luongo321
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Technically, you're talking about tertiary scoring.
Screw tertiary. We need quaternary scoring. If weise isn't putting up ppg, blow this team up! FIRE AV!
Technically, you're talking about tertiary scoring.
Technically, you're talking about tertiary scoring.
No, I'm talking about secondary scoring. Primarily, we rely on the twins, Burrows, Kesler and Edler to provide our offence. The next group of players provide secondary scoring... the rest are just trying not to get scored on. I don't think anyone refers to secondary scoring as coming directly from the second line... do they?
You've implicitly added Roy to the list of primary scorers with your previous post. It's spilling over into 2 lines. How many primary scorers does this team have?
No, I'm talking about secondary scoring. Primarily, we rely on the twins, Burrows, Kesler and Edler to provide our offence. The next group of players provide secondary scoring... the rest are just trying not to get scored on. I don't think anyone refers to secondary scoring as coming directly from the second line... do they?
Roy, Raymond, Hansen Higgins, Bieksa and Garrison provide secondary offense. Secondary scoring imo is scoring that doesn't come from your top players which is your top line plus maybe a couple players. I don't think our secondary scoring is bad tbh, I think it's quite good
Not enough?
I don't care to argue about it. I'm not referring to lines at all when I talk primary and secondary scoring... I don't think anyone else is either.
It can be good. If you saddle Higgins and Hansen/Kassian with Lapierre/Schroeder/Ebbet... not so much.
what teams have more? Chicago? Pittsburgh? Past that I don't see any teams with more "primary scorers"
Any team is forced to downgrade when they run into injuries, when healthy we have Raymond, Kassian, Hansen and Higgins as our wingers for our second and third line. On par with the elite teams imo.
what teams have more? Chicago? Pittsburgh? Past that I don't see any teams with more "primary scorers"
I like our winger depth. I'm not sure you're even reading what I'm writing.
Boston, Anaheim, LA. That's if that broad definition of "primary scorers" is used.
I am, you were against putting Roy on the second line because it would ruin our secondary scoring. I would argue that our wingers could carry a line with Ebbett/Schroeder as the centre so we could have a better 1-2 punch.
I don't know where to draw the line between primary and secondary.
Ebbett and Schroeder have both had opportunities in the regular season to contribute, neither has done so for more than a game or two at a time. I fail to see how that's going to turn around in the playoffs.
Also, I didn't say it would ruin secondary scoring, I said it ruins the chance of the third line to contribute to it. The difference between Higgins/Roy/Kassian and Higgins/plug/Kassian is huge. Huge.
Completely disagree. Playing Roy on the second line gives the third line almost no chance to score. That's a complete waste when you have quality wingers like Higgins, Hansen, Raymond and to some degree Kassian, who can all help with secondary scoring.
Third line centres don't often provide much offense league wide
I think of them in units. I don't have primary scorers spread out over different units.I have a narrow list of primary scorers on the Canucks. The Sedins. Burrows is secondary. He complements the Sedins very well but he's secondary. Everyone else is secondary also.
My definition, of course.
For cup winners they often do. Kelly, Bolland, Staal, Hudler and Pahlsson all put up .5ppg or close to it on their Stanley cup runs.
Ebbett and Schroeder have both had opportunities in the regular season to contribute, neither has done so for more than a game or two at a time. I fail to see how that's going to turn around in the playoffs.
Also, I didn't say it would ruin secondary scoring, I said it ruins the chance of the third line to contribute to it. The difference between Higgins/Roy/Kassian and Higgins/plug/Kassian is huge. Huge.
Roy/Kesler/Hansen is better than Raymond/Kesler/Hansen but the difference isn't nearly as big.
One thing that should have been made clear this year is that a line with no centre has no chance.
Wouldn't it be a bit much to expect him to go from hip surgery to the NHL in one offseason?
-Kelly put up good numbers in the POs but had 28 in the regular season. In that same playoff though, Lucic only scored 12 points, so it seems as there is a trade off.
If we separate Roy and Kesler, that would mean we should have to split up the ES-minutes among those two, which could be 12-13 minutes each if split evenly. Put them together, and they could be out for 15 minutes a piece on ES, while the third line gets 10 maybe.
Why wouldn't you give them both 15 and take the ice time away from the 4th line? .