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Dubas chose to continue with the guy who had put up 3 straight years in a row at above average starter level.Hey... uh... sparky... who chose the goalies?
Dubas chose to continue with the guy who had put up 3 straight years in a row at above average starter level.Hey... uh... sparky... who chose the goalies?
Feel like I'm going to regret jumping in, but here goes
Seems obvious you made a mistake here and just don't want to admit it. Lou acquired Mac off waivers after his option failed. It wasn't a "signing", but it did work out.
It's okay to say that, no need to dance around your error, just say it wasn't a signing and move on.
Lou actually did this with Nylander, some teams have done it to leverage the second contract. I doubt it'll matter much either way with a player like Sandin who won't get top PP time on his ELC with Rielly around.
2- the injury triggered Campbell's acquisition. While not a starter in my eyes, he may take us through Fred's poor play.
I mean team analysts. You mean team analysts don't you?Analysts looked at other goalies to determine workload, not Fred specifically. As we know, not every goalie or human is the same.
Because he's a RD and Sandin is left? Or like Nylander, the plan changes when you have a good season with the Marlies?If we were going to burn a year of Sandin... why start Ceci? 816 of 906 in CF% on a "possession" team.
We've heard he was in the market, but that seemed to be the last straw.That's sad but true.... sorry Metallica. If the only thing that motivated Dubas to change goaltending was an injury to Freddy then wow... just wow.
Honestly I think there has been pressure from the outside on this one. He's always been a 60+ start goalie here under both GMs, but then it changes this year? I don't expect "new numbers" came in or new info, but there's been growing discussion about low workload starters winning cups in the hockey community. The team could have also just been looking to change it up given he imploded in another game 7.I mean team analysts. You mean team analysts don't you?
When Freddy says they discussed it... we can assume he discussed his starts with Team Doctors, Coaches, GM, Stats guys and officials within the club.
Not that he was getting his info from Elliot Freedman.
Dubas chose to continue with the guy who had put up 3 straight years in a row at above average starter level.
That overuse of muscles leads to fatigue and increased risk of injury.
Pressure from the outside influenced a decision by coach and GM.Well which is it... pressure from outside or a decision by coach and GM?
okay I thought Andersen’s injury was due to getting hit twice in the Panthers game.
I didn’t know he struggled in October because Dubas was going to overuse him in the future.
I didn’t know that Andersen allowed 14 goals in his first 4 starts because he was going to be overused later on in the season. I didn’t know that.
I didn’t know that Andersen was going to be used like many other #1 goalies in this league playing a strong majority of games.
I didn’t know there’s no other goalie to play 40 or more games this season. (There’s 10 more)
Pressure from the outside influenced a decision by coach and GM.
Wonder if it's the wrong one and they should have kept his starts closer to the 66 pace like the Lou days.
would ultimately be the coaches decision, but I think our GM discusses issues with people in the hockey community. I don't expect Dangle is on speed dial, but I think there are people around the league thinking less is more with starts.So the GM is influenced by social media and talk show hosts?
You really want to get in to this petty garbage?So in fairness to Dubas... maybe I'm just out of touch with the new way of managing a hockey team where you take a poll and base your decision on what's popular and not from a position of confidence in terms of what's right.
Think it speaks more to the "plan" of Lou to have Mac backup when Enroth was the first choice.Let me understand something.....McBackup was claimed off of waivers by the GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, who at the time was Lou Lamoriello.....but a couple of posters are arguing that because the term "signing" was used instead of "claimed", that Lamoriello should not be given credit for acquiring him?
Let me understand something.....McBackup was claimed off of waivers by the GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, who at the time was Lou Lamoriello.....but a couple of posters are arguing that because the term "signing" was used instead of "claimed", that Lamoriello should not be given credit for acquiring him?
Yep.
They believe something happened. It was a good move but doesn't rise to the level of signing.
No circles buddy.
Totally agree Zaitsev had to go. Mainly because he wanted to go.
Ceci is not away from the roster. He's injured but in his last 5 games he's averaged over 17 mins a game.
Dubas screwed the back up situation and that led to overuse of Andersen and increased risk of injury. The position we are in is totally on Dubas and his decisions.
(Because I like you... here is a Debate Tip: stop focusing on GA. This is absolutely not a Dubas strength. If you want a good counter... talk about the offense which is absolutely excellent and one of the best we have had in decades... though not totally Dubas' doing... it's been enhanced since he got control)
Well I read the transcript, it was a perfect acquisition whatever it's called
No, somebody came in, claimed that McBackup was signed by Lou, and then instead of simply admitting their mistake when proven wrong, has tried to twist claiming off waivers into being the same thing as signing. Accuracy is important.Let me understand something.....McBackup was claimed off of waivers by the GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, who at the time was Lou Lamoriello.....but a couple of posters are arguing that because the term "signing" was used instead of "claimed", that Lamoriello should not be given credit for acquiring him?
I don't understand how people can blame Dubas at this point. He got a back up. Added bottom 6 grit. Brought in a coach that has turned the top 6 in to the best offence in the league since the coaching change (seriously, Matthews and Marner have been pacing for over 100 points since the switch), Nylander is torching the league compared to last season. And doing this without our third best winger, number 1 D and the worst statistical goaltending in the league since December. With even above average goaltending we would probably be right on Boston's tail right now. I am not worried in the slightest. This teams ceiling is effing huge.
No, somebody came in, claimed that McBackup was signed by Lou, and then instead of simply admitting their mistake when proven wrong, has tried to twist claiming off waivers into being the same thing as signing. Accuracy is important.
Brought in a coach that has turned the top 6 in to the best offence in the league since the coaching change (seriously, Matthews and Marner have been pacing for over 100 points since the switch)..