DRW: Summer 2019 Prospect Ranking #1

[Shaman464]

Lots of picks that are highly regarded top 5 range players become solid, but not exceptional players. Now whether that's a waste or not, maybe so, but look over the drafts and the list is littered with Mika Zibanejad's and Nino Niederreiter's.

Mika Zibanejad is coming off a season where he had numbers comparable (but a little worse) to Larkin. A near ppg center with size isn't a bad pick up at that position. And Niederreiter is a puzzle, I blame the Islander's bad juju.

 

[Bench]

Mika Zibanejad is coming off a season where he had numbers comparable (but a little worse) to Larkin. A near ppg center with size isn't a bad pick up at that position. And Niederreiter is a puzzle, I blame the Islander's bad juju.

There's a dozen other examples I could give you. It's a real grab bag after the first couple picks. If you're expecting a surefire star at #6, you're in for some hurt. You can probably anticipate a very good player.

My regret is the Wings didn't take Quinn Hughes, honestly.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Zadina. Add Barton.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Will do later tonight.

Thank you for taking this on. I have stuff at the end of this month that would really conflict with it was a part of why I haven't wanted to start this project.

As a general note, I get that we decide these fast. I also understand putting up #2 later tonight, zero issues. However, if we could give these a full day, I know a few years back I had three days and it took too long, but I want at least a day so all of our members can have a discussion and offer their adds. We have a far flung fan-base and one of the better European fan-bases in my opinion, so I think a day is pretty fair so that everyone can have some input. It is still a pretty long off-season, I understand wanting to vote for #2 but the crowd that immediately needs to move on might need to calm down a bit from time to time. Mid-September isn't that close, we don't need to rush through our prospect rankings in a week in my opinion.

If it shapes up another way I get it, but to start at least I would like at least 24 hours between polls.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Zadina. Add Barton.

I think Barton is my current college obsession now that Pearson is in Grand Rapids.

 

[Frk It]

I think Barton is my current college obsession now that Pearson is in Grand Rapids.

Between Mastrosimone, Phillips, and Kotkansalo... going to have to try to watch some BU.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Between Mastrosimone, Phillips, and Kotkansalo... going to have to try to watch some BU.

Kontkansalo is a very good player. I hope he gets a contract at the end of this year. He to me is a lot like Nemeth in terms of why we just signed that guy. Good skater, heavy player with a decent first pass. He didn't have the best year last year, but I still believe he can earn a contract.

Barton's path got a bit busier on the right side, but I like his tool box. He is a nice prospect to have marinating. That is the one thing if we can hit on Barton, Lindstrom, Kontkansalo we are starting to get an interesting group. We talk a lot about the higher draft pick guys and Lindstrom would be in that picture, but we are going to need some luck on a few lower round guys, it would be nice if lady luck smiled on one of these project D-man. I like the tools on some of them, Barton and Regula I thought both had excellent post-draft seasons.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I think Barton is my current college obsession now that Pearson is in Grand Rapids.

He's my new Jensen.

Still have hope for Holway.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Thank you for taking this on. I have stuff at the end of this month that would really conflict with it was a part of why I haven't wanted to start this project.

As a general note, I get that we decide these fast. I also understand putting up #2 later tonight, zero issues. However, if we could give these a full day, I know a few years back I had three days and it took too long, but I want at least a day so all of our members can have a discussion and offer their adds. We have a far flung fan-base and one of the better European fan-bases in my opinion, so I think a day is pretty fair so that everyone can have some input. It is still a pretty long off-season, I understand wanting to vote for #2 but the crowd that immediately needs to move on might need to calm down a bit from time to time. Mid-September isn't that close, we don't need to rush through our prospect rankings in a week in my opinion.

If it shapes up another way I get it, but to start at least I would like at least 24 hours between polls.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I posted the first one around 3 am EST, give or take, my general thought was 48 hours between polls, but this one seems MOSTLY tidied up, so I'll cut it a day short.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Yeah, that's what I figured. I posted the first one around 3 am EST, give or take, my general thought was 48 hours between polls, but this one seems MOSTLY tidied up, so I'll cut it a day short.

Thanks again for doing this, 48 is ideal, but certainly understand putting up 2 a little early.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

My regret is the Wings didn't take Quinn Hughes, honestly.

Just can’t dwell on that. I also really wanted Hughes, but Zadina at 6 was just too good not too pass up. It might bite us in the ass, but let’s just keep our fingers crossed.

 

[Martinez]

I think Barton is my current college obsession now that Pearson is in Grand Rapids.

I didn’t watch Barton but I remember this article spoke very highly of him (from January) https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/781348/2019/01/23/red-wings-prospect-report-seth-barton-and-kasper-kotkansalo/?amp

 

[Leibinger6]

Is Taro Hirose a prospect? If so he 100% is the best player currently in this list of players and I wouldn’t be surprised if he remained the best in ~5 years. 7 pts in his first 10 NHL games, and looked great in development camp. People underestimate what a steal he really was as an undrafted signing.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Is Taro Hirose a prospect? If so he 100% is the best player currently in this list of players and I wouldn’t be surprised if he remained the best in ~5 years. 7 pts in his first 10 NHL games, and looked great in development camp. People underestimate what a steal he really was as an undrafted signing.

He only played 10 games, so I think that still constitutes a prospect.

 

[Gniwder]

Is Taro Hirose a prospect? If so he 100% is the best player currently in this list of players and I wouldn’t be surprised if he remained the best in ~5 years. 7 pts in his first 10 NHL games, and looked great in development camp. People underestimate what a steal he really was as an undrafted signing.

I voted for Taco, considering he will more than likely spend the season in the NHL while the rest are still unknown prospects. He'll be the only one not on the list next year.

I think Veleno has the higher potential than Zadina (in terms of importance to the team) and not sure how to rate Seider until I see him play.

 

[Mlotek]

Thank you for taking this on. I have stuff at the end of this month that would really conflict with it was a part of why I haven't wanted to start this project.

As a general note, I get that we decide these fast. I also understand putting up #2 later tonight, zero issues. However, if we could give these a full day, I know a few years back I had three days and it took too long, but I want at least a day so all of our members can have a discussion and offer their adds. We have a far flung fan-base and one of the better European fan-bases in my opinion, so I think a day is pretty fair so that everyone can have some input. It is still a pretty long off-season, I understand wanting to vote for #2 but the crowd that immediately needs to move on might need to calm down a bit from time to time. Mid-September isn't that close, we don't need to rush through our prospect rankings in a week in my opinion.

If it shapes up another way I get it, but to start at least I would like at least 24 hours between polls.

Agreed the 24 hour minimum is good and we are approaching that mark.

Keep in mind that these typically get around 100 votes in the Wings section and we are past that mark.

Also the polling is not even close.

We all know after the first few prospects is where the real discussion takes place, and only cause the poll is closed does not mean the discussion is over.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

1. Zadina
2. Seider
3. Veleno
4. Hirose
5. Larsson

With you on the top three. I'd have Jared at #4, though.

Not Subway Jared...

 

[Killerjas]

With you on the top three. I'd have Jared at #4, though.

Not Subway Jared...

With Subway Jared, he will be with you on top

 

[StNickFan]

My vote was for Zadina.

This year 1-3 is super close, I could hear arguments for either Veleno or Seider and understand where a person is coming from.

Also someone a little over looked besides these last couple pages is Hirose. If your going for the best player as of today, he’s definitely the guy.

Why did I pick Z? He clearly has the biggest upside and I really liked what I’ve seen the couple games I seen in GR. During his call up though is what separated him from the rest of the pack. While he didn’t produce, you can see it and it only looks like it’s gonna be time till he’s a star.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

With Subway Jared, he will be with you on top

4 is too high a number for Subway Jared.

... Alright now it's just weird.

 

[RabidBadger]

Between Mastrosimone, Phillips, and Kotkansalo... going to have to try to watch some BU.

You'll get your prospect fix but it may not be pretty. The wheels have come off the bus at B.U. lately. Even in Dave Quinn's last year they were shockingly mediocre relative to their talent pool. I was a little worried about Kotkansalo's development last year, but we'll see how it plays out. B.U. has traditionally produced very solid N.H.L. players.

 

[Frk It]

You'll get your prospect fix but it may not be pretty. The wheels have come off the bus at B.U. lately. Even in Dave Quinn's last year they were shockingly mediocre relative to their talent pool. I was a little worried about Kotkansalo's development last year, but we'll see how it plays out. B.U. has traditionally produced very solid N.H.L. players.

Adding a bunch of kids from the USDP should be a shot in the arm to that program.

I think Jake Wise should take a step next year. Zegras and Wise as your top 2 centers could be one of the better duos in college hockey. Hopefully McCarthy slots in as the partner for Kotkansalo on the top pairing, they could be good together.

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

My top prospects.
1 Seider
2 Veleno
2 Zadina
2 McIsaac
5 Rasmussen
5 Cholowski

 

[lilidk]

Zadina was highest ranking player we drafted in the past decade or so . It doesn't make him better than Svechnikov or Veleno . He needs to show that he improve . For example ,can he produce point per game at AHL?. I believe Rasmussen or Veleno could , not sure about Zadina.

 

[Syckle78]

I'm surprised (but maybe I shouldn't be) that we have some people with opinions based on recency bias. Seider is the new shiny toy which means he has "a lot of potential" and "high upside" while Zadina is the old toy who is "underwhelming" and "missing elite potential".

You don't do well with people not sharing your opinions do you?