Draisaitl vs. Matthews

[Martin Skoula]

I think the announcer during tonight's game said something like "18 goals for Matthews' in his last 19 october games".

If only auston could score like this all season and not just october.

Healthy I'd say matthews will score more. But, I'd say theres a ~35% chance he misses a handful of games so it's close.

What a loser, he can only go GPG for a month.

 

[McFlash97]

If Matthews leaves Toronto in 5 years, that does not bode well for Edmonton at all...

Your right....Arizona become a tougher matchup moving forward.

 

[Fourier]

Matthews.

Draisaitl should keep it close because of his inability to carry a line or produce without McDavid, resulting in him being force fed 25 mins a night with McDavid to produce.

Draisaitl centring his own line lasted what, half a game? He’s a great complimentary winger.

You do realise that in the one game they played apart this year Draisiatl was by far the Oilers best player. He had three points to McDavid's 1. But why worry about what actually happens on the ice when a good narrative can serve your purposes better?

Here by the way are Matthews points this year

1	2019-10-02	TOR		OTT	2	08:02	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by William Nylander and Morgan Rielly
2	2019-10-02	TOR		OTT	2	14:50	PP	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Mitch Marner and John Tavares
3	2019-10-04	TOR	@	CBJ	3	14:04	PP	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Morgan Rielly and Mitch Marner
4	2019-10-05	TOR		MTL	1	05:57	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Morgan Rielly and Cody Ceci
5	2019-10-05	TOR		MTL	3	18:45	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Tyson Barrie and Mitch Marner
6	2019-10-10	TOR		TBL	1	04:19	PP	Goal by Andreas Johnsson, assisted by Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner
7	2019-10-10	TOR		TBL	1	17:56	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Jake Muzzin and William Ny

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

It must be tough having to carry those plugs all over the ice.

Here are Leon's points. You will see that its not just McDavid who carries Draisaitl. But also Zack Kassian.

1	2019-10-02	EDM		VAN	1	05:42	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Zack Kassian and Matt Benning
2	2019-10-02	EDM		VAN	3	10:52	EV	Goal by Zack Kassian, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Darnell Nurse
3	2019-10-02	EDM		VAN	3	14:37	EV	Goal by Connor McDavid, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Matt Benning
4	2019-10-05	EDM		LAK	1	00:53	EV	Goal by Connor McDavid, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Oscar Klefbom
5	2019-10-05	EDM		LAK	2	04:51	EV	Goal by Zack Kassian, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid
6	2019-10-08	EDM	@	NYI	2	06:31	PP	Goal by James Neal, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid
7	2019-10-08	EDM	@	NYI	2	08:46	EV	Goal by Zack Kassian, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid
8	2019-10-10	EDM	@	NJD	1	09:17	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Darnell Nurse and Zack Kassian
9	2019-10-12	EDM	@	NYR	3	09:44	PP	Goal by Connor McDavid, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Oscar Klefbom
10	2019-10-12	EDM	@	NYR	3	13:12	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Connor McDavid and Ethan Bear
11	2019-10-12	EDM	@	NYR	3	19:45	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Darnell Nurse
12	2019-10-14	EDM	@	CHI	3	17:49	PP	Goal by James Neal, assisted by Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Leo

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[razkaz]

Again, some people can't be bothered to read.

Matthews 7G in 7GP
Draisaitl 4G in 6GP

 

[Stamkos4life]

What a loser, he can only go GPG for a month.

Definitely a streaky player.

 

[Dache]

Sure, but that's the point. If you have two 100 point players when playing together but they are 70 point players when playing apart then what you have is two 70 point players who play well together (that is just a hypothetical - I am not saying that McDavid is a 70 point player - Drai's production was much more dependant on McDavid than McDavid's was on Drai). And yes, the Oilers wingers did not look great, but they would have looked better playing with centers like McDavid and Drai. If you are supposedly really good you should be elevating mediocre linemates, instead of being elevated by even better linemates.

So you’re saying a players value is only what he produces playing with absolute garbage players?

 

[Dache]

Matthews would probably score 70 goals playing with McDavid for 82 games. Maybe we will get to see it later on in their careers

True. McDavid will still be under contract when Matthews hits free agency. Would be a neat thing to see Matthews play wing in edm

 

[Dache]

What a loser, he can only go GPG for a month.

So he’s as good as Laine?

 

[Bonzo111]

Both awesome players

 

[WillTheThrill]

...except Matthew's is out of Toronto in 5 years. Don't see McDavid signing in Arizona bud.

I see him coming home though

 

[McFlash97]

I see him coming home though

Unfortunately he isnt a backstabbing weasel like Tavares though. He is in the mold of a Gretzky. Born near Toronto...but all Edmonton.

 

[WillTheThrill]

Unfortunately he isnt a backstabbing weasel like Tavares though. He is in the mold of a Gretzky. Born near Toronto...but all Edmonton.

Nobody would/should blame mcdavid one bit if he leaves Edmonton. It’s a joke what he’s had to put up with.

 

[McFlash97]

Nobody would/should blame mcdavid one bit if he leaves Edmonton. It’s a joke what he’s had to put up with.

You mean 2 years of fail with Chiarelli. Nothing more. It will be a joke ...what's coming to Toronto in 5 years...or should I say leaving. 50 plus years of no cups , constant playoff first round fodder, better win than cup within the next few years.

 

[olli]

Matthews.

Draisaitl should keep it close because of his inability to carry a line or produce without McDavid, resulting in him being force fed 25 mins a night with McDavid to produce.

Draisaitl centring his own line lasted what, half a game? He’s a great complimentary winger.

The complimentary winger who scored 50 goals and 105 points.

 

[WillTheThrill]

You mean 2 years of fail with Chiarelli. Nothing more. It will be a joke ...what's coming to Toronto in 5 years...or should I say leaving. 50 plus years of no cups , constant playoff first round fodder, better win than cup within the next few years.

Yet John Tavares, a hometown kid signed here last July. lol

Back to the topic of the thread though, I obviously prefer Matthews. Drai is a fantastic player (looking back, he should have gone first overall) but I don't think he is the franchise changing player like Matthews is and has been.

 

[ole ole]

Yet John Tavares, a hometown kid signed here last July. lol

Back to the topic of the thread though, I obviously prefer Matthews. Drai is a fantastic player (looking back, he should have gone first overall) but I don't think he is the franchise changing player like Matthews is and has been.

Being soft in the playoffs isn't the definition of a franchise changing player.

 

[WillTheThrill]

Being soft in the playoffs isn't the definition of a franchise changing player.

lol he can be as soft as he wants, he scored 5 goals in 7 playoff games last year. Gotta be doing something right.

 

[ole ole]

lol he can be as soft as he wants, he scored 5 goals in 7 playoff games last year. Gotta be doing something right.

And where was he in game 7 when everything was on the line...he was doing his best impression of Casper the ghost
no goals
no assist
and a minus 3.
All when the series was on the line.

 

[WillTheThrill]

And where was he in game 7 when everything was on the line...he was doing his best impression of Casper the ghost
no goals
no assist
and a minus 3.
All when the series was on the line.

Smh what a bum.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

You do realise that in the one game they played apart this year Draisiatl was by far the Oilers best player. He had three points to McDavid's 1. But why worry about what actually happens on the ice when a good narrative can serve your purposes better?

Here by the way are Matthews points this year

1	2019-10-02	TOR		OTT	2	08:02	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by William Nylander and Morgan Rielly
2	2019-10-02	TOR		OTT	2	14:50	PP	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Mitch Marner and John Tavares
3	2019-10-04	TOR	@	CBJ	3	14:04	PP	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Morgan Rielly and Mitch Marner
4	2019-10-05	TOR		MTL	1	05:57	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Morgan Rielly and Cody Ceci
5	2019-10-05	TOR		MTL	3	18:45	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Tyson Barrie and Mitch Marner
6	2019-10-10	TOR		TBL	1	04:19	PP	Goal by Andreas Johnsson, assisted by Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner
7	2019-10-10	TOR		TBL	1	17:56	EV	Goal by Auston Matthews, assisted by Jake Muzzin and William Ny

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

It must be tough having to carry those plugs all over the ice.

Here are Leon's points. You will see that its not just McDavid who carries Draisaitl. But also Zack Kassian.

1	2019-10-02	EDM		VAN	1	05:42	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Zack Kassian and Matt Benning
2	2019-10-02	EDM		VAN	3	10:52	EV	Goal by Zack Kassian, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Darnell Nurse
3	2019-10-02	EDM		VAN	3	14:37	EV	Goal by Connor McDavid, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Matt Benning
4	2019-10-05	EDM		LAK	1	00:53	EV	Goal by Connor McDavid, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Oscar Klefbom
5	2019-10-05	EDM		LAK	2	04:51	EV	Goal by Zack Kassian, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid
6	2019-10-08	EDM	@	NYI	2	06:31	PP	Goal by James Neal, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid
7	2019-10-08	EDM	@	NYI	2	08:46	EV	Goal by Zack Kassian, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid
8	2019-10-10	EDM	@	NJD	1	09:17	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Darnell Nurse and Zack Kassian
9	2019-10-12	EDM	@	NYR	3	09:44	PP	Goal by Connor McDavid, assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Oscar Klefbom
10	2019-10-12	EDM	@	NYR	3	13:12	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Connor McDavid and Ethan Bear
11	2019-10-12	EDM	@	NYR	3	19:45	EV	Goal by Leon Draisaitl, assisted by Darnell Nurse
12	2019-10-14	EDM	@	CHI	3	17:49	PP	Goal by James Neal, assisted by Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Leo

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The usual few laugh fans will conveniently skip past these facts as they continue to paw at anything in desperation. If the Oilers could put together a whole team at some point, it would be a sight to see. For now I'm just happy we have 2 players better than Toronto's best offering.

 

[Menzinger]

And where was he in game 7 when everything was on the line...he was doing his best impression of Casper the ghost
no goals
no assist
and a minus 3.
All when the series was on the line.

Using a single game to evaluate a players overall worth is just dumb.

 

[Menzinger]

The usual few laugh fans will conveniently skip past these facts as they continue to paw at anything in desperation. If the Oilers could put together a whole team at some point, it would be a sight to see. For now I'm just happy we have 2 players better than Toronto's best offering.

What a pathetically low bar to set lol. Maybe switch to following a better team like the Flames?

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

What a pathetically low bar to set lol. Maybe switch to following a better team like the Flames?

[mod] I guess that happens when your supposedly "generational" player turns out to be less than top 20 year after year.

 

[McFlash97]

Yet John Tavares, a hometown kid signed here last July. lol

Back to the topic of the thread though, I obviously prefer Matthews. Drai is a fantastic player (looking back, he should have gone first overall) but I don't think he is the franchise changing player like Matthews is and has been.

Lol

Matthew's just killing Draisaitl on the stats charts ...good one.

 

[typicalsavage]

Being soft in the playoffs isn't the definition of a franchise changing player.

So I guess Kane is worthless? or Kessel?