Note in Simmons column in Tor Sun that Kings were looking at Tippett if Suter hadn't re-signed before Tippett signed extension.
Note in Simmons column in Tor Sun that Kings were looking at Tippett if Suter hadn't re-signed before Tippett signed extension.
Nah he'd stay in the booth, agm and color guy, first ever.
Note in Simmons column in Tor Sun that Kings were looking at Tippett if Suter hadn't re-signed before Tippett signed extension.
Gee, the Coyotes are so lucky.
I thought DT still had a year on his deal before the extension?
Yeah, but who with any sort of experience is going to want to play second fiddle to Chayka? My guess is that if they do hire an AGM it's going to be someone young and off the reservation, and they'll make lots of noise about how they're impressed with his intelligence if not his dues paid in the sport, etc. etc. etc.
I could be wrong. Maybe Les Jackson decides that being a mentor sounds fun. But thus far IA has exactly one hire under their belts, and said hire went from basically running spreadsheets to NHL GM in less than a year.
There are only 30 AGM jobs in the NHL. They can find somebody qualified for this position. Being an AGM is not rocket science. Any negotiations over contract dollars or term is really about value from the teams perspective and the player perspective. Making sure you don't over pay and understanding what you are getting is the key, not that hard, and is actually a very analytical approach.
There are only 30 AGM jobs in the NHL. They can find somebody qualified for this position. Being an AGM is not rocket science. Any negotiations over contract dollars or term is really about value from the teams perspective and the player perspective. Making sure you don't over pay and understanding what you are getting is the key, not that hard, and is actually a very analytical approach.
I have to disagree with you here Cobra. It is no where as easy as you think, and if it was, you or I could do it, which we can't.
We aren't qualified to do it. There are way more then 30 guys in the USA qualified to do the job, that is my point. It won't be hard to find the right fit.
It proves how respected he is. Something you and others can't seem to grasp.
And sure enough, if Nash got the position, the Pro-Tippett crowd will do their worst to defend such a move. "Tippett is such a great mind of Talent" "Nothing wrong with this hire as Nash knows his hockey while you keyboard GM's know nothing".
And so we wait until Moss comes back to sign a 5 year $30 million deal as he improved on his good guy image in Switzerland.
I'm guessing you'd consider me Pro Tippett, and this idea of blind support is ridiculous.
I, and I'm guessing many others you consider Pro Tippett don't think in that bizarre fashion. The anti-Tipp crowd is a lot more ideological in how they view the team.
I, like others, defend Tipp with real reasons. While a lot(not all) of the anti-tipp crowd, is based on opinions that don't consider the whole picture, or opinions that people have formed over speculation.
Like the idea that he is a horrendous coach just because he's missed the playoffs for 4 years, completely ignoring the circumstances of the last 4 years......
Cool, let's keep drawing battle lines like this. Why not make separate threads while we're at it? This is exactly what forum 40 needs more of - people generalizing and painting others with broad strokes.
Making the strawman argument that people think he's a "horrendous" coach isn't demonstrating a lot of self-awareness or understanding on your part. Nobody is making that argument. Just the same, some of the circumstances can be used against him (like lobbying for Ribeiro) rather than as a defense of his increasingly bad results.
I'd love to hear what you consider a 'real' reason vs what is speculation.
He'd be a pretty good fit in LA. If they had a list of options, he'd have to be on it. That seems like a non event.
Still doesn't make him a good coach or GM for the Coyotes, Jake
Quite hypocritical your first paragraph, no?
It isn't a strawman argument. There have been many examples of people talking about why they think Tipp is a bad coach. Was my choice of the word horrendous a bit of a hyperbole? Yes. But it is not a strawman argument.
Signing Ribeiro alone did not make that roster good no matter what expectations Tipp or DM had of him. Could've been Crosby instead of Riberio and that roster would've been weak.
Currently I do not see there really being any strong, real critiques of his coaching. He's coming off a year where the team exceeded expectations. There are some critques that aren't coaching related that are valid like his salary/contract.
Speculation comes when people seem to take it as fact that Tipp wants to throw the prospect pool away for success in the next couple years. `
On this forum I really do not see many good points as to why people are so Anti-Tipp. It seems more like an ideology people have bought it into and have become way too biased to look at it subjectively.
Quite hypocritical your first paragraph, no?
It isn't a strawman argument. There have been many examples of people talking about why they think Tipp is a bad coach. Was my choice of the word horrendous a bit of a hyperbole? Yes. But it is not a strawman argument.
Signing Ribeiro alone did not make that roster good no matter what expectations Tipp or DM had of him. Could've been Crosby instead of Riberio and that roster would've been weak.
Currently I do not see there really being any strong, real critiques of his coaching. He's coming off a year where the team exceeded expectations.
Quite hypocritical your first paragraph, no?
It isn't a strawman argument. There have been many examples of people talking about why they think Tipp is a bad coach. Was my choice of the word horrendous a bit of a hyperbole? Yes. But it is not a strawman argument.
Signing Ribeiro alone did not make that roster good no matter what expectations Tipp or DM had of him. Could've been Crosby instead of Riberio and that roster would've been weak.
Currently I do not see there really being any strong, real critiques of his coaching. He's coming off a year where the team exceeded expectations. There are some critques that aren't coaching related that are valid like his salary/contract.
Speculation comes when people seem to take it as fact that Tipp wants to throw the prospect pool away for success in the next couple years. `
On this forum I really do not see many good points as to why people are so Anti-Tipp. It seems more like an ideology people have bought it into and have become way too biased to look at it subjectively.
There are only a handful of posters that are anti Tip, but they post the same biased negative comments no matter what, over and over again. If the Coyotes win the pacific next year and have 100 points, they will still hate Tip. The argument will be that the team did well in spite of him.
I liked DM but understand the change in philosophy, and changes in management. I like Tip because his teams have mostly met or beat expectations, like last year. If Tip's team misses expectations for a few years, he will get shot like BB and TMac, as he should. In spite of the constant barrage of negative posts, I think the team has a bright future on the ice for the next handful of years.
If we make the playoffs next year it'll be don moloneys credit. Not tipps.
If we make the playoffs next year it'll be don moloneys credit. Not tipps.