Myth. Many players that have ended up in Ottawa for various reasons (trade, etc.) decide to stay permanently, raise their family, etc. Its the opposite of the theory you're pitching. Decent chance you've never been there, but whatever. I'm sure Vancouver is the only team with Russian players. Good story.
Who in the last 5 years or so has gone there that isn’t a fringe player and wants to stay there long term? Other than having RFA rights towards drafted players no stars in their prime has gone there via choice. I was born in Ontario and have nothing against Ottawa but I’m being real here, you guys traded a 3rd for Hamonic last year. Ottawa views finances more importantly right now due to the team not playing well and ownership locking up their young core already. Fact is, players like Myers are attractive to the team especially if we can include Zaitzev in the deal for cap purposes.
In my first post it stated other than Giroux who wanted to play for his home town. He’s past his prime as well, still a decent player but that is about the only guy who voluntarily went there other than third or 4th line guys or bottom pairing Dmen.
Your overrating van, which has as bad a media without the sponsorship opps that exist in Toronto and Montreal
He mentioned Giroux in his earlier post.
They just had one of the best free agents not in the NHL sign there and the next generational prospect Bedard say his favourite team is the Canucks and he’d love to play there as his #1 choice if it was up to him (no direct quote but by his interviews it’s his favourite team). I’m also not comparing other situations, just speaking about Ottawa and the difficulty to attract players or to get them to lift their no trade to go there.
Zub chose to go there. Sure, he wasn't a household name yet, but he still chose Ottawa over other suitors. I'll admit though that Ottawa has a hard to attracting big UFA's, but seems to do well signing young players long term. Hell, Brady Tkachuk chose to sign 8 years and Matt forced his way out of Calgary.
Bedard, whose from van and won’t say anything negative about any city or Kuzmenko whose looking at opportunity and not city at this point? Vancouvers nice don’t get me wrong I spend a lot of time there, but your like 16-20th on the list looking down on a 27-32
Giroux has 21 points in 20 games played, has a corsi % of 60, fenwick of 58%, 58.5 xGF% which drops to 47.5% for the Senators when he's not on the ice. To say he's past his prime is ridiculous. Yes, this isn't peak Giroux but he's absolutely still in his prime.
He also moved the goalpost and changed the topic as well. It started as a reply back to my post where I mentioned that players that end up here by whatever means decide to stay and make Ottawa their homes. Karlsson and Alfredsson are examples. They cite it as a good place for their family, etc. There was an article recently with Craig Anderson (an American) saying it was great city in Canada to live in and play hockey. Don't think he's ever been in Ottawa but he responded to that question by saying he was born in "Ontario" = deflection.
Instead of a definitive answer you skated around the question and pretty much attacked me. Your response confirms what I thought.
Going into the season this was best case and it’s happened. The expectation was definitely lower from himself as well I imagine. I’m happy for you guys as being a fan of a Canadian market is tough.
I agree and it’s not, Ottawa is my second favourite team after Vancouver, I’m just going off reports sited by the experts with inside information. Stating my reasons instead of ripping into two overpaid Dmen who were rumoured to almost be traded for one another with a mysterious kicker from some team. It’s more about contract management while the prospects develop and can handle those minutes. I’m basically going off the Hamonic for a 3rd last year, that trade happened because he had a year left and not because he was worth a 3rd round pick.
It’s not like you are flat out wrong. The reports are saying that. I just think it is a bit overblown. It wasn’t really an issue prior to 2017, so it’s not an “Ottawa the place” but an “Ottawa the team” problem. It’s fixable.
I wondered if that might be the case. Many Senator fans were perplexed by that trade. What was perplexing is that the Senators gave up a 3rd. I think we offered more (a 3rd) than the ask (4th). IIRC. We didn't have a 4th, Dorion factor, or something.
Yeah it’s not Ottawa the place, if it was about locations that would be more Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh etc, it’s about the Canadian market. The way Ottawa is building their team is the correct way through the draft and development. Targeting players with shorter term even at higher dollars is how they should be rebuilding/tooling.
LA doesn't attract too many big name free agents. The two biggest names in their primes are Demitra and Danault. Outside of that its second tier level players or guys near the end of their careers.
It’s just my opinion and I know they said they liked the player. The extra year cost controlled and then off the books is the true meaning behind the trade. If the player fits both will want to continue and resign something more permanent, if they don’t then it’s one year where you could probably unload them at the trade deadline for a return. Say Myers went there and he didn’t fit, I’m sure you could offload him for a second or so retained, if he fits you resign him.
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