Good one!seems like you should stay out of a discussion you clearly don't understand
Lol it's obvious you don't understand.
I guess when you get caught in the tangle of your own BS you lash out with weak insults.
Carry on
Good one!seems like you should stay out of a discussion you clearly don't understand
Yes let's base all our decisions on one awful game.After watching Leafs get embarrassed 6-3 by losing to a 42 year old Zamboni driver goalie I was finally convinced Babcock was the problem and change was needed.
One day maybe you'll have actual facts to rest your hat on instead of a single boogie man scapegoatone day maybe you'll have actual success to rest your hat on instead of excuses
We can talk when that happens
caught in my own bs ?Good one!
Lol it's obvious you don't understand.
I guess when you get caught in the tangle of your own BS you lash out with weak insults.
Carry on
I do. The team has regressed since Dubas took over. Ignore that reality all you like. He managed to make us a playoff bubble team this year. That's how bad he's done.One day maybe you'll have actual facts to rest your hat on instead of a single boogie man scapegoat
We can talk when that happens
have you seen our record the last 20ish games ?Yes let's base all our decisions on one awful game.
All other factors mean nothing including our strong post-Babs record and 2 recent quality wins over our likely playoff opponent TB.
Your argument was saying dubas is a bad gm andbused the overpayment of Tavares as an example even though he signed here for less than offered.caught in my own bs ?
posters are saying JT is underpaid because there was a rumor SJ offered more , i'm merely pointing out how most of the ufa's that sign above what there worth all say they were offered more with the corresponding rumor of team x making the offer and used Clarkson as an example so i have no idea what warped point you're trying to make
I do. The team has regressed since Dubas took over. Ignore that reality all you like. He managed to make us a playoff bubble team this year. That's how bad he's done.
I blame Shanny most.
not quite but at least you gave the spin a better effort this timeYour argument was saying dubas is a bad gm andbused the overpayment of Tavares as an example even though he signed here for less than offered.
Your next post said that UFA's are always overpaid and seldom worth what they get paid.
So, if ufa's are always overpaid, logically you cannot use this for an argument that dubas is a bad GM.
I’m no Einstein, but maybe, just maaaaybe, it’s harder to win when you don’t have your three best players on ELCs.
Even if the SJ off was not real, by your own admission UFA's are overpaid, so it's not a viable argument against dubas unless you believe JT was grossly overpaid above market value, which I don't think many people do.not quite but at least you gave the spin a better effort this time
and just to be clear , the SJ offer was a rumor , it was never confirmed and grew legs to try to paint Johnny Snowshoes and the Dube in a better light
can't blame them though since it seems to always work regardless of how many times it gets used , lol
Last time I checked were in 3rd just like the previous 4 years we haven't regressed. With everyone healthy we could beat TB we have the same odds of advancing as the past 3 playoffs despite being hit harder with injuries and subpar tending.I do. The team has regressed since Dubas took over. Ignore that reality all you like. He managed to make us a playoff bubble team this year. That's how bad he's done.
I blame Shanny most.
Yes Dubas made a mistake trusting Hutch but he got us a quality backup now and ofcourse will only be criticized by you haters.have you seen our record the last 20ish games ?
and while Babs had to go due to losing the team how is it his fault our idiot GM gave him a b/u goalie that couldn't win a game?
my original point was when Dubas overpaid JT it pushed the salary bar higher for M & M , you can agree or disagree but don't spin my postsEven if the SJ off was not real, by your own admission UFA's are overpaid, so it's not a viable argument against dubas unless you believe JT was grossly overpaid above market value, which I don't think many people do.
yea Dubas made a mistake by trying to fix a problem we didn't have but hey we should praise him for wasting assets to correct the mistake after over a season and a half when he could have easily found a decent b/u for free in the off season , great logicYes Dubas made a mistake trusting Hutch but he got us a quality backup now and ofcourse will only be criticized by you haters.
Interesting you choose the last 20 games why not post-Babs since that's what the thread is about. But there our record is strong and doesn't fit your agenda.
Wasting assets oh like a 3rd and 5th rounder in trades for a backup. God forbid future Gretzky's we missed out on. He's more than made up for trading some picks away with fantastic picks like Sandin and Robbo.yea Dubas made a mistake by trying to fix a problem we didn't have but hey we should praise him for wasting assets to correct the mistake after over a season and a half when he could have easily found a decent b/u for free in the off season , great logic
why is it so interesting ? after the coaching change the team played well but are back to there inconsistent ways the last 20 plus games
i'm guessing your agenda is who gives a damn about the team since the point of being a fan is to cheer for the GM
He was a terrible coach though...
All-Time NHL Head Coaching RecordsI find this statement really interesting.
As measured by what?
Mike Babcock will likely be hired again in the next few years and you're going to have to deal with it.
a 3rd and a 5th ?Wasting assets oh like a 3rd and 5th rounder in trades for a backup. God forbid future Gretzky's we missed out on. He's more than made up for trading some picks away with fantastic picks like Sandin and Robbo.
We have a quality cheap youngish backup now which is what matters. McBackup is 36 and having a mediocre season anyways. Now we are in much better shape with no skin lost except a 3rd and a 5th gone.
Yes consistency is our biggest problem not the GM but the thread is about improvement post-Babs not the last 20 games. The last 20 games also coincide with our biggest injury problems but of course you wouldn't dare factor that in.
We were a much better team with Lou period. Until then...you don't really have an argument.I’m no Einstein, but maybe, just maaaaybe, it’s harder to win when you don’t have your three best players on ELCs.
If anything we should be mad Lou couldn’t do better with such a favourable salary situation. Instead he torpedoed us with bad contracts and overpaying 4th liners, just as he is doing with the Isles.
Not a spin imo. 2 separate issues. UFA vs RFAmy original point was when Dubas overpaid JT it pushed the salary bar higher for M & M , you can agree or disagree but don't spin my posts
Lots of maybes. This team is dysfunctional. If you're pleased with it .....hey. I'd say you're in the minority.Last time I checked were in 3rd just like the previous 4 years we haven't regressed. With everyone healthy we could beat TB we have the same odds of advancing as the past 3 playoffs despite being hit harder with injuries and subpar tending.