Devils 2018-19 team discussion (news and notes) - part Xll

[Bleedred]

Nada, we’d be doing well to get a 3. A 5th is the highest I see him getting at this point. On what playoff contender is his 3+ GAA and sub .900 save going to be an improvement? And as a backup no less. You might get a 5 from a non playoff team desperate for depth to finish the season but honestly we’re one of those teams that needs depth to finish the season.

When was the last time a goalie like Kinkaid was traded at the deadline?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I'm confused. Why would Yak coming up be a good sign for Mac? Assuming Johnson was going down? Could have also been a precursor of Mac being placed on IR.

Because I just assumed the corresponding move was sending Johnson back down

which obviously isnt the case

 

[Devilsfan992]

Because I just assumed the corresponding move was sending Johnson back down

which obviously isnt the case

Devil's have two more games which they can leave MBW off the I.R.

He's most likely day to day given they have not put him on the I.R. yet.

 

[135ace]

Stone would be a Palms free agency replacement. Again, package would need to be insane. Not saying it would happen but I’d listen if I were Shero. It’s a pretty good free agent class this upcoming year and also a high end draft. A good time to stock up on prospects and draft picks if you ask me.

I don't see Palms being moved unless we upgrade him and other assets into a better player to a cap-strapped team. For example I would seriously consider something like Palms + our 1st + some other good asset for Draisaitl.

 

[JrFischer54]

i dont think palm is going to go anywhere trade wise. it would have to take a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge offer to move a jersey boy and a marketing departments dream hockey player.

 

[captainscott]

you can absolutely still be a bust and still be a useful nhl player.

question if the devils knew this was what zacha would look like do you think they still take him at #6?

Zacha.. is still young.. he has the game.. its all there.. he just has to continue to limit poor decisions.. last night reaves made a nice play on him I don't think zacha felt him there.. he just needs the confidence he seems really fragile upstairs but I'm happy with his play.. def has to find more consistancy with his game.. some guys develop this later some sooner

 

[captainscott]

Nada, we’d be doing well to get a 3. A 5th is the highest I see him getting at this point. On what playoff contender is his 3+ GAA and sub .900 save going to be an improvement? And as a backup no less. You might get a 5 from a non playoff team desperate for depth to finish the season but honestly we’re one of those teams that needs depth to finish the season.

agreed if there are no injuries.. if a well timed injury occurs to a team that doesn't like its options.. I could see a #3 coming back.. a #2 would be theft..

 

[Nubmer6]

Keep raising that trade value. Even if it’s just a 6th or 7th, I will take it!

Oh... I'd take a 6th for sure

 

[Nubmer6]

Oh let's ignore how often our other players give the Puck up all the time as well.


Also you are absolutely clueless and horrible saying if Zacha trips forward and all of that. Keep on showing the type of character human being you are. What an absolute shame.

I hate to say this but... other players give up the puck too, but not like Zacha. He seems to hand the opponent perfect set-up passes.

 

[Devils Dominion]

you can absolutely still be a bust and still be a useful nhl player.

question if the devils knew this was what zacha would look like do you think they still take him at #6?

Of course not

 

[Billdo]

question if the devils knew this was what zacha would look like do you think they still take him at #6?

This just has nothing to do with anything though.

 

[RNCDevil]

The frustration with Zacha is not that he is a bust and lacks the ability to make an impact in the NHL. The frustration is that he clearly could make an impact.

 

[haak84]

i could see pittsburgh wanting goalie insurance if they have an injruy to one of their netminders. could also see a package of lovejoy and kinkaid to pittsburgh.

plus kinkaid destroys pitt

 

[Camille the Eel]

I hate to say this but... other players give up the puck too, but not like Zacha. He seems to hand the opponent perfect set-up passes.

Looks that way because it happened two games in a row. But I don't remember seeing him do it before. Plus (from the replays, I didn't see either game) the two plays look quite different. In the Arizona game it was a really lame play, just a backhander in front of one's own net.

That centering pass as you try to clear your zone has become a read when you can't take it up the boards. But clearly further adjustments are necessary when the other club's forwards start to jump the pass. When they do that, hypothetically, they're leaving someone else open for another break out if your forwards and the guy making the pass have the vision to see it. It's a question of the entire unit reading the play. But a hard adjustment to make.

The Capitals broke Tampa's and then Vegas' trap last year with really short quick passes by their defense and forwards like tic-tac-toe again and again coming out of their own end. Niskanen, Orpik, and/or Carlson and a forward, they made an extra pass to exit but did it beautifully. Usually a quick lateral first pass, towards the dots and not really the crease, then the true breakout pass from the new angles created.

Oh well that's why they won the cup. Their D was also stable enough to receive that initial hand off (as it were) and look around and make the true exit pass. I doubt our guys have either the strength or the skill to do it as things stand at the moment.

 

[Nubmer6]

Looks that way because it happened two games in a row. But I don't remember seeing him do it before. Plus (from the replays, I didn't see either game) the two plays look quite different. In the Arizona game it was a really lame play, just a backhander in front of one's own net.

It's happened quite a few times before, but we were lucky enough not to be scored upon. In fact, I believe it happened right before Zacha was sent down to Bing. At the time, I believed it to be the final straw.

 

[Patrik26]

We have 39 points at the halfway mark. Using 95 points as the target to make the playoffs, is it realistic to think we can get 56 out of a possible 82 points? That's like saying we're going to be Toronto good the second half (27-12-2). Highly unlikely.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Well yeah I do remember him making some bone headed turnovers now that you mention it and jog my memory. Once or twice too around then when he could have skated a puck out and instead chose to make a lateral pass that got picked off. I’d really like to see him carry the puck more between the blue lines in fact and not be in such a hurry to move it. He’s happy with the puck on his stick now on the forecheck cycle but a good center holds it in center ice a little more when developing a play.

 

[glenwo2]

The top 30 unrestricted free agents of 2019 - TheHockeyNews

That’s a really strong class. If the Devils are active in the market than they can afford to be sellers this season.

Compare it to last years and LOL

The top 30 unrestricted free agents of 2018 - TheHockeyNews

2. ARTEMI PANARIN, LW, 27
2018-19 cap hit: $6,000,000
Karlsson is playing on a reconstructed left ankle. Panarin, meanwhile, is at the peak of his powers as a two-way maven and puckhandling wizard, almost looking like a winger version of Pavel Datsyuk. He should command an AAV of $9 million or more. The Blue Jackets want to keep him, but he reportedly wants the big-city life near a major body of water…


Does the Hudson River count?

 

[None Shall Pass]

2. ARTEMI PANARIN, LW, 27
2018-19 cap hit: $6,000,000
Karlsson is playing on a reconstructed left ankle. Panarin, meanwhile, is at the peak of his powers as a two-way maven and puckhandling wizard, almost looking like a winger version of Pavel Datsyuk. He should command an AAV of $9 million or more. The Blue Jackets want to keep him, but he reportedly wants the big-city life near a major body of water…


Does the Hudson River count?

The Atlantic Ocean sure does.

 

[Billdo]

2. ARTEMI PANARIN, LW, 27
2018-19 cap hit: $6,000,000
Karlsson is playing on a reconstructed left ankle. Panarin, meanwhile, is at the peak of his powers as a two-way maven and puckhandling wizard, almost looking like a winger version of Pavel Datsyuk. He should command an AAV of $9 million or more. The Blue Jackets want to keep him, but he reportedly wants the big-city life near a major body of water…


Does the Hudson River count?

He wants a major body of water, not major bodies in water.

 

[glenwo2]

The Atlantic Ocean sure does.

So it's the Islanders, Rags, and Us then.

Nada, we’d be doing well to get a 3. A 5th is the highest I see him getting at this point. On what playoff contender is his 3+ GAA and sub .900 save going to be an improvement? And as a backup no less. You might get a 5 from a non playoff team desperate for depth to finish the season but honestly we’re one of those teams that needs depth to finish the season.

I'd speak to the moron Chiarelli if I'm Shero then.

Maybe he can fool him into giving us a 3rd rounder?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

if ALL of these big name guys actually get to the market, we have to go big game hunting. Its time to use some of that cap space.

One of Panarin, Skinner, Stone, Duchene, or Karlsson please

 

[haak84]

if ALL of these big name guys actually get to the market, we have to go big game hunting. Its time to use some of that cap space.

One of Panarin, Skinner, Stone, Duchene, or Karlsson please

Couldn’t agree more. The Devils have the space to afford two of those guys and they would be one of our best players easily. I think that’s a big reason Shero was quiet this past offseason. Patrick Maroon was one of the premiere forward free agents.

 

[billingtons ghost]

if ALL of these big name guys actually get to the market, we have to go big game hunting. Its time to use some of that cap space.

One of Panarin, Skinner, Stone, Duchene, or Karlsson please

Skinner and Stone: yes.
Panarin: maybe
Karlsson: (+ Severson + Vats on defense?... yikes - better also trade for two Vezina-class goalies)
Duchene - want no part of this clown's problems.

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

The free agent class is good, but it's mostly forwards. We could definitely use a Stone or Duchene and then trade Wood or Zacha in a package for D. Otherwise, I say Shero should go for Tyler Myers if he's not too expensive.

That list is a bit weird though. They have Rick Nash and Pominville in the top 30 but Johansson and Derick Brassard (who just received a First and a Third last year) didn't make the cut?