Player Discussion Danton Heinen VII

[GloryDaze4877]

Really strong game from Heinen today. One bad turnover in the 2nd when he should have just chipped it in instead of trying to make a play.

Other than that he was very good, just couldn’t buy one. Gibson robbed him on the delayed penalty in the 1st after the 3rd line drew the call. He created a great chance on that self dump-in when Coyle fed Ritchie. On that one shift in the 3rd he had a shot go 5 hole but deflect wide, and also had the wrap around and fed McAvoy. My wife came in with groceries and I was helping put them away, but a few minutes later I thought I saw him steal a puck in the ANA zone and get a good chance?

If he keeps it up, the points will come.

 

[Estlin]

I doubt it’s him not learning to do it and more Cassidy just not giving him a chance cause of bergy/Marchand and then getting minutes for the 4th liners

Yeah, I meant that I don't understand why coaches don't have more players on the team learn to kill penalties.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

It is honestly astounding to me that he isn’t on the penalty kill. This doesn’t just happen mysteriously over that large of a sample size.

it is pretty incredible that this organization (different coach, to be fair) tried to make Zac Rinaldo a PKer, but won't give Heinen a real shot.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Really strong game from Heinen today. One bad turnover in the 2nd when he should have just chipped it in instead of trying to make a play.

Other than that he was very good, just couldn’t buy one. Gibson robbed him on the delayed penalty in the 1st after the 3rd line drew the call. He created a great chance on that self dump-in when Coyle fed Ritchie. On that one shift in the 3rd he had a shot go 5 hole but deflect wide, and also had the wrap around and fed McAvoy. My wife came in with groceries and I was helping put them away, but a few minutes later I thought I saw him steal a puck in the ANA zone and get a good chance?

If he keeps it up, the points will come.

full disclosure: didn't see the game today

I'm not a Heinen hater like some. I recognize that he checks a lot of important boxes in terms of quality of play. But man, I really need this guy to start producing. I think even just as an HF poster, I don't know if I can take another full season of this guy putting up monster advanced stats along with a "measly" 30 points. It would do a lot for this team and my sanity if he would put up some offensive numbers that match his other stats.

I still prefer him with Marchand & Bergeron (and then JDB/Krejci/Pasta) btw. If that line is going to keep matching up vs other top lines I'd rather it be a shutdown line & let Pasta feast on 2nd line competition. Yes I realize Pasta just scored 4 goals playing on line 1, but they won't all be that easy. Until they get a legit 2nd line RW this team should balance out the attack more.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

i member one of my more clueless hottakes 4-5 years ago when i said brad marchands style of play isnt suited for success on the PP. im not heinens biggest fan, but hes smart... he can keep up with the play... he works hard... seems penalty killer material to me

honestly im not sure why he doesnt get some chance at playing center too when we do get an injury to someone like krejci to finish up a game.

if Heinen could be a center with the same results he gets now as a winger... i think hed be a much more valuable player

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

i member one of my more clueless hottakes 4-5 years ago when i said brad marchands style of play isnt suited for success on the PP. im not heinens biggest fan, but hes smart... he can keep up with the play... he works hard... seems penalty killer material to me

honestly im not sure why he doesnt get some chance at playing center too when we do get an injury to someone like krejci to finish up a game.

if Heinen could be a center with the same results he gets now as a winger... i think hed be a much more valuable player

I stopped reading after the first 8 words

 

[Over the volcano]

I stopped reading after the first 8 words

That’s when I started to be really interested

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I stopped reading after the first 8 words

that didnt require you to confess... we already know your ability to focus

 

[KrejciMVP]

Almost had a nice wrap around goal

 

[maxbme]

Almost had a nice wrap around goal

bummer he couldn't finish, but really great patience. smart play.

That shift was incredible in general

 

[Smitty93]

In an alternate universe, Heinen is kept as a center when he turned pro, solving the 3rd line C issues three years ago, and he's now a top PKer (Yes, I get those issues are gone now with Coyle here, but let a guy dream). Man, I would have loved to see that version. I don't know why they never gave him a shot at center. I assume it has to be faceoffs because, otherwise, his game is perfectly suited for it. Alas, things have still worked out, but what might have been?

 

[Ratty]

In an alternate universe, Heinen is kept as a center when he turned pro, solving the 3rd line C issues three years ago, and he's now a top PKer (Yes, I get those issues are gone now with Coyle here, but let a guy dream). Man, I would have loved to see that version. I don't know why they never gave him a shot at center. I assume it has to be faceoffs because, otherwise, his game is perfectly suited for it. Alas, things have still worked out, but what might have been?

Where do you find the statistics that place Heinen at center at U. Of Denver? Not doubting you, but the few websites I looked at show him as LW and one as RW while playing for Denver. If he did play center I’m curious about the number of games.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Almost had a nice wrap around goal

He has a lot of “almosts”, though. He worries me. He needs to bury that kind of wraparound chance. As it was happening, I kinda knew he wouldn’t. I like Heinen, but he makes it hard.

 

[Blowfish]

Heinen has looked good to me...much like everyone else "not playing the first line" he hasn't been lighting it up. The chances are there and looks very confident playing. It will come.

I want to see him back on the first and Pasta dropped to the 2nd line. He had good chemistry with Berg/March.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

He has a lot of “almosts”, though. He worries me. He needs to bury that kind of wraparound chance. As it was happening, I kinda knew he wouldn’t. I like Heinen, but he makes it hard.

They correct way to describe him:

Elite complimentary player. Perfect for 37/63.

With Krejci hurting I would like to see Coyle
with Pastrnak/DeBrusk.

 

[ON3M4N]

He has a lot of “almosts”, though. He worries me. He needs to bury that kind of wraparound chance. As it was happening, I kinda knew he wouldn’t. I like Heinen, but he makes it hard.

What? He was nearly standing still when he got the puck and then needed to do the wrap around on his backhand. I'd say 9 of 10 players in the NHL don't make that play.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Where do you find the statistics that place Heinen at center at U. Of Denver? Not doubting you, but the few websites I looked at show him as LW and one as RW while playing for Denver. If he did play center I’m curious about the number of games.

His freshman year Heinen played at Denver on a line with Trevor Moore (LW/C) and a big RW/C whose name is escaping me (believe it was Doremus). He was with Moore is sophomore year and Dylan Gambrell (C/RW) was added to that line. I have CBS sports and the Big 10 Network and got to see a good amount of Denver games both years (10-15 each season) incl playoffs.

Heinen was the primary center on both those lines, but Moore, Gambrell, and Doremus took faceoffs as well. They seemed fairly interchangeable, but Heinen took the majority of the left side draws. If you didn’t watch regularly, you may have seen him on the wing and thought that was his position.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

What? He was nearly standing still when he got the puck and then needed to do the wrap around on his backhand. I'd say 9 of 10 players in the NHL don't make that play.

When Heinen realized the wrap was not going to work, he set up McAvoy about 6 feet from the net and he missed.

As I have said before, if Heinen (and Coyle) keep playing like they are, the points will come.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

They correct way to describe him:

Elite complimentary player. Perfect for 37/63.

With Krejci hurting I would like to see Coyle
with Pastrnak/DeBrusk.

If Krejci is out, Boston should go with two offensive lines and two D lines.

63-37-43
74-13-88
20-52-14
83-26-18

What will happen:

63-37-88
74-13-83
43-26-18
20-52-14

 

[ON3M4N]

When Heinen realized the wrap was not going to work, he set up McAvoy about 6 feet from the net and he missed.

As I have said before, if Heinen (and Coyle) keep playing like they are, the points will come.

100% agree. Like I said I would love to see DeBrusk - Coyle - Heinen together if Krejci is going to miss a few games.

 

[Sheppy]

Heinen has been fine, I definitely can see some production coming soon. He's getting his chances, and he's working for them.

Gotta feeling we will see that 3rd line clicking soon.

 

[Dr Hook]

I think he actually threw a hit yesteday too. I don't know if it made the stats, but I swear I saw it.

 

[TCB]

I think he actually threw a hit yesteday too. I don't know if it made the stats, but I swear I saw it.

Yes. He did, he rubbed someone out along the boards in the offensive end behind the net, with some aggression.

 

[ODAAT]

i member one of my more clueless hottakes 4-5 years ago when i said brad marchands style of play isnt suited for success on the PP. im not heinens biggest fan, but hes smart... he can keep up with the play... he works hard... seems penalty killer material to me

honestly im not sure why he doesnt get some chance at playing center too when we do get an injury to someone like krejci to finish up a game.

if Heinen could be a center with the same results he gets now as a winger... i think hed be a much more valuable player

did he play center in College? Didn`t know that if the answer is yes

 

[Dr Hook]

Yes. He did, he rubbed someone out along the boards in the offensive end behind the net, with some aggression.

That is how I remember it too. I didn't want to be like one of those guys that swears he saw the Chupacabra Go Danton!