Not with a torn or tear meniscus. One could even live a normal life (doing sport and everything) without the meniscus, which is what the doctors do when the torn is too profound (taking it out). The only thing you have to do then is muscle your upper and lower leg to replace the "protection effect" the meniscus had on the joint. Which isn't a big problem for a pro athlete.
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Not with a torn or tear meniscus. One could even live a normal life (doing sport and everything) without the meniscus, which is what the doctors do when the torn is too profound (taking it out). The only thing you have to do then is muscle your upper and lower leg to replace the "protection effect" the meniscus had on the joint. Which isn't a big problem for a pro athlete.
It is not a problem if it is a torn meniscus. It is just a matter of pain, so it's up to the player.
FerrisRox
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It sounds like, in your case, the tear of your meniscus resulted in the cartridge actually shifting. If you were given a "choice" of surgery or not, that likely means the doctor felt that surgery could aid in the healing by shifting the torn pieces back together, or trimming away shredded part(s) of the cartridge. If your knee ultimately "jammed" down the road, i suspect you had part of that damaged cartilage get into the joint itself, leading to a "lock." If Price's injury were like yours, I'm certain he would have already gone under the knife.
I was told that surgery would be of no help and that all I required was rest and keeping weight off of the knee. I used crutches for a couple of weeks and inserts in my shoe to better protect the knee while it healed as well as a knee brace that stimulated blood flow to the affected area. My doctor told me that 80 percent of meniscus tears heal one hundred percent on their own, some require a minor scope and fewer yet require actual surgery.
The Kreider incident is when his knee injury first occurred and it's still causing issues after all this time. He might be fine for the playoffs but what about the future? I want him to be as healthy as possible for as long as possible. I know from personal experience that knee injuries are a pain in the ass and usually the best course of action is to nip it in the bud ASAP.
I obviously hope for his sake that he'll be able to fully recover without surgery.
Look at it this way: If Kreider was ground-zero for this condition, Price followed the recovery protocol well enough to go on to have one of the best seasons ever for a goalie. Let him take the same careful course now and come back playing just as well!
My knee "locked" from time to time, but I was always able to unjammed it. What I've been told by my doctor is that parts of the meniscus, depending on the way/angle/etc I was bending, were entering in the joint to "lock" it, exactly like you describe, but without the cartilage part. Then by "moving" and "twisting" my knee in a certain manner, I was able to unjammed it in 5 sec. to 1 min.
They always told me that beside pain or permanent jamming, I could have lived a normal life. But they never told me it could heal with time. Then it reaches a point where the jamming were too regular and painfull, then I had 75% of my meniscus cut and taken off. After 3 months at 2 rehab sessions/week, I was back on the field.
FerrisRox
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I highly doubt the injury that Price sustained from the Krieder incident involved his meniscus. I strongly suspect he would have been back that series if it was.
FerrisRox
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I just saying "cartlidge" as another word for meniscus, cause that's what it is.
Glad to hear you're back on your feet and back on the field.
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I didn't know it meant the same thing since in french, "Menisque" and "Cartilage" are 2 different things.
Thanks for your empathy.
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FerrisRox
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Sometimes I wonder if people forget that this a message board.. you know.. a place where people share their opinions and stuff? Should everyone who isn't a medical expert just keep quiet on this subject? Just like everyone who isn't a hockey expert, should they just stop posting on HF all together?
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The fact that he is out of action again doesn't necessarily mean that anything "wrong" was decided the first time. Medical science is often inexact, and hindsight is 20-20.
About a decade ago I tore miniscus in my right knee while playing pickup sports. An MRI confirmed the tear. The orthopedic surgeon told me he could repair it, but he explained that surgery on a torn miniscus involves removing the torn part and trimming back where the tear had frayed. There was no clear choice as to the best route to go, but he said "you want to keep as much miniscus as you have" as I get older. Long story, but while waiting for surgery I read as much as I could find about miniscus tears and concluded that long-term there was no evidence that surgery would be any better for me than the physiotherapy I had been getting. So given that surgery always involves some risk, when my spot finally came up for surgery I declined it. Today I'm sure I made the right choice. I recognize that I might have decided differently when presented with the option of surgery if I had then been an elite athlete in the prime of my career. Nevertheless, my own experiences make it easy for me to imagine that Carey's situation is full of uncertainty, and I also find it easy to imagine why they are not (yet) resorting to surgery.
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That's a great point.
But there's a way to express your thoughts without sounding like everyone but yourself is an idiot.
For example...
If you are upset that Price re-injured himself after an absence of 3 weeks you can go about it 3 different ways...
1. OMG Management are idiots for rushing Price.
Problem with this is that you assume way too many things without knowing half of the information. You don't know the actual process they used, the expert medical opinions, the actual injury Price has.. You're basically firing rounds in the dark like a moron.
2. If Price returned and re-injured himself, something must have gone wrong
It's already a much better position, where you're questioning the entire process and leaving some room for error. But it's still not quite right. Perhaps everyone took the right decision with the info they had but **** happened, or it was part of the risk they were willing to take given the information they had.
3. I don't understand why our management allowed Price to return so soon given that he re-injured himself
You're saying you don't understand why something happened. It shows humility, while getting your point accross that you don't see their process as logical. But you know you don't have all the info, so maybe you're just missing a part of the puzzle.
There is a way to say something. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I am any better than anyone, but too often on these boards people have authoritative views on things and are 100% convinced they know better than people who have 10 times the information they have. It's such an unwise approach to anything in life. Knowing your limitation is important. And that certitude some posters have is 90% of the frustration I have reading posts on here.
Crosby was misdiagnosed big time just a few years ago. Do not underestimate how short-sighted these guys can be.
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The Globe and Mail has a good article today on how the Habs might do without Carey Price...
Cost of losing Carey Price proving to be one the Canadiens can afford
Cost of losing Carey Price proving to be one the Canadiens can afford
I'm actually a MD. I'm sure that if I were to give my opinion on something, someone here would call me an uneducated idiot.
BTW, one thing I could say is... If you haven't seen the patient, talked to him and examined him and if necessary looked at the test that were done; you cannot make a diagnosis and therefore establish a prognosis. As simple as that. Speculating on these things is useless.
Basically three posters on this page have given a "medical" opinion.
All have given useful, and in my eyes largely correct, information.
Although in one case it's anecdotal, and therefore may relate only to
that specific case. Is this really something to complain about ?
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I agree with both of you. Speculating may by useless when treating
a patient. But it is obviously what many users come to these boards
for. So in this context it should be OK.
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I've noticed this two and found that it's best to not take things too personally around here, and don't feed the trolls. Some people just have strong views, which is fine, but others are just looking to cause an argument.
With regards to Price's injury, I can't agree with putting the blame on the doctors (or caring about putting the blame on something for that matter). These aren't your fresh out of school MD's. These are highly skilled, and intelligible specialists who are team doctors because they are the best in their field. Sometimes injuries aggravate themselves repeatedly, sometimes they heal fine. Unfortunately for Price, this was the former. Fortunately for the team, and us, Bergevin has acquired the assets to weather the storm. Albeit I doubt he was thinking Condon was going to step into the NHL as fast as he did, but it doesn't change the fact that he brought him in.
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