Rumor: Erik Karlsson Mega Thread IV - All rumors/speculation/proposals go here

[Liver King]

I mean it was reported pretty consistently last TDL that he wanted out and preferred it happen sooner rather than later, but OK.

To be fair that was mainly from Friedman at the deadline - who said a week ago that Karlsson wants to stay in Ottawa (but doesn't like the owner)

So basically he DOES want out if Melnyk stays - which seems likely

Gives us more reason to hate Melnyk!

 

[God King Fudge]

To be fair that was mainly from Friedman at the deadline - who said a week ago that Karlsson wants to stay in Ottawa (but doesn't like the owner)

So basically he DOES want out if Melnyk stays - which seems likely

Gives us more reason to hate Melnyk!

Yeah, and it's not like things don't change, either. He may have wanted out regardless at the TDL when all the stuff was heating up and had a change of heart in the meantime and is open to staying.

Just saying that it absolutely was being reported that he wanted out at the last TDL.

 

[Silencio]

I mean it was reported pretty consistently last TDL that he wanted out and preferred it happen sooner rather than later, but OK.

It was also reported pretty consistently early this month that a trade was finalized. Usually when a player requests a trade it gets leaked and then sooner or later officially confirmed by either the player, his agent, the GM or all 3 (as happened with Spezza and Healtey. We've had 6 months of radio silence in EK's case.

 

[CupsOverCash]

I think the "silence" can be explained by the summer break. Could also be explained as things are getting patched up between Ottawa and Karlsson. Its the end of July and players/gms dont need to be at camp for a while. I think we continue to see the radio silence until we get closer to camp.

 

[Sensung]

Yeah, and it's not like things don't change, either. He may have wanted out regardless at the TDL when all the stuff was heating up and had a change of heart in the meantime and is open to staying.

Just saying that it absolutely was being reported that he wanted out at the last TDL.

Reported and refuted.

 

[CupsOverCash]

What about the report about Ottawa giving permission to other teams to negotiate a contract with him? Havent seen that refuted.

 

[Sensung]

What about the report about Ottawa giving permission to other teams to negotiate a contract with him? Havent seen that refuted.

Nope that was accurate.

EK then refused to negotiate with anyone because he wants to stay in Ottawa.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Nope that was accurate.

EK then refused to negotiate with anyone because he wants to stay in Ottawa.

Havent seen this reported at all. Link?

 

[Sensung]

Havent seen this reported at all. Link?

Provide a link showing he did negotiate with other teams.

 

[Legion34]

Nope that was accurate.

EK then refused to negotiate with anyone because he wants to stay in Ottawa.

That would be awesome for them if true. But that’s a pretty big leap without a link

 

[God King Fudge]

Provide a link showing he did negotiate with other teams.

That's not how the burden of proof works, my dude. It was reported that he was given permission to discuss extensions. Then you swoop in and said he refused to negotiate because he wants to stay in Ottawa, which I've personally not seen reported anywhere. Then when someone asks you to provide proof of your claim, you turn and tell them to prove YOU wrong.

That's not how it works.

You made the claim that he refused to negotiate because he wants to stay in Ottawa, it's on you to produce the evidence that the claim is accurate, not on someone else to prove it's false.

 

[JoVel]

Provide a link showing he did negotiate with other teams.

You're the one who claimed that he refused to negotiate with others...

 

[CupsOverCash]

Provide a link showing he did negotiate with other teams.

I asked you first

 

[haveandare]

More likely than not he wants out, what on earth would be keeping him there? He's getting older and the team is getting worse and worse.

 

[God King Fudge]

More likely than not he wants out, what on earth would be keeping him there? He's getting older and the team is getting worse and worse.

I mean I can see it just being hard to move from the place you've been for years and years and years. I moved away from the place I was born, raised and lived for 23 years about 10 years ago and I still miss it.

Granted I'm not an athlete who makes millions a year, but these guys still have ties to where they are. Look at Demar Derozan in the NBA. Dude was in TOR his whole professional career and got traded to SA and was pretty devastated by it.

 

[BM14]

More likely than not he wants out, what on earth would be keeping him there? He's getting older and the team is getting worse and worse.

Not to shit on Sens fans, but this would appear to be the reality.

 

[CupsOverCash]

More likely than not he wants out, what on earth would be keeping him there? He's getting older and the team is getting worse and worse.

Hes got a year on his deal left and is one of the best d in the game. I think Ottawa is just doing what they think they can to maximize their return. They have time on their hands and can wait for the best deal. I think its a good idea they wait for now. Also who knows a sale could happen and he re-signs. I wouldnt wait too long though because I think its risky and the value could drop. Could go up at deadline but you just dont know for sure.

 

[JoVel]

I asked you first

- Erik Karlsson has been traded to the Leafs!
- Really? Link?
- You give me a link saying he hasn't.
- Ok, makes sense

Karlsson to the Leafs confirmed.

 

[Sensung]

Havent seen this reported at all. Link?

Friedman just reported that his preference is to stay in Ottawa.

No deal took place.

No evidence that he engaged in talks with any team.

No direct link, but my scenario meets the circumstances. And yours?

 

[CupsOverCash]

Friedman just reported that his preference is to stay in Ottawa.

No deal took place.

No evidence that he engaged in talks with any team.

No direct link, but my scenario meets the circumstances. And yours?

I just looked up Karlsson prefers to stay with Ottawa. Nothing. Where is the report? I havent seen anything that shows that he hasnt talked to anybody. No I dont have a link that says that he is talking to anybody but Im not expecting to see a report for every team he is negotiating with. I do expect to see a report saying he wont at all. Which you havent provided any link.

Here is a link from CBC.ca saying he was granted permission to talk to other teams.

Senators grant teams permission to negotiate extension with Karlsson: report | CBC Sports

 

[Sensung]

I just looked up Karlsson prefers to stay with Ottawa. Nothing. Where is the report? I havent seen anything that shows that he hasnt talked to anybody. No I dont have a link that says that he is talking to anybody but Im not expecting to see a report for every team he is negotiating with. I do expect to see a report saying he wont at all. Which you havent provided any link.

Here is a link from CBC.ca saying he was granted permission to talk to other teams.

Senators grant teams permission to negotiate extension with Karlsson: report | CBC Sports

Terrible with google or issues with the truth?

Rumor: Erik Karlsson Will Stay With The Ottawa Senators If Ownership Changes

"The belief from a lot of players is that, all things being equal...Erik Karlsson would like to be an Ottawa Senator. The problem is he doesn't want to be an Ottawa Senator under this situation," Friedman said.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Terrible with google or issues with the truth?

Rumor: Erik Karlsson Will Stay With The Ottawa Senators If Ownership Changes

Didn’t Friedman just say, less than a week ago, that Karlsson wanted out of Ottawa?

 

[CupsOverCash]

Terrible with google or issues with the truth?

Rumor: Erik Karlsson Will Stay With The Ottawa Senators If Ownership Changes

Thank you for finally providing a link. I couldnt find anything.

It still doesnt refute that he talked to teams. In fact it says he might be struggling to get a deal with TB at the moment. Might key word but I see a lot of "might" and "may" all over that article. This doesnt move us any closer to conclusions either way.

 

[Sensung]

Didn’t Friedman just say, less than a week ago, that Karlsson wanted out of Ottawa?

Nope

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

EK isn't signing with anyone until the Sens are sold (or next July 1st)

He is in the drivers seat and wants to stay in Ottawa.

What I agree with:
EK isn't signing with anyone until July 1st (after an EGO stroking series of meeting with teams to beg for his services).
He is in the drivers seat

What I don't agree with:
EK wants to stay in Ottawa