Post-Game Talk: Devils 5 Oilers 2 - welp

[bobbythebrain]

if if if

get over some hypothetical "what if" scenarios that may or may never have occurred

A hypothetical is saying we could have traded Hall, RNH and a 1st for Karlsson

Saying we didn't need to trade 2 players who didn't want to leave is not a hypothetical...it's just a mistake

Big difference there

 

[booyakasha]

Um, he got points on both Oiler goals, meanwhile some of the other fanboys' players did SFA. What he is doing that doesn't entail "earning his contract?" I'd love to know this from some of his deepest haters.

not being carried by McDavid?

 

[Soundwave]

I was a the game. Mcdavid is as good as advertised. I thought yamamoto was the worst forward on the ice.

McDavid is as advertised.

So are the rest of the Oilers around him.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Thoughts from inside the arena

Neither Bouchard not Yamamoto are ready for the NHL

Interesting take, what didn't you like about Bouchard's game? Watching from home I thought he looked very poised, made some smart plays, and all by a rookie in his first game.

 

[greengoblin]

Picked Rattie first overall in my yahoo draft. Going to drop him now. What a mistake. Like, he had 11 points in meaningless exhibition games. I thought forsure he was going to get 100 points at the rate he was scoring in preseason!!!

 

[Duke74]

its beyond description really.

Even when Drai scored he didn't do it right, was still getting slammed, still sucks. he then sets up 3 scoring chances after that beautifully and he still sucks, everything wrong with him etc.

McD, Drai, Lucic were our best players tonight and two of those got slagged all day.

As I said, he's the new target for people to vent their frustration on. Bad day at the office? Blame Draisaitl! Fight with the mother-in-law? Blame Draisaitl! While we're at it, let's blame Draisaitl for the weather too.

 

[McIce Whole]

Bear can move the puck up, put him in the god damn line up over Benning. Waive Caggiula, no ones claiming him at that cap hit ever.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

A hypothetical is saying we could have traded Hall, RNH and a 1st for Karlsson

Saying we didn't need to trade 2 players who didn't want to leave is not a hypothetical...it's just a mistake

Big difference there

The irony of course now being that wing is a position of concern that we haven't addressed while our defense is also a point of concern.

 

[nabob]

Yeah, gee, it's almost like the Oilers could use a speedy, offensive LW there next to Draisaitl.

HMMMMMMMM.

I dunno. Lucic was really good today and set Drai upmfor his goal. It’s too bad that Drai and Rieder aren’t clicking. Maybe give that another chance.

 

[Raab]

Did ANY Oilers forward get one good breakout pass in this entire game?

Every ****ing time its move it up around the boards.

Not even McD looked too exceptional with this pathetic break out. We don't have one D here that is a PMD.

Evan Bouchard says hi!

 

[MaxR11]

Yeah, gee, it's almost like the Oilers could use a speedy, offensive LW there next to Draisaitl.

HMMMMMMMM.

that speedy lw was too stupid and selfish in his time here. those two together would have been a gong show in the long run. people underestimate how much of a calming and leadership presence palmeri is.

 

[belair]

Holy crap, this every time.

Lucic and Drai both score and get an assist, best forwards on the team not named McD tonight and they get carved in 100's of posts in the GDT's


Not one comment that the loaded 1st line got not one goal. its all about Drai being "dependent" on McD getting two shifts in the whole game with him while McD's linemates the rest of the game couldn't get it done.

To be fair the expectations should be higher for Leon and to a lesser extent Milan. These guys both produced today, but both goals were a result of pressure caused by Connor McDavid. Our second line needs to produce consistent pressure on the opposition on their own and that line failed to do it all night.

I'm not ready to jump on these guys just yet as we're one game in, but it's a concern when they can't create high quality chances on their own.

 

[DDRhockey]

McDavid is as advertised.

So are the rest of the Oilers around him.

Mcdavid must be fastest player ever in nhl.

 

[MessierII]

its beyond description really.

Even when Drai scored he didn't do it right, was still getting slammed, still sucks. he then sets up 3 scoring chances after that beautifully and he still sucks, everything wrong with him etc.

McD, Drai, Lucic were our best players tonight and two of those got slagged all day.

Drai made some plays but defensively he was a disaster tonight. There’s not really a way around that.

 

[Soundwave]

I dunno. Lucic was really good today and set Drai upmfor his goal. It’s too bad that Drai and Rieder aren’t clicking. Maybe give that another chance.

Again.

Line 2 + 3 + 4

Had

TWO

Chances

The Entire Game.

Sit and think about that. This team does nothing without McDavid.

 

[48g90a138pts]

Nurse -3 22:59 (2 PIM); 22:45 EV TOI
Benning -3 20:17; 18:27 EV TOI
Klefbom 0 20:02; 15:30 EV TOI
Larsson 0 18:47; 16:27 EV TOI
...

I thought our top dogs were supposed to carry the weight?...

Hmmmmmm... not sure how Benning got more minutes than Larsson. Ooopsies. Like I've said before, Benning needs to improve a lot. No way he should be seeing 20 mins a game.

That Sekera injury is even worse now if Benning is getting 20 mins a game.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Evan Bouchard says hi!

Bingo

 

[russ99]

Would like to see them try:
Lucic - McDavid - Rattie
Rieder - Nuge - Leon

Seem to be a better fit when the opposition takes away the center of the ice.

 

[OilerTyler]

IMO our forward lines should be

RNH - McDavid - Rattie
Lucic - Draisaitl - Puljujarvi
Khaira - Strome - Rieder
Chiasson - Brodziak - Kassian

Yamamoto needs more seasoning in the AHL and Rieder is a waste on the fourth line. Lucic and Drai will benefit from another big winger with speed.

 

[CycloneSweep]

its beyond description really.

Even when Drai scored he didn't do it right, was still getting slammed, still sucks. he then sets up 3 scoring chances after that beautifully and he still sucks, everything wrong with him etc.

McD, Drai, Lucic were our best players tonight and two of those got slagged all day.

Only Drai got slagged today.

 

[Fear the Wushu]

This can’t be real. That can’t be your opinion after watching this game.

Hall was not the 2nd best player on the ice tonight but it's clear as day that it's McDavid, then Hall, then everyone else on the Oilers and Devils.

 

[McVirginOil]

Picked Rattie first overall in my yahoo draft. Going to drop him now. What a mistake. Like, he had 11 points in meaningless exhibition games. I thought forsure he was going to get 100 points at the rate he was scoring in preseason!!!

I hope you’re joking about picking Rattie 1st overall

 

[McDrai]

Again.

Line 2 + 3 + 4

Had

TWO

Chances

The Entire Game.

Sit and think about that. This team does nothing without McDavid.

You're correct. Without McDavid this team would probably garner 50-60 points in a season.

 

[DDRhockey]

Is rieder the same guy who played on kitchener rangers with landeskog? Holy smokes, how did this guy get an nhl career?

 

[Oilhawks]

I asked this on the main board GDT, but from a neutral fan's perspective, I was sort of baffled as to why Nurse and Benning seemed to be out there whenever McDavid was on the ice, rather than Klefbom. Any reason for this? Klefbom looked like the most dynamic D out there for you guys, but he generally seemed to be out with the second line. Also Nurse and Benning was out late when the Oilers were pushing for a goal when it was 4-2 and got the EN goal against. Klefbom didn't get out until after the EN goal.

Also, Klefbom is a stud. He'll be either 1st or 2nd best D man on the Oilers this year depending on Bouchard keeping up his play and sticking.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Klef-Lars
Nurse-Bear
Garrison-Bouchard

Let’s see this for a couple games.

I think this team's at a point where they need both Bear and Bouchard in the lineup, that or a one of them and a trade for another offensive defenceman. The defence just doesn't get enough of a consistent push up the ice.

Benning just doesn't cut it. He can't handle defensive responsibilities, nor can he generate any offence...

 

[yababy]

1st shot of the season goes in sums this game...hopefully not the season

in any case, they won game 1 last year and we had a horrid season

and that PP won't work...its abysmal

good for Looch on being a bright spot

The absolute one thing that can't happen to start this season is a goal on the first shot. It's a moral breaker

 

[McIce Whole]

As I said, he's the new target for people to vent their frustration on. Bad day at the office? Blame Draisaitl! Fight with the mother-in-law? Blame Draisaitl! While we're at it, let's blame Draisaitl for the weather too.

This “blame Draisaitl” narrative is absolutely BS. No one is wrongly blaming Drai or running him out of town. Most posters calling him out are big fans of Drai and his game.

But when you’ve been bad all of preseason and then to start the reg season, you deserve criticism. He is getting paid to be a driver on this team, he’s supposed to carry the play and be a threat every time Connor isn’t on the ice.

Idgaf if he got a goal and an assist. His assist was garbage and his goal doesn’t excuse his play. He was soft on the coverage which lead to the first goal. He had multiple turnovers, he wasn’t moving his feet.

I don’t doubt that Drai will bounce back but he needs to do it soon and so far, he has not shown much. We need him to turn it around and start being one of the best players every game (from both teams) to have a chance at anything.

 

[LaGu]

Hmmmmmm... not sure how Benning got more minutes than Larsson. Ooopsies. Like I've said before, Benning needs to improve a lot. No way he should be seeing 20 mins a game.

That Sekera injury is even worse now if Benning is getting 20 mins a game.

Not sure how anyone gets more minutes than Larsson unless it's with PP time..