Entry Draft Thread: Part V

[Andrei79]

I think Im going to pay the 5$/month for those shift by shifts. My schedule is opening up just a bit for the next few weeks.

Which players do you guys like up to now ? Sleepers ?

 

[Vachon23]

OHL Prospects: Midseason Media/Scout Poll for 2019
Brock and co. still have Suzuki ahead of the rest out of the OHL. Far from a consensus though, which is telling.

My opinion of Harley as changed ! Alote of high praise

 

[Vachon23]

I think Im going to pay the 5$/month for those shift by shifts. My schedule is opening up just a bit for the next few weeks.

Which players do you guys like up to now ? Sleepers ?

I’m gonna go with the Q guys because they are them that I know the most

Alex Beaucage
Jordan Spence
Xavier Simoneau
Christopher Ortiz
Egor Serdyuk
Samuel Bolduc

 

[Mrb1p]

I think Im going to pay the 5$/month for those shift by shifts. My schedule is opening up just a bit for the next few weeks.

Which players do you guys like up to now ? Sleepers ?

What leagues ?

 

[Andrei79]

What leagues ?

Basically any but the Q and Junior A/high school.

 

[G0bias]

I think Im going to pay the 5$/month for those shift by shifts. My schedule is opening up just a bit for the next few weeks.

Which players do you guys like up to now ? Sleepers ?

Great thing with shift by shifts is you don't really need to have a different schedule, being 11 to 20 minute videos.

Puistola is killing it in Mestis, 15 goals in 20 games. Really liked his toolkit at the 5 Nations. I think there's a couple of his on there.

 

[Andrei79]

Great thing with shift by shifts is you don't really need to have a different schedule, being 11 to 20 minute videos.

Puistola is killing it in Mestis, 15 goals in 20 games. Really liked his toolkit at the 5 Nations. I think there's a couple of his on there.

I watched him earlier on the year. Liked him quite a bit too.

 

[Mrb1p]

Basically any but the Q.

Assuming you know of all the top 20-30ish guys

WHL: Tracey, Foote, Hamaliuk, Korzcak, Williams, Thomson, Lee, Gauthier, Zaitsev, Mutala, Newkirk

OHL: Robertson, Kolyachonok, Rees, Murray, Constantinou, Tomasino, Vukojevic, Mackay, Keppen

USNTDP: Beecher, Warren

USHL: Afanasayev, Brink, Matrosimone, Firstov, Johnson, Maccelli, Malone, Kallionkelli

Finland: Puistola, Saarela, Hugo has, Tanus, Nikkanen, Aaltonen, Tuomisto, Kokkonen, Honka, Tieksola, Raty, Loponen,

Sweden: Holmstrom, Muzik, Soderblom, Fagemo (OA), Grewe, Hoglander, Bjornfoot, Feuk, Johansson(2x) Soderblom, Gustaffson, Macklin, Wernblom, Henriksson

KHL/MHL: Spiridonov, Gutik, Nikolaaev, Mironov, Kniazev, Misyul, Pribilsky

Czech: Teply (Haven't caught any games but I think he's been mentionned a few times here.), Plasek, Psenicka, Bernovski

BCHL: Campbell, Berger, Blaisdell, Verboon, Rizzo

OJHL Ciccolini

Seider in Germany

Haven't scouted the AJHL but heard some good things about Olson

Bolded are some of my favorites.

 

[The Great Weal]

Although I haven't watched much, I really do like McMichael.

 

[G0bias]

Although I haven't watched much, I really do like McMichael.

He's great. McMichael rightfully gets alot of praise for his goalscoring but not enough is said about his talents as a passer. He's a pretty crafty playmaker.


streamable.com/tygfy

 

[NotProkofievian]

Kind of weird, but if we do miss the playoffs it'll likely be with us getting 90+ pts, while a team in the West will get in with 85pts, and we'll draft ahead of them.

I'm ok with a top 15 pick. Would love to win the lottery obviously.

I'm fine with that given that we drafted after NYR once after being eliminated by them in the playoffs.

 

[The Great Weal]

I'm fine with that given that we drafted after NYR once after being eliminated by them in the playoffs.

That rule was so stupid. So glad they changed that.

 

[NotProkofievian]

That rule was so stupid. So glad they changed that.

What's the rule this season?

 

[The Great Weal]

What's the rule this season?

Should be the same as last year no? Team thats ranked lowest in standings that loses in the 1st round then it's the 2nd lowest ranked team...etc

 

[The Great Weal]

Kind of weird, but if we do miss the playoffs it'll likely be with us getting 90+ pts, while a team in the West will get in with 85pts, and we'll draft ahead of them.

I'm ok with a top 15 pick. Would love to win the lottery obviously.

I could be wrong, but right now we would be drafting 20th while the Canes who are 1 point back would be drafting 15th(with the lottery chance). That's nuts.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Turcotte vs Newhook

Discuss.

 

[Hannibal]

Big guy with skills please.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

At this point, probably Turcotte. He's more complete and he's got a slighly better frame. To be perfectly honest though, I haven't seen enough of either to really have a strong opinion. The U18 next april will be telling for me, it's where I'll make my mind.

 

[Mrb1p]

Turcotte for me. Hes kind of a better Newhook. Both are really similar, Turcotte just does it better.

I think both probably end up as high end 2cs, but theres some 1C in Turcotte.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I guess I'm kind of skeptical of the entire USNTDP crop, including Hughes. Between the two of Newhook and Turcotte, I actually think Newhook has the more ''premiere player'' upside. I don't say 1C because he's absolute garbage on faceoffs and might actually end up better on the wing. But between the two I think the higher upside belongs to Newhook. That also speaks to the difference in these two players' games. Turcotte's game is way more straight forward. That has its drawbacks as I have already mentioned, but it also has its benefits. I'm pretty sure that what Turcotte is doing will work at the NHL level. Whereas there are those little bonehead plays that Newhook makes.

Why I'm skeptical of the NTDP guys is that I think they're all benefitting from playing with one another. Thats not to say that they're untalented, quite the contrary. But what I think might be happening is that they're all good players made to look better than they really are by playing with each other. That none of them is a world beater but they might look it because their team is wall to wall quality, whereas the average USHL team is a few good players and a bunch of NPCs.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I think Im going to pay the 5$/month for those shift by shifts. My schedule is opening up just a bit for the next few weeks.

Which players do you guys like up to now ? Sleepers ?

I want hot takes on the Swedish and Finnish defencemen.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

So we usually start the Early Bird Mock Draft the day after the trade deadline when picks are known and stable for awhile, since there aren't really trades til after the season at that point.

Are you guys still up for it? It's a week away.

I found 7 rounds long and draining, so I was considering reducing it to 5 rounds. Thoughts?

 

[Mrb1p]

I guess I'm kind of skeptical of the entire USNTDP crop, including Hughes. Between the two of Newhook and Turcotte, I actually think Newhook has the more ''premiere player'' upside. I don't say 1C because he's absolute garbage on faceoffs and might actually end up better on the wing. But between the two I think the higher upside belongs to Newhook. That also speaks to the difference in these two players' games. Turcotte's game is way more straight forward. That has its drawbacks as I have already mentioned, but it also has its benefits. I'm pretty sure that what Turcotte is doing will work at the NHL level. Whereas there are those little bonehead plays that Newhook makes.

Why I'm skeptical of the NTDP guys is that I think they're all benefitting from playing with one another. Thats not to say that they're untalented, quite the contrary. But what I think might be happening is that they're all good players made to look better than they really are by playing with each other. That none of them is a world beater but they might look it because their team is wall to wall quality, whereas the average USHL team is a few good players and a bunch of NPCs.

Turcotte doesn't play with Hughes/Zegras though and he plays the 2nd PP.

Really you're looking at a kid that has overall elite tools and a top notch motor. The only reason why I have him as a "possible" 2nd liner is that his goalscoring is suspect.

Top it all off with him having the best PPG on the team vs College player, he's good, man.

 

[Mrb1p]

So we usually start the Early Bird Mock Draft the day after the trade deadline when picks are known and stable for awhile, since there aren't really trades til after the season at that point.

Are you guys still up for it? It's a week away.

I found 7 rounds long and draining, so I was considering reducing it to 5 rounds. Thoughts?

Dibs

 

[NotProkofievian]

Turcotte doesn't play with Hughes/Zegras though and he plays the 2nd PP.

Really you're looking at a kid that has overall elite tools and a top notch motor. The only reason why I have him as a "possible" 2nd liner is that his goalscoring is suspect.

No, but he plays with Boldy and occasionally Caufield (usually Moynihan though). And Caufield plays with Zegras and Hughes. And they all play with York. Point being that he's always on the ice with top prospects. It's difficult to determine who is the straw stirring the drink, they're just all better than the competition and they always have the puck. The only exception on that team, IMO, is Hughes.

I'm not saying Turcotte's being carried, but doesn't it worry you that the only stand out on that team is the presumptive #1OA? How can you tell that these guys aren't just all late first talents playing together? For example, let's say you put Jamieson Rees on that team. What do you think he'd do and would he go from a late first to a top 10 talent all of a sudden?