Friedman: Devan Dubynk to the Sharks being worked on

[MMC]

 

[Legion34]

This would clear a lot of cap for the Wild to take MAF's full salary.

Why do I get the feeling Greenway is going back as the sweetener with Dubnyk.

hmmm that’s possible.
But why would they take him there are better cheaper younger available

 

[FerklundCGY]

Dubnyk and Jones had a combined Goals Saved Above average of -31.24 last season in a combined 4,025 minutes, which translates to 67 games. Oof.

They ranked 2nd and 5th worst in the NHL in GSAA/60 among goalies with at least 20 games played.

Have fun, Sharks. Gonna be a field day for the opposition

 

[Bazeek]

This would clear a lot of cap for the Wild to take MAF's full salary.

Why do I get the feeling Greenway is going back as the sweetener with Dubnyk.

I doubt Greenway's on the table here, but if we somehow offload Dubnyk without paying anything but some retention I fully expect karma to slap us right in the face with Fleury. I wouldn't even mind it if it wasn't for the extra year on his deal.

 

[CupInSIX]

If the incentives are right.

I would do MAF for V. Rask straight up before the UFA period opens.

 

[Super Cake]

I would do MAF for V. Rask straight up before the UFA period opens.

As a Knights fan, the Knights would have to add a sweetener in order for the Wild to take on his full salary.

 

[AKL]

This would clear a lot of cap for the Wild to take MAF's full salary.

Why do I get the feeling Greenway is going back as the sweetener with Dubnyk.

Probably cause you don't know a whole lot about the Wild.

If Greenway is the sweetener for Dubnyk, gotta believe Krebs is the sweetener for Fleury.

 

[Bazeek]

As a Knights fan, the Knights would have to add a sweetener in order for the Wild to take on his full salary.

...that's not completely uninteresting.

 

[Batrous]

I can't see the Sharks giving up much for Dubnyk given how things went for him in Minnesota.

I also think that if the Sharks want to pick up a Goalie this offseason they would have younger and better options to pick from.

But at this point denial that the window is closed for the Sharks wouldn't surprise me at this point.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

This type of stacking of teams needs to be stopped!
Jones-Dubnyk is as bad as Lebron/Anthony Davis.

 

[CupInSIX]

As a Knights fan, the Knights would have to add a sweetener in order for the Wild to take on his full salary.

Taking Rask back is sweet enough.

 

[AKL]

I doubt Greenway's on the table here, but if we somehow offload Dubnyk without paying anything but some retention I fully expect karma to slap us right in the face with Fleury. I wouldn't even mind it if it wasn't for the extra year on his deal.

The other thing I'm curious about is what else could need to be discussed. Are they still trying to figure out how much retention should happen? Which pick goes to who with how much retention? Where's the disagreement. This move doesn't feel like it should take this long.

 

[Bazeek]

The other thing I'm curious about is what else could need to be discussed. Are they still trying to figure out how much retention should happen? Which pick goes to who with how much retention? Where's the disagreement. This move doesn't feel like it should take this long.

Another good point.... all I can think is that it's something like Sorensen coming back and Guerin wants to line up a Donato trade before that happens, whether it's with San Jose or someone else. Otherwise I agree, the cap/money aspect here isn't complicated like the Parise deal would have been.

 

[Reggae Shark]

Taking Jones back without getting Hertl is a fireable offense right?

omg...........

 

[Bazeek]

Taking Rask back is sweet enough.

In a vacuum I agree, but the difference between Fleury and Rask is urgency. They're both bad contracts for serviceable players, but Rask's badness is spread out over multiple years while Fleury's is more acute. To a team like Vegas, that's cap-constrained and looking to compete, there might be more motivation than there would be for Minnesota. Rask isn't ideal, but he's an okay depth forward and the cap space doesn't bother us at all next year.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

omg...........

Take a breath. It's not what you think it is.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

In a vacuum I agree, but the difference between Fleury and Rask is urgency. They're both bad contracts for serviceable players, but Rask's badness is spread out over multiple years while Fleury's is more acute. To a team like Vegas, that's cap-constrained and looking to compete, there might be more motivation than there would be for Minnesota. Rask isn't ideal, but he's an okay depth forward and the cap space doesn't bother us at all next year.

Pretty sure both have the same number of years remaining.

 

[AKL]

In a vacuum I agree, but the difference between Fleury and Rask is urgency. They're both bad contracts for serviceable players, but Rask's badness is spread out over multiple years while Fleury's is more acute. To a team like Vegas, that's cap-constrained and looking to compete, there might be more motivation than there would be for Minnesota. Rask isn't ideal, but he's an okay depth forward and the cap space doesn't bother us at all next year.

They both have two years, no?

I agree about Vegas being constrained by Fleury vs. Minnesota not being constrained by Rask though.

 

[Bazeek]

Pretty sure both have the same number of years remaining.

...well then. Time flies when you're having fun, doesn't it? In that case we definitely need a sweetener.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think I'd still need a sweetener in a Fleury/Rask deal, but it probably wouldn't be too outrageous.

 

[AKL]

I think I'd still need a sweetener in a Fleury/Rask deal, but it probably wouldn't be too outrageous.

Agreed. I'd actually rather just take Fleury's full hit on without sending a cap dump back, and figure out what else needs to be included on each side to get Krebs or Glass, if I had my choice.

 

[exporta]

The other thing I'm curious about is what else could need to be discussed. Are they still trying to figure out how much retention should happen? Which pick goes to who with how much retention? Where's the disagreement. This move doesn't feel like it should take this long.

Probably Minnesota talking with other teams on who they want, wouldn't be surprised if Guerin was working on something to get a goalie out of Pittsburg.

 

[AKL]

Probably Minnesota talking with other teams on who they want, wouldn't be surprised if Guerin was working on something to get a goalie out of Pittsburg.

I don't see why that would hold up a Dubnyk trade.

 

[Bazeek]

Probably Minnesota talking with other teams on who they want, wouldn't be surprised if Guerin was working on something to get a goalie out of Pittsburg.

Whatever one thinks of Russo, he seems pretty sure that Guerin's not sniffing around Pittsburgh's goalies.

 

[57special]

To be fair, Rask isn't completely crap. He can do a creditable 4C. He goes out, skates around, knows how to take a faceoff, how to do a shift change. He had one incredible "Wennberg" moment last year on a goal.