his skill of most any player in the league at the moment
     
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