Suntouchable13
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Ok, I am willing to cut him some slack for this season even if they don't make the playoffs. BUT, if next season is not going well either, he should be fired before Christmas.
So when have most of his injuries occured? Late year or early/mid? High or low usage periods? Seems like it was early/mid year from memory before long term fatigue would set in and I don't remember it being high usage times.Fatigue and injury risk are pretty established principles in sport/muscle/health/exercise science.
You said Dubas seeks out puck control in his deals.
He’s put a player on the roster who was ranked 816 in that category.
Ceci was not and is not a puck controller.
Further, Dubas’ job is to make the D better. He has not made the D better by bringing in Ceci.
He can’t get good players without a trade? Boo f’ing hoo. That’s his job. Find the players that will fit. Get them.
That’s why he wears this per the OP.
You are making yourself into a pretzel here.
Agreed, should have kept Marleau and the 1st and let Mitch rot. Kind of reminds me of Burkie misjudging the landscape and signing Komi, Bauchemin and trading for Kessel.
Hey Kyle... maybe try and hire Boudreau as an Assistant Coach, in charge of the defensive side of the game??
So youd be legitimately happier if Marner say went the entire season unsigned?
And youre ignoring the reality that Ceci wasnt a normal "hockey" trade.
When youre trading a garbage asset like Zaitsev you have to take a negative one in return, or give up something of value to dump it (lile with the Marleau trade).
The main value in the Ceci aquistion was the long term capspace.
Ceci was signed beacuse the Leafs essentially had to :notice it was a 1 year deal that allows the Leafs to walk away from the player July 1st.
If the Leafs resign Ceci again youd have a point. But we both know they wont.
There is no ignoring the reason for the trade.
But thank you for highlighting the difference between Lou and Dubas.
If Lou got a bike back for spare parts... he would park it in the garage. Remove the cap hit and ice a better player. Greening. Michalek. Laich.
It appears if Dubas gets a bike back for spare parts ... he rides it 20 mins a game in the show.
I guess we’ve concluded experience matters.
Lou's "experience" crested the Zaitsev problem to begin with....
Who could have guessed giving a 7 year contract to a rookie coming off a year with production totals inflated by secondary assists on the PP would have been a bad idea...
The Leafs didnt have a depth D man ready to step in depth D man so they couldnt waive Ceci right away. And now they have with a more developed Liljgren
I don't even know why Lou rushed to give Zaitsev 7 years because wasn't he still going to be an RFA?Lou's "experience" crested the Zaitsev problem to begin with....
Who could have guessed giving a 7 year contract to a rookie coming off a year with production totals inflated by secondary assists on the PP would have been a bad idea...
The Leafs didnt have a depth D man ready to step in depth D man so they couldnt waive Ceci right away. And now they have with a more developed Liljgren
Lou's worst contracts he gave out was to Marleau and Zaitsev.I’m not sure going down the contract road is going to be your best Dubas defence argument.
Liljegren?
Oh yeah... the D that Lou drafted. He’s ready?
That’s nice.
It’s nice to see Dubas achieving Nonis’ defensive prowess ranking. Nonis was obviously known for his defensively stingy and successful teams.
thought he was going to be ufa?I don't even know why Lou rushed to give Zaitsev 7 years because wasn't he still going to be an RFA?
The only way this is true is if you think Andersen is below starting goaltender quality, contrary to basically his entire career until this year.In case you don't get it. it's not the players' fault they're not capable of playing good enough, it's the fault of the guy that put them in that position in the first place..
Lou's worst contracts he gave out was to Marleau and Zaitsev.
As for him being the GM when they drafted Liljegren I thought Mark Hunter gets the credit for selecting him.
McBackup was not a signing by Lou.In 2017-18... the last time he had a capable back up... was probably the best case scenario for the team. I believe that was Lou's signing wasn't it? Yes. I guess it was.
No he doesn't.Dubas has the reputation of taking good defensive teams and turning them into tire fires.
The wildcard spot is not "assured to the Metro division" at all.With the WC spot all but assured to the Metro Division
Lol, this is essentially bashing him for getting valuable, useful assets back for his garbage instead of more garbage.Remove the cap hit and ice a better player. Greening. Michalek. Laich.
It appears if Dubas gets a broken bike back for spare parts ... he rides it 20 mins a game in the show.
Dubas' contract signing history is way better than Lou's.I’m not sure going down the contract road is going to be your best Dubas defence argument.
Yeah, only one year later than Sandin, who Dubas drafted later in the draft.Liljegren? Oh yeah... the D that Lou drafted. He’s ready?
In a cap system money needs to be allocated in the best way to win. Marner is fabulous. No question. However, to sign Tavares meant monies needed to be reallocated. JT got money that should have gone to MMI think this is the only team in the league where fans say stupid **** like this. "Oh, let's trade our best PPG winger to keep the third line center, because the PPG winger will bring in a better defenseman!"
Marner got money that he had earned, Tavares got money he had earned, and the Leafs are better off for having both of them.JT got money that should have gone to MM
And youre ignoring the reality that Ceci wasnt a normal "hockey" trade.
When youre trading a garbage asset like Zaitsev you have to take a negative one in return, or give up something of value to dump it (lile with the Marleau trade).
The main value in the Ceci aquistion was the long term capspace.
Ceci was signed beacuse the Leafs essentially had to :notice it was a 1 year deal that allows the Leafs to walk away from the player July 1st.
If the Leafs resign Ceci again youd have a point. But we both know they wont.
It's a good attempt at what you are attempting
He does get injured which is why the team felt it best to reduce his ice time to prevent fatigue and injury risk. Little did they know they would have a Coach that couldn't see the big picture.
Let's talk about Andersen's performance and team results though since you brought it up.
In 2017-18... the last time he had a capable back up... was probably the best case scenario for the team. I believe that was Lou's signing wasn't it? Yes. I guess it was.
Lou assembled a tandem that combined for a .917 save percentage that year. Absolutely stunning. And 4th overall in the NHL in that statistic. If I'm not mistaken, set a franchise record for points in a single season.
I don't think anyone would have predicted that Dubas would have taken that 4th overall team and drop 17 places to 21st overall just a season and a half later with a .900 save percentage.
I mean, you just wouldn't expect it. That's quite a large drop. It would have been laughable to even think of it as a possibility but it just goes to show you just never know what you had until it's gone.
In fairness to Dubas, I guess Lou just knows how to build defensive successes. His Islanders are 7th overall in save percentage with a .912 this year and his reputation in that category really is outstanding.
Dubas has the reputation of taking good defensive teams and turning them into tire fires. It's an unfair moniker from my perspective but we have to go where the facts lead I suppose.
Hunter's first draft with the Leafs was in 2015 when he was in charge of who they selected. So it was 1 draft with him before Lou arrived and Huner was still in charge of who they selected in 2016 and 2017.Hunter got credit for selections when Lou wasn't here. Dubas was told to focus on trades and contracts. Hunter was told to focus on the draft.
Clearly though you are right... Hunter had some input.
McBackup was not a signing by Lou.
No he doesn't.
The wildcard spot is not "assured to the Metro division" at all.
Lol, this is essentially bashing him for getting valuable, useful assets back for his garbage instead of more garbage.
Dubas' contract signing history is way better than Lou's.
Yeah, only one year later than Sandin, who Dubas drafted later in the draft.
Be interesting to see where this team would be if Andersen was at his normal level.
There is no ignoring the reason for the trade.
But thank you for highlighting the difference between Lou and Dubas.
If Lou got a broken bike back for spare parts... he would park it in the garage. Remove the cap hit and ice a better player. Greening. Michalek. Laich.
It appears if Dubas gets a broken bike back for spare parts ... he rides it 20 mins a game in the show. Maybe he forgot where the garage was.
I guess we’ve concluded experience matters.
Is he the best defenseman on the planet? No.Ceci is not a valuable asset.
Actually, they are 26th, and that's due primarily to goaltending, not Ceci.27th in GA.