Confirmed with Link: Dave Tippett signs 5-year contract extension

[ClassLessCoyote]

I disagree. Do you really think Doan would have come back for another year if he thought the ownership was not stable or the coaches clueless? He doesn't need the frustration or the money at this time in his career. I have heard him more than once state how great DT and NB are as coaches. Doan says it like it is, he doesn't hold no punches and he doesn't have to at this stage in his career. I would take his opinion over anyone on these boards. I haven't heard mention Playfair though.

Uh, WTF does Shane Doan have to do with RT said?

 

[Jakey53]

Uh, WTF does Shane Doan have to do with RT said?

Uh, WTF, how can you not understand?

 

[kihekah19*]

Uh, WTF, how can you not understand?

I can't even laugh, it's so absurd.

 

[rt]

Shane Doan has literally never said anything publicly negative about anyone ever. Worst example of "telling it like it is" person possible. He wants to make millions playing professional hockey. He doesn't want to move. This means he has literally one option for employer.

 

[kihekah19*]

Shane Doan has literally never said anything publicly negative about anyone ever. Worst example of "telling it like it is" person possible. He wants to make millions playing professional hockey. He doesn't want to move. This means he has literally one option for employer.

It seems he would choose to say nothing however, as opposed to being complimentary.

Wouldn't you agree?

 

[TheLegend]

Shane Doan wants to play hockey because he loves the game. It's no longer about getting cups or awards. It's about having fun and as long as he sees he can do that he'll play for whomever will let him.

 

[rt]

Shane Doan wants to play hockey because he loves the game. It's no longer about getting cups or awards. It's about having fun and as long as he sees he can do that he'll play for whomever will let him.

Incorrect. He won't play for anyone outside of Arizona. He'd retire before he'd leave.

 

[TheLegend]

Incorrect. He won't play for anyone outside of Arizona. He'd retire before he'd leave.

You don't know that. If his family was okay with it he'd go. Besides, I didn't specify outside of AZ did I??

First rule.... Never assume.

 

[Jakey53]

Shane Doan wants to play hockey because he loves the game. It's no longer about getting cups or awards. It's about having fun and as long as he sees he can do that he'll play for whomever will let him.

You don't know that. If his family was okay with it he'd go. Besides, I didn't specify outside of AZ did I??

First rule.... Never assume.

You assumed he no longer wants a cup or rewards.
IF Doan didn't like what was happening with the FO or if he didn't like DT as coach he would just retire. He doesn't need the grieve, and besides, he said he was having fun, and I doubt you can do that if you don't like the coach. My opinion.

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

You assumed he no longer wants a cup or rewards.
IF Doan didn't like what was happening with the FO or if he didn't like DT as coach he would just retire. He doesn't need the grieve, and besides, he said he was having fun, and I doubt you can do that if you don't like the coach. My opinion.

You assume that Doan didn't have any other options besides retirement or Coyotes and this is incorrect seeing that in the past that Vancouver was an option.

Also, again, WTF does Doan have to do with what rt said a few posts ago?

 

[The Feckless Puck]

No, but the results would show he's a fairly mediocre coach. The fat payday he just got makes his mediocrity even more apparent as people look for a way to justify such a large raise.

Tippett is not a mediocre coach. He's a good coach. Not a great one, but a good one.

The fat payday he got is because IceArizona has a real problem negotiating with or signing deals with anyone in the hockey fraternity. They know it. Why else would they throw so much money at Tip? Because they know they likely aren't in the running for anyone else of any quality. Why make Drummond president of hockey ops? Because they have no shot at anyone else. Why name Chayka as GM when they said they wanted to talk to other candidates? Because they had no shot at those other guys.

I would not be surprised at all if they end up without an experienced AGM to back up Chayka. Maybe, though, they'll be able to BS someone into taking the gig. We'll see.

But they threw Tippett the reins and gave him the bank because they had no other option.

 

[Jakey53]

You assume that Doan didn't have any other options besides retirement or Coyotes and this is incorrect seeing that in the past that Vancouver was an option.

Also, again, WTF does Doan have to do with what rt said a few posts ago?

Unbelievable. Like talking to a brick wall.

 

[kihekah19*]

Tippett is not a mediocre coach. He's a good coach. Not a great one, but a good one.

The fat payday he got is because IceArizona has a real problem negotiating with or signing deals with anyone in the hockey fraternity. They know it. Why else would they throw so much money at Tip? Because they know they likely aren't in the running for anyone else of any quality. Why make Drummond president of hockey ops? Because they have no shot at anyone else. Why name Chayka as GM when they said they wanted to talk to other candidates? Because they had no shot at those other guys.

I would not be surprised at all if they end up without an experienced AGM to back up Chayka. Maybe, though, they'll be able to BS someone into taking the gig. We'll see.

But they threw Tippett the reins and gave him the bank because they had no other option.

Sad, but most likely true.

 

[Jakey53]

Tippett is not a mediocre coach. He's a good coach. Not a great one, but a good one.

The fat payday he got is because IceArizona has a real problem negotiating with or signing deals with anyone in the hockey fraternity. They know it. Why else would they throw so much money at Tip? Because they know they likely aren't in the running for anyone else of any quality. Why make Drummond president of hockey ops? Because they have no shot at anyone else. Why name Chayka as GM when they said they wanted to talk to other candidates? Because they had no shot at those other guys.

I would not be surprised at all if they end up without an experienced AGM to back up Chayka. Maybe, though, they'll be able to BS someone into taking the gig. We'll see.

But they threw Tippett the reins and gave him the bank because they had no other option.

I don't think that is true. Let's wait until the dust settles before we all jump to pie in the sky conclusions. NHL FO positions are very prestigious jobs and all pay very well. There will always be young up and comers that have great qualifications ready for a shot.

 

[kihekah19*]

I don't think that is true. Let's wait until the dust settles before we all jump to pie in the sky conclusions. NHL FO positions are very prestigious jobs and all pay very well. There will always be young up and comers that have great qualifications ready for a shot.

Well, we can't be certain how / why Chayka got there. Lets hope he's as impressive as they're telling us.

 

[Plub]

I disagree. Do you really think Doan would have come back for another year if he thought the ownership was not stable or the coaches clueless? He doesn't need the frustration or the money at this time in his career. I have heard him more than once state how great DT and NB are as coaches. Doan says it like it is, he doesn't hold no punches and he doesn't have to at this stage in his career. I would take his opinion over anyone on these boards. I haven't heard mention Playfair though.

Saying that Doan doesn't hold punches is pure speculation on your part, unless you can prove he holds no punches?

Also, far more players have praised NB than DT, curious, no?

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I don't think that is true. Let's wait until the dust settles before we all jump to pie in the sky conclusions. NHL FO positions are very prestigious jobs and all pay very well. There will always be young up and comers that have great qualifications ready for a shot.

Yeah, but who with any sort of experience is going to want to play second fiddle to Chayka? My guess is that if they do hire an AGM it's going to be someone young and off the reservation, and they'll make lots of noise about how they're impressed with his intelligence if not his dues paid in the sport, etc. etc. etc.

I could be wrong. Maybe Les Jackson decides that being a mentor sounds fun. But thus far IA has exactly one hire under their belts, and said hire went from basically running spreadsheets to NHL GM in less than a year.

 

[Plub]

Tippett is not a mediocre coach. He's a good coach. Not a great one, but a good one.

The fat payday he got is because IceArizona has a real problem negotiating with or signing deals with anyone in the hockey fraternity. They know it. Why else would they throw so much money at Tip? Because they know they likely aren't in the running for anyone else of any quality. Why make Drummond president of hockey ops? Because they have no shot at anyone else. Why name Chayka as GM when they said they wanted to talk to other candidates? Because they had no shot at those other guys.

I would not be surprised at all if they end up without an experienced AGM to back up Chayka. Maybe, though, they'll be able to BS someone into taking the gig. We'll see.

But they threw Tippett the reins and gave him the bank because they had no other option.

I think it would have been easier to get a GM to come here if our owners didn't immediately say DT would be getting more say in everything including player personnel. Why would they say this before even talking to GMs and seeing who they could get? The second a GM knows they are going to answer to a coach -- their subordinate -- they are going to be far more inclined to go elsewhere. No GM wants to answer to the coach, it is supposed to be the other way around.

 

[Ebb]

This just in...

Tyson Nash to serve as new AGM for the Arizona Coyotes. "After a long and diligent search and multiple interviews with some of the more prestigious options available, we realize that Nasher is the best option for the team moving forward and shows dedication to our model going forward: Cooperation.Communication.Innovation"

 

[Matias Maccete]

This just in...

Tyson Nash to serve as new AGM for the Arizona Coyotes. "After a long and diligent search and multiple interviews with some of the more prestigious options available, we realize that Nasher is the best option for the team moving forward and shows dedication to our model going forward: Cooperation.Communication.Innovation"

A few months ago I would've known for sure this is a joke. Today I'm not 100% sure.

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

A few months ago I would've known for sure this is a joke. Today I'm not 100% sure.

And sure enough, if Nash got the position, the Pro-Tippett crowd will do their worst to defend such a move. "Tippett is such a great mind of Talent" "Nothing wrong with this hire as Nash knows his hockey while you keyboard GM's know nothing".

And so we wait until Moss comes back to sign a 5 year $30 million deal as he improved on his good guy image in Switzerland.

 

[Etch]

I'd actually prefer Nash as AGM than have to listen to him commentate every game

Might as well make this thing as entertaining as possible. "And why wouldn't we!?"

 

[The Feckless Puck]

This just in...

Tyson Nash to serve as new AGM for the Arizona Coyotes. "After a long and diligent search and multiple interviews with some of the more prestigious options available, we realize that Nasher is the best option for the team moving forward and shows dedication to our model going forward: Cooperation.Communication.Innovation"

"Yah, Chayks, let's draft that boy McLeod - he brings da pizza with da pepperonis!"

I'd actually be okay with this because it'd get Nash out of the booth.

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

And due to budget restrictions, Nash will be replaced with Kidcaster full-time.

 

[Matias Maccete]

Nah he'd stay in the booth, agm and color guy, first ever.