Confirmed with Link: Drouin taking indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons - placed on LTIR (Mod warn #28, 382

[Andrei79]

Honestly, if I was a Habs player and happened to read half of what people are saying about Drouin on HFBoards, but this time about me, I'm pretty sure I would fall into depression.

Some fans need to look at themselves in the mirror. It’s Ok to criticize the performance of a player, but calling a player "trash" or "garbage" is never ok. Too often, the comments become personal here. Too often, derogatory terms are used. Too often, fans criticize the person, instead of the performance. Too often, these critics are based on the nationality of the player, instead of his actual performance.

I think every poster has a responsibility here. But because of the low level of maturity here in general, maybe it should be the mods job to enforce civility and respect. The line is too often crossed. And it has real, human consequences.

What are the human consequences of HFboards for hockey players?

 

[peate]

You guys put way more importance to this board that it merits. You really think that our opinions or ravings affect players in real life? I'm sure they get a big laugh out of it, or more probably, completely ignore it.

 

[1909]

not much

 

[Habs]

What are the human consequences of HFboards for hockey players?

None, it just lets people sound all high and mighty, as if Drouin reads HF. Just like the don't read the trade threads, the accolades, the contract threads.. there shouldn't ever be a mod warning on those discussions. Feelings are not hurt. Let Drouin and the boys register here with blue checkmarks, then we will be nice. Until then, I think they post here undercover as mods?

 

[OldCraig71]

You guys put way more importance to this board that it merits. You really think that our opinions or ravings affect players in real life? I'm sure they get a big laugh out of it, or more probably, completely ignore it.

Yeah really and no one even knows the true circumstances surrounding Drouin or the team or why he is taking a break from hockey. They are using this opportunity to take shots at posters here as if we or any other fan contributed to the current situation. What a world we live in.

 

[WatchfulElm]

What are the human consequences of HFboards for hockey players?

Who the hell knows?

But thinking that your words never have consequences is irresponsible at best.

 

[WatchfulElm]

You guys put way more importance to this board that it merits. You really think that our opinions or ravings affect players in real life? I'm sure they get a big laugh out of it, or more probably, completely ignore it.

Would you be affected if I knew your name and your life, and started posting all sorts of craps about you online, saying how incompetent you are at your job, questionning your character, speading rumors, calling you trash and garbage?

Now imagine a giant hord of people doing it on a daily basis. Whole forums dedicated to it. TV and radio shows spending a lot of time doing it.

Imagine living this, while being a young and insecure adult, just trying to build yourself some confidence, but facing this tsunami of hate daily.

You really, really thing the crap we say here have no consequence?

We don't live on the same planet. But I'm sure it helps you sleep better, thinking whatever you do or say has no consequence.

 

[peate]

Now imagine a giant hord of people doing it on a daily basis. Whole forums dedicated to it. TV and radio shows spending a lot of time doing it.

Sorry but that doesn't faze me the slightest. We are not a horde of giants. You barely registered on my attention bracket. Say whatever you want, it's free country. Now excuse me, I have some trash talking to do elsewhere.

 

[peate]

Would you be affected if I knew your name and your life, and started posting all sorts of craps about you online, saying how incompetent you are at your job, questionning your character, speading rumors, calling you trash and garbage?

There are laws against slander, and you'd get a taste of it.

 

[BLONG7]

Yeah really and no one even knows the true circumstances surrounding Drouin or the team or why he is taking a break from hockey. They are using this opportunity to take shots at posters here as if we or any other fan contributed to the current situation. What a world we live in.

People need to chill eh.............message board full of opinions...there are alot of posters here, who take themselves way too seriously.
As for JD, as we know, before anyone even knew him, he had some struggles being dealt to Halifax.
Season tix holders I know in Halifax knew, Drouin going to Montreal was going to blow up.....he needed to behave himself in Tampa, and play under the radar down there.....he didn't and here we are.
So, for us to have an opinion here, many years later, let's be honest, it has a small chance of getting back to JD, but 99.9% unlikely he even knows what HF boards are?
He would be more likely to know something about what other franco fans are saying about him.....

 

[ArtPeur]

You guys put way more importance to this board that it merits. You really think that our opinions or ravings affect players in real life? I'm sure they get a big laugh out of it, or more probably, completely ignore it.

We scared Brian Savage away

 

[Andrei79]

Who the hell knows?

But thinking that your words never have consequences is irresponsible at best.

No, I don't think its irresponsible at all to think there aren't any significant human consequences on players from whats posted here. The opposite sounds like a fantasy and unsubstantiated though. "Who the hell knows" sounds like a tenuous argument, at best, to justify stronger moderation when the moderation already takes into account real world definitions of harassment, libel and violence.

 

[OldCraig71]

People need to chill eh.............message board full of opinions...there are alot of posters here, who take themselves way too seriously.
As for JD, as we know, before anyone even knew him, he had some struggles being dealt to Halifax.
Season tix holders I know in Halifax knew, Drouin going to Montreal was going to blow up.....he needed to behave himself in Tampa, and play under the radar down there.....he didn't and here we are.
So, for us to have an opinion here, many years later, let's be honest, it has a small chance of getting back to JD, but 99.9% unlikely he even knows what HF boards are?
He would be more likely to know something about what other franco fans are saying about him.....

I can't comment on anything about Drouins junior hockey career but what I can say is this. There are plenty of shitty things happening to people in all walks of life, the past year has been especially hard for many but life goes on. There are people that fall through the cracks no matter their social status, age, ethnicity, you name it, shit happens to people every day.

This is a hockey message board where we talk about the Montreal Canadiens and no one on the roster is spared from criticism or praise for that matter. I have been here a long time and I have seen it all as I am sure you have. I have read thousands of posts that have destroyed Carey Price for everything from his salary, performance and even his nightlife in Montreal as a single guy, you name it and it has been said here about him. Galchenyuk, Eller, Weber, Brisebois and so many others have been scrutinized daily and Drouin is no different.

I hope that whatever the situation is involving Drouin gets resolved, what else can I say? What else can anyone say? We don't know what the situation is, Alcohol, drugs, depression, anxiety,family matters, who knows? He will get the situation resolved and hopefully move on with his life, it is what it is.

 

[Just this once]

One thing I was thinking about is the LTIR factor... I don't believe you can go on LTIR if it's not a personal issue or injury. If it's not Drouin and it's something else in his personal life, I don't believe the NHL will allow to move a player to LTIR.

The Club physician has to sign on it, but it's not clear what the criteria are.
The player has to be disabled for the duration, so I believe it would need to be health related.
Not to attend funerals or something of the sort.

So mental illness seems like the probability? Yes or no?

I would not throw the word lightly. Physicians can't diagnosed mental illness, he would need to see a psychiatrist. Like people usually think "depression", because it is the only mental illness they know, but for that diagnosis, it needs to disable the person for three months. If he feels bad or something, I don't see how someone could predict how long he will feel that way. I don't find it plausible to be honest. If that was the issue, he probably would be day to day type of thing. If I were to guess, a non playing related illness might be more likely, unless he saw a psychiatrist prior and so on, and they came to the conclusion it won't fix itself for awhile. But the kind of narrative people are trying to push, that he saw something on twitter and it destroyed him, or that some critique about his goal scoring sent him on a spiral of death, sounds more like wishful thinking than something that could happen. The guy has been a pro for many years now, he probably saw and heard everything already. But sometimes drops accumulate and then there is a breakdown, so not impossible, but it sounds like a media narrative, like the "Price is now crazy and needs immediate help" a year or two ago.

 

[GordonGraham]

How is the media in mtl handling this grenade, i have not lived in mtl in over 20 years and stopped listening to tsn radio a while back.So i am out of the loop.

Thanks

Pretty much leaving him alone if he was a player on the yankees or cowboys journalist would be camping out infront of his house, following him as soon as he got in his car, They are letting off way too easily

 

[JJ68]

To the people on here thinking that what they write might not affect someone in real life....explain to me why it is there is so much suicide from "irrelevant" online bullying?

Having said that, it may not even be a mental or psychological issue with Drouin. I wish him well no matter what it may be.

 

[Andrei79]

To the people on here thinking that what they write might not affect someone in real life....explain to me why it is there is so much suicide from "irrelevant" online bullying?

I think you're inventing your own interpretation of what's being said. There's no debating that intentional hateful, violent, harassing messages being posted with the purpose, and realistic possibility, of them being read by Drouin or his close relations are relevant.

The question here is on what reasonable grounds is this placed being lumped with those real world consequences on players, aside from some posters feeling so or being hurt by proxy by it. It's not impossible, and I may be wrong, but I feel its unsubstantiated and overly dramatic.

 

[Edgy]

People need to chill eh.............message board full of opinions...there are alot of posters here, who take themselves way too seriously.
As for JD, as we know, before anyone even knew him, he had some struggles being dealt to Halifax.
Season tix holders I know in Halifax knew, Drouin going to Montreal was going to blow up.....he needed to behave himself in Tampa, and play under the radar down there.....he didn't and here we are.
So, for us to have an opinion here, many years later, let's be honest, it has a small chance of getting back to JD, but 99.9% unlikely he even knows what HF boards are?
He would be more likely to know something about what other franco fans are saying about him.....

Precisely. Drouin was never going to live up to the expectations and hype created by Bergevin when he acquired him. His issues were well known and Bergevin still went out of his way to get him via a completely unnecessary trade. He was a sacrificial pawn thrown to the wolves to deflect the attention away from Bergevin's failings as a GM.

 

[WatchfulElm]

Sorry but that doesn't faze me the slightest. We are not a horde of giants. You barely registered on my attention bracket. Say whatever you want, it's free country. Now excuse me, I have some trash talking to do elsewhere.

Honestly, I don't know how to reply to you without being infracted. I just hope your less than 15 years old.

 

[MasterDecoy]

you say this without even having a raindrop of a clue of how it is to face constant pressure from external sources that you cannot control.

Drouin had some insane amount of hate on social media and even here too by some posters with a dog pic

Hey you leave me out of this

 

[tazsub3]

Did the fans put Drouin in rehab? Stress related?

If you read a poster last night,you would have realised it is all on me. I have no empathy and since i brought up what he did in tampa and coasting and his assist comment, it is people like me that are the problem.
i will take an appointment with a priest this weekend and confess this sin and Oh and lets not forget the other sin according to the great LeSean, being an executive thus being ignorant with no empathy as he called me .

 

[SakuKoivu11]

If you read a poster last night,you would have realised it is all on me. I have no empathy and since i brought up what he did in tampa and coasting and his assist comment, it is people like me that are the problem.
i will take an appointment with a priest this weekend and confess this sin and Oh and lets not forget the other sin according to the great LeSean, being an executive thus being ignorant with no empathy as he called me .

Link?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I think it’s a bit premature to say Drouin cracked under pressure. None of us know what’s going on, maybe COVID got to him, maybe family is having issues, maybe it’s hockey related. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt here and hopefully whatever he is going through is short term and he’s able to bounce back. He’s not a robot, he’s a professional, but he’s not immune from mental health issues or family issues just the same as none of us are.

it’s easy to sit here and say he wilted under pressure, but no one knows wtf is going on here.

 

[peate]

Honestly, I don't know how to reply to you without being infracted. I just hope your less than 15 years old.

My less than 15 years old what? Most of my stuff is older than that. I have a favorite shirt, must be close to 50 years old, made from organic hemp, still looks great. Oh wait, silly me, you meant my age? Why do you ask? Am I really worth all this pent up anger?

 

[tazsub3]

Link?

Hhahaha, go through this thread , and search for leSean post and replies. it makes for good comedy. Except if mods deleted them as they should . But i trust them and respect whatever they choose