We'd be looking for someone to start 5 games presuming Price is out 7 weeks. Seriously guys? Just let Tokarski start the 5 games. If he loses all 5, well he loses all 5.
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SergeConstantin74
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He won't have to, he'll be backup to Condon.
Let's be real, there are no cheap goalies available better than Condon. We only need someone to fill in as a backup for 3-4 games.
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So 6 weeks, we're looking at about 18 games. He might be ready for mid-January. That's about one-fifth of a season a nice chunk of time to miss.
As long as the Habs go at least .500, we should be okay. Something like, 6-6-6 is fine. Pick up a point here and there.
Then go on a run when Price is back and everyone is healthy.
No panic....yet.
As long as the Habs go at least .500, we should be okay. Something like, 6-6-6 is fine. Pick up a point here and there.
Then go on a run when Price is back and everyone is healthy.
No panic....yet.
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If they don't land that quality vet to back up Price, it'll probably be contingent on how well Condon handles things during the next 6 weeks or so. If Condo does well, his experience will be invaluable for the playoffs, should he again be needed. So this is a good test to see what we have on hand, whether Condon could use more seasoning or whether he's one of those players who can still carry the load despite the lack of NHL experience.
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I should have known he had a nugget, as soon as they gave him advance publicity on the "announcement" and he started to get jittery in his AC seat, probably peed in his pants and shot out Price's layoff with that raspy, high-pitched voice of his.
I wonder how he got the info. Probably used the same people who took Saku Koivu's pic in a hospital gown a few years ago.
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Because it's Fucale's 1st season. And I believe that IF he ever plays in the NHL...it will be a long road. You could totally have him play 2nd during his 1st year, and then slowly have him take the 1st goalie job.
As far as getting goalies for cheap, of course. I won't even give up Tinordi for a 3rd goalie. You could give up a mid-round pick for all I care. Don't give up the world for sure.....but you do have to be quite solid in net, whether it's to help out Condon for those 6 weeks, whether it's too be a great goalie for the Caps or whether the injury is there ALL YEAR LONG and you most definatey need a good backup to help Condon when the going will get tougher.
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He is washed up as a #1 goalie in the NHL. Actually, chances are he never was a #1 goalie. Backup NHL goalie? Yeah, there are surely and most definately WAY better options. Great that I'm not even considering for that job either. I'M considering him for the #3 job. And he has a very good AHL season....it tells me he'd be a good #3 option and will most definately help the Caps, way more than Tokarski would when Price will be back and he'll go back being the #1 goalie for the Caps.
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With Price on LTIR, his 6.5K cap hit won't be counting against the team's salary cap.
How much cap savings this will create until Price returns? Is it merely proportional in respect of the number of days he's on the LTIR or is it based on the number of games missed while on LTIR?
How much cap savings this will create until Price returns? Is it merely proportional in respect of the number of days he's on the LTIR or is it based on the number of games missed while on LTIR?
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They need a goalie. Price will not be ready by mid-January because it's AT LEAST six weeks. Plus practice time plus some reconditionning and getting back to form. Not before February.
Sorry, but Bergevin will need to make a trade eventually for an experienced goalie. Better early than late, when teams will be waiting even more for him.
Oh! And this puts an end to all the talk about being best in the East.
Just hope Carey regains his form in time for playoffs. Because if not, then it would be a wasted season in the open window for a cup.
Sorry, but Bergevin will need to make a trade eventually for an experienced goalie. Better early than late, when teams will be waiting even more for him.
Oh! And this puts an end to all the talk about being best in the East.
Just hope Carey regains his form in time for playoffs. Because if not, then it would be a wasted season in the open window for a cup.
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If a trade happens, don't you think they'll want to first wait and see how Condon performs? In February, an experienced goalie can more easily be had, with so many teams out of contention or having given up on the current season.
"Best in the East" is whoever represents the conference in the SCF. Habs are the best right now, and will be even if our stats take a hit while Price is out. Amazing that this happened immediately after an entire year of hearing "The team is nothing but Price". A few months later and the team is proving how damn good they really are. The only thing left is a healthy Carey Price by February -- even March if necessary -- who's strong and ready for April. Once he's back and 100%, we could beat anyone.
If Bergevin waits until the trade deadline, it means Price's condition is worse than expected. As things currently stand, the goalie bridge is between now and February.
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So, you're suggesting it'll be a balancing act between Price's progress vs. Condon's performance at given points between now and February?
I would say it's Price's progress plus Condon's performance plus market availability.
At least, salary cap wouldn't be an issue, especially given the extra savings realized by Price's salary not counting against the cap during his absence, as I understand it.
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We don't know how many games it will be, as we don't know if Condon can handle being the starter or not. It's a gamble one way or the other. We could do nothing and maybe Condon does fine and Tok is ok. Or we could do nothing and Condon struggles at times with Tok not helping matters. It's a tough spot no matter what as we don't have much cap space and need to upgrade the forward position but we also want home ice in the playoffs and losing that would really suck when this team has been so impressive at times.
After watching the few starts by Tok in the AHL, I hope he doesn't see any games.
It's impossible for us to know who's available and who isn't. We also don't know how long since they just said at least 6 weeks and we don't know how many games Condon would get as if he struggles then we have a problem.
I would think that's what they will do but the problem is they will likely have to pay more if they ride Condon and he falls apart. Teams would be stupid not to make us pay up more since they know we will be in a tougher spot then we are now at the top of the league and Condon playing well.
The problem with this as a test for Condon is if he fails and the impact it has on our playoff drive.
As I recall you only get to go over the cap while they are on LTIR, once they are back you have to get back under. Currently the Habs have 1,223,374 in projected cap space.
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I don't know if he had sources but anyone could have told you it was at least 4 weeks (that's what he said).
At best, it was the same thing as last time, and last time took 3 weeks. They weren't gonna take any chances this time and make it longer.
So it was like those fortune tellers who read off of you. Just use logic and you can predict the future too.
In reality, he was wrong because MB only knew about the diagnosis on sunday. Doubtful he knew before MB....
When in doubt.. Francois Gagnon is always wrong.. and willing to make **** up (Kovalev tape anyone?).
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You keep saying we need to make a move for a goalie. You say it 2 times in that post. But nowhere in the post do you explain why need a goalie so bad. The length of the absence isn't an actual argument why we need to make a trade for a goalie.
They say Price will be gone for 6 weeks... so I assume that this includes the practice time to get back into game shape. They're not idiots. They will not have sugar coated this. If anything they'll have put a double security factor on that recovery time to make sure they get everyone ready for that type of long term absence and make sure Price takes his time.
No, it's 6 weeks, not 8 weeks. And there are no good reasons to acquire a goalie. MB said he wouldn't and logically speaking there are no reasons to. If we were hanging in tight for a playoffs spot it would be a different story but we got a huge padding to get us through this mess.
And I bet you that we play above .500 hockey with Condon+Toker. Not worried in the least.
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Actually, we have a pretty good idea how many games it will be, 20. 20 games corresponds with the time line the team has offered of "at least six weeks." We also know that teams always err on the side of caution when offering injury time lines so as not to apply pressure to a player if he doesn't meet a projected return date.
We know what we've seen so far which is steady efforts and giving his team a chance to win each game he's played.
Actually, no, it's not a tough spot no matter what. The version where the Canadiens do nothing, Condon does fine and Tok is okay is clearly not a tough spot.
With Price on IR and Gallagher on IR, both for over a month, the Canadiens free up some cap space and they already have some flexibility in that regard.
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No we don't really have a good idea, who's to say he won't get reinjured, who's to say it won't take longer to heal?
Condon has struggled at times with some soft goals, if that repeats then we have a problem, if not then great.
I believe he has yes. I don't think his doctors will let him come back early though even if he's 100%. Also no matter how good or bad the habs are doing it should not factor into when he comes back.
Anyone saying we need another goalie absolutely needs to relax. Do I think maybe they should look into it if Condon struggles? Yes. Its just way too early to tell and Condon hasn't given management any reason whatsoever to look into another goalie.
For those who say we need a better backup than Tokarski at the moment should look at things more realistically. Toker has been putrid this year but he won't start many games. It can only get better for him.
Take a breath guys and realize how lucky we are to have Condon and that we are 1st place. If we falter at all we will still be in a nice spot when Price comes back. This team is too good not to be.
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