Friedman: Devan Dubynk to the Sharks being worked on

[Dr Quincy]

If those two go for a 1st it'll probably say more about Donato than Dubnyk. At best I think Dubnyk with max retention is only worth the conditional 7th that Bjugstad got. Intriguing enough to take a 1 year flyer on as a backup, but that's about it.

Either way I think it's a bad move for SJ. Donato MIGHT be worth a 2nd, add on Dubnyk (granted it's only a year) and I wouldn't give up more than a 3rd for the pair.

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

What is the Sharks (apparent) fascination with Dubnyk and Donato?

Doug Wilson must be a fan of alliteration. lol

 

[DrSteveBrule]

I see this coming up everywhere right now, even among credible journalists, and I just don't think it's true. I get that his SV% and GAA looked respectable prior to last year, but Minnesota's defense has made his life easier than almost any goalie in the league since he arrived. I don't have the numbers on hand, but he's rarely faced scoring chances from high-danger areas relative to other goalies.

What really kills you is watching the Wild play great in their own end, keeping all the shots to the outside... and seeing a stinker, unscreened shot from the point go straight through Dubnyk. Night after night. That's not something that started last year.

Sounds just like Jones. Man, can't wait to have two goalies like that!

 

[Cor]

So pick #31 for Dubnyk (0 retention) and Donato?

Seems like a solid deal for Minny.

With the rumors of Minny maybe trading Greenway, I wonder if they look to use Greenway + 31 for their new goalie.

 

[Patty Ice]

Let me just re-emphasize:

Will Sharks Trade into Middle Rounds of 2020 NHL Draft?

“If I’m looking to acquire, for example a goaltender, I would prefer not to have to use picks from this year,” Wilson shared. “Would I listen to [an offer]? Absolutely. But this is a pretty good draft for what we’re looking for. Those picks are valued. Our first-round pick next year is valued. Somebody would have to knock my socks off to make me move around on that.”

Don't get your hopes up for a shiny new 1st round pick.

 

[Bazeek]

So pick #31 for Dubnyk (0 retention) and Donato?

Seems like a solid deal for Minny.

With the rumors of Minny maybe trading Greenway, I wonder if they look to use Greenway + 31 for their new goalie.

If they trade Donato they likely keep Greenway. And I can't see them spending either of those pieces on a goalie.

I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I get the feeling Fleury ends up in Minnesota.

 

[RWatson29]

I see this coming up everywhere right now, even among credible journalists, and I just don't think it's true. I get that his SV% and GAA looked respectable prior to last year, but Minnesota's defense has made his life easier than almost any goalie in the league since he arrived. I don't have the numbers on hand, but he's rarely faced scoring chances from high-danger areas relative to other goalies.

What really kills you is watching the Wild play great in their own end, keeping all the shots to the outside... and seeing a stinker, unscreened shot from the point go straight through Dubnyk. Night after night. That's not something that started last year.

Exactly. He’s a system goalie. Got absolutely torched in Edmonton and it would be like that version in Buffalo. Also I’m a little nervous about a Kuemper trade as well because I feel like he’s been a systems goalie as well. Only really showed flashes in the last 1.5 years.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Let me just re-emphasize:

Will Sharks Trade into Middle Rounds of 2020 NHL Draft?


Don't get your hopes up for a shiny new 1st round pick.

This would be incredibly dumb if the Sharks moved the 2021 with Dubnyk and Jones platooning.

 

[Bazeek]

Exactly. He’s a system goalie. Got absolutely torched in Edmonton and it would be like that version in Buffalo. Also I’m a little nervous about a Kuemper trade as well because I feel like he’s been a systems goalie as well. Only really showed flashes in the last 1.5 years.

Kuemper's another one that Guerin's apparently looked into. I haven't seen him much in Arizona but what we saw when he was with the Wild makes me think he's not just hiding behind good defense. There's real talent and ability there. My worry with Kuemper is how well he keeps it together when things go south for him: he could be lights out for several games, but once a few slipped past him he go completely off the rails.

I think he's largely moved past that, but there was a Min/Arz game last season that gave me pause. Kuemper was white hot going into that game and looked good to start, but for some reason he decided to start chirping Staal. I don't think it was anything ugly, but some of the Wild players (Koivu particularly) took exception to it and started barking at him. Kuemper wilted soon after that and.... that game didn't go well for the Coyotes.

So I don't know. Good goalie, but still kind of erratic.

 

[HotDish]

If they trade Donato they likely keep Greenway. And I can't see them spending either of those pieces on a goalie.

I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I get the feeling Fleury ends up in Minnesota.

I've flip flop about a million times on wanting Flower. I'm more open to it if Dubnyk's cap is gone.

Just because taking Flower means we got something pretty sweet from Vegas. Either Glass or Krebs plus a middle pick id guess.

 

[MMC]

 

[Sota Popinski]

If the Wild get a first out of this... woah. Robbery.

It is the last pick in the first. I'm not saying it's smart for the Sharks to trade that Dubnyk and Donato, but if it was the first pick in the 2nd round instead of the last pick in the first, I don't think people would have the same perception

 

[RWatson29]

Kuemper's another one that Guerin's apparently looked into. I haven't seen him much in Arizona but what we saw when he was with the Wild makes me think he's not just hiding behind good defense. There's real talent and ability there. My worry with Kuemper is how well he keeps it together when things go south for him: he could be lights out for several games, but once a few slipped past him he go completely off the rails.

I think he's largely moved past that, but there was a Min/Arz game last season that gave me pause. Kuemper was white hot going into that game and looked good to start, but for some reason he decided to start chirping Staal. I don't think it was anything ugly, but some of the Wild players (Koivu particularly) took exception to it and started barking at him. Kuemper wilted soon after that and.... that game didn't go well for the Coyotes.

So I don't know. Good goalie, but still kind of erratic.

Yeah to be honest I havnt watched that much of Kuemper but I feel like he’s definitley better than Dubnyk, but those elite stats over the last 1.5 yrs, Just don’t think he can keep that up. Did he ever push to be the starter in Minnesota? I’m just curious because I’ve heard buffalo would be interested but I wouldn’t wanna throw a first at him lol.

 

[Patty Ice]

This would be incredibly dumb if the Sharks moved the 2021 with Dubnyk and Jones platooning.

He states in that exact same quote that the 1st next year is valued. Minnesota is not getting a 1st this year or next for Dubnyk.

Maybe you can entertain the thought of getting SJ's first in 2245 (but I'm pretty sure there is a limit to what a team can trade from draft capital).

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

He states in that exact same quote that the 1st next year is valued. Minnesota is not getting a 1st this year or next for Dubnyk.

Maybe you can entertain the thought of getting SJ's first in 2245 (but I'm pretty sure there is a limit to what a team can trade from draft capital).

Dude you keep commenting the same thing. With no proof

 

[themelkman]

So its all up to Dubnyk at this point. Hes gotta decide if he wants to stay or go

 

[Patty Ice]

Dude you keep commenting the same thing. With no proof

A quote from Doug Wilson ie the guy who would facilitate the deal, is not proof? Are you that dense?

 

[Digitalbooya]

A quote from Doug Wilson ie the guy who would facilitate the deal, is not proof? Are you that dense?

I think with the timing of this all there’s got to be 2020 picks involved.

 

[themelkman]

I think with the timing of this all there’s got to be 2020 picks involved.

Yeah hopefully from the wild

 

[Patty Ice]

I think with the timing of this all there’s got to be 2020 picks involved.

A late round pick, sure.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I want SJs 2021 1st

 

[Gecklund]

I want SJs 2021 1st

And we want Kaprisov. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

 

[DRAGO 18]

What is the Sharks (apparent) fascination with Dubnyk and Donato?

Kingerski knows bunk, but if San Jose gives a first up for Dubnyk, Doug Wilson has truly lost it.

 

[Gecklund]

Kingerski knows bunk, but if San Jose gives a first up for Dubnyk, Doug Wilson has truly lost it.

Doug Wilson said he wasn’t moving the first for anything realistic. It’s on the last page.

 

[Merrrlin]

If the Sharks pay a 1st...just wow. I don't believe that's a legit rumor.