Prospect Info: Dawson Mercer (#18 pick - 2020 draft)

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

10 points in 9 games, not a good season to date with Chicoutimi, shots/game is also down. Outside Mukhamadullin it has been a poor year offensively for our prospects.

talk about a weird conclusion to draw, especially THIS year lol

Christ.

 

[Guadana]

10 points in 9 games, not a good season to date with Chicoutimi, shots/game is also down. Outside Mukhamadullin it has been a poor year offensively for our prospects.

Thompson has a pretty good year. He isn`t Cofield but he is best providence player in g and p. Moynihan has a good year too.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

talk about a weird conclusion to draw, especially THIS year lol

Christ.

Weird or not, its true. A late birthday drafted in the top 20 should be torching the QMJHL. This isn't a case of puck luck either. I did love him at the WJC, his playmaking skills left a little to be desired

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Weird or not, its true. A late birthday drafted in the top 20 should be torching the QMJHL. This isn't a case of puck luck either. I did love him at the WJC, his playmaking skills left a little to be desired

With all due respect , I took some heat on here when I said this last time but what thing I learned over the years lurking this site was that your assessment/predictions on players has been way off many times.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

talk about a weird conclusion to draw, especially THIS year lol

Christ.

Chicoutimi plays on an Olympic sized ice rink too. It has been statistically proven scoring is lower for their home games and players point totals dip a bit as a result. I'm not worried about Mercer. 10 points in 9 games isnt awful considering this crazy season the QMJHL has had so far.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

With all due respect , I took some heat on here when I said this last time but what thing I learned over the years lurking this site was that your assessment/predictions on players has been way off many times.

What assessment am I way off on here? I am pointing out the obvious, you just don't want to hear it.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Chicoutimi plays on an Olympic sized ice rink too. It has been statistically proven scoring is lower for their home games and players point totals dip a bit as a result. I'm not worried about Mercer. 10 points in 9 games isnt awful considering this crazy season the QMJHL has had so far.

Keep making excuses, Lapierre isn't having issues. This could quickly change but it's something to monitor.

 

[My3Sons]

Keep making excuses, Lapierre isn't having issues.

I think it's hard to draw any conclusions from such small sample sizes. As always, there are ways to slice the stats that differ. Lapierre has more assists, no questions, but he has 4 goals in 7 games while Mercer has 5 goals in 9 games. That's fairly close. Their age is close enough by a few months that again it seems like a small sample size difference. No question Mercer isn't tearing it up, but I think you still have to give guys a pass this season based on the weird scheduling. Mercer is also more of a two way player and on a bigger rink may have more heavy lifting to do. Without watching the games it's hard to know.

 

[Blackjack]

Is anyone watching these games? I mean, if someone is and Mercer is playing like Palmieri out there, that's one thing, but if this is all based on ppg stats over a dozen games...

 

[Cheddabombs]

It's been 9 games lol.

Thompson was having a rather pedestrian year, just looking at the scoresheet, and then bam he has a 5 point game and he's just under a PPG again. Things can change in literally one game at this stage. Having said that, I'm not watching his games and I couldn't tell you how he actually looks out there.

 

[Triumph]

Weird or not, its true. A late birthday drafted in the top 20 should be torching the QMJHL. This isn't a case of puck luck either. I did love him at the WJC, his playmaking skills left a little to be desired

Should be, but 10 points in 9 games isn't cause for alarm, and it may well be a case of puck luck, just one that's not immediately obvious. Strength of schedule could also be an issue. Obviously you can't just throw these numbers out but I'm not going to look at 2020-21 stats as that indicative of anything because of what's going on.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Is anyone watching these games? I mean, if someone is and Mercer is playing like Palmieri out there, that's one thing, but if this is all based on ppg stats over a dozen games...

I'm not watching the games, a simple observation from his PPG and shot totals compared to Lapierre.

The notion about his passing came from watching every minute at the WJC, he passes the puck into traffic far too much for my liking. Between that and his skating, they are really my only two complaints.

 

[My3Sons]

I'm not watching the games, a simple observation from his PPG and shot totals compared to Lapierre.

The notion about his passing came from watching every minute at the WJC, he passes the puck into traffic far too much for my liking. Between that and his skating, they are really my only two complaints.

Both valid criticisms since you watched him. He's a hard working kid by all accounts and I expect the skating issues to be cleaned up along the way. We'll have to see about the passing issues which can be trickier.

 

[Blackjack]

Honestly, I think we're a little on edge with our forward prospects right now. Seeing Holtz stall out a bit in the Swedish league, Mercer with low scoring numbers in the Q, and Thompson with low scoring numbers until his latest game, those are our top 3 forward prospects aside from Foote who isn't playing.

I get it, it's frustrating to see what Lundell and Jarvis are doing, but other '20s have had slow starts too. Amirov barely has more points than Muk despite playing on the same team, and Raymond isn't scoring a ton either. But I think we just need to let it play out. Even teenagers run hot and cool, or have a bad year. Doesn't change who they are as a player.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

I don't read too much into his points so far in the QMJHL other than the assertions that he'd be in the NHL next year by some here seem premature. Give him time, the NHL is incredibly hard, especially for 20 year olds that basically didn't get to play hockey at all the year before.

 

[Guttersniped]

I'm not watching the games, a simple observation from his PPG and shot totals compared to Lapierre.

The notion about his passing came from watching every minute at the WJC, he passes the puck into traffic far too much for my liking. Between that and his skating, they are really my only two complaints.

I do think people are being a little overly sensitive here. Also, is it a surprise if a healthy Lapierre out scores him? He only fell to 22nd due to his injury history.

That said, look at Mercer’s stats from 2019-20, his scoring took a hit there too. Why I can’t say.

Drummondville 26GP 18G 24A 42 points
Chicoutimi 16GP 6G 12A 18 points

But I don’t see that much of a difference in shots totals with Lapierre going by the stats on the QMJHL site. They have shots on goal and “dangerous shots” (under the show/hide tab)

Lapierre 7GP 24SOG 13DS
Mercer 9GP 30SOG 21DS

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[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Mercer was one of Canada's best players in the WJC

its so hard to judge a player based on these small sample sizes one way or the other though, but saying our prospects have had a down year overall is just a weird hill to die on. Holtz has already matched his point totals from last year in way less games, as an example.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Mercer was one of Canada's best players in the WJC

its so hard to judge a player based on these small sample sizes one way or the other though, but saying our prospects have had a down year overall is just a weird hill to die on. Holtz has already matched his point totals from last year in way less games, as an example.

Holtz was the example you used? Quickly approaching half a point per game with a disappointing WJC. He got off to a nice start but has been ice cold since the WJC. Confidence or no confidence, it has been a rough Draft+1 season.

With Mercer it is simply an observation. I haven't seen him play outside the WJC so maybe his linemates are running quite cold and he has hit a few posts. I really like him as a prospect and praised him more than most at the WJC. I just think between the role he was given at the WJC and his small sample size in the QMJHL, maybe his offensive playmaking ceiling isn't that high.

 

[glenwo2]

Holtz was the example you used? Quickly approaching half a point per game with a disappointing WJC. He got off to a nice start but has been ice cold since the WJC. Confidence or no confidence, it has been a rough Draft+1 season.

With Mercer it is simply an observation. I haven't seen him play outside the WJC so maybe his linemates are running quite cold and he has hit a few posts. I really like him as a prospect and praised him more than most at the WJC. I just think between the role he was given at the WJC and his small sample size in the QMJHL, maybe his offensive playmaking ceiling isn't that high.

Who did you want instead of Holtz in the spot the Devils picked, Jason?

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Who did you want instead of Holtz in the spot the Devils picked, Jason?

Rossi then Perfetti. Amirov wasn't far off.

 

[glenwo2]

Rossi then Perfetti. Amirov wasn't far off.

Tbh, I wanted Rossi too.

But hindsight being what it now is, we'd be in the situation where goddamn COVID may wreck a young player's future.

I would've been okay with Perfetti, too.

Amirov? eh. Doesn't do a thing for me.

 

[Call Me Al]

way way way too soon to play draft revisionist

 

[Oneiro]

Not discounting anything that's been said here, but this year is going to produce a lot of weirdness from a development and production standpoint. Would not be surprised if we see a greater number of risers and fallers over the next two drafts at minimum, after relatively steady rankings for some time.

I'm one of those who thought Mercer might make the team next season, based on his WJC and what the team lacks. Still think that's the case if we move on from some veterans but we'll see.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

9 games?

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

way way way too soon to play draft revisionist

Nobody is playing draft revisionist, simply assessing the picks to date. You would be stupid not to.