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you really believe that? I'd be shocked personally.
You don't feel led on?
you really believe that? I'd be shocked personally.
I think we'll get vague assurances for 10-11 months and then the team will relocate to another market out of state.
C'mon now.I think we'll get vague assurances for 10-11 months and then the team will relocate to another market out of state.
I think we'll get vague assurances for 10-11 months and then the team will relocate to another market out of state.
you really believe that? I'd be shocked personally.
The team is not moving.
Fire back with any facts you guys want, i removed my tin foil cap a couple years ago.
Why move the team now when just a couple years ago, you had the perfect chance, perfect excuse to move them? If they were going to relocate this team, it would've happened when the NHL owned us. Now suddenly we're going to move when we have ownership? You're thinking ass backwards.
Since this seems to be the core of your belief; they never had the perfect chance to move the team. First, a move as a result of a third party actor they never approved of (Balsille) would look bad and defeat the purpose of the legal battle. Second, the league hasn't really ever had to hold the bag. When they were in a situation to do so, the team was quite literally a bad vote away from moving. To relocate a team, the league needs to run out of options in a given market, as what happened in Atlanta when the only arena in town kicked them out. You also need to consider your opportunity cost aka what are other markets worth, and does the league want them to have a team.
Only recently have other cities come online to the point where they can take a team. Only recently have the Coyotes truly run out of options. Contractually speaking, this team isn't committed to the valley beyond next year, no matter how many small gestures they make you use as evidence otherwise.
We're at another (sorry) tipping point. Just because the Coyotes survived the last once by a slim margin doesn't make the team invincible, or concerned people conspiracy theorists.
I'm a realist here. I don't have unreal expectations, but for those of you who think being a realist means expecting the worse, because the worst always happens to us, need to be real on their thinking of how bad this would make the lead NHL brass if we're suddenly moved now. Why move the team now when just a couple years ago, you had the perfect chance, perfect excuse to move them? If they were going to relocate this team, it would've happened when the NHL owned us. Now suddenly we're going to move when we have ownership? You're thinking ass backwards.
If the team moved, the NHL will be under so much fire. What took you so long? Why not move them in the first place? Why talk expansion draft when you can just move a team and keep everything even at 30 teams? Why waste so much money on a team that relocated anyway? Those are decisions that get your fired. Just let go of all this relocation crap. If it was going to jappen, it would've. We wouldn't have moved in a minor league team, extended our coach out of the blue, or updated the press about anything regarding plans with ASU or Scottsdale.
Fire back with any facts you guys want, i removed my tin foil cap a couple years ago.
XX, we'll look back at this conversation and laugh in a couple years. I guarantee it.
That's the dream. But there's nothing to your guarantee but hope. No one deserves to be called a nutter for worrying at this point. It's more justified than ever.
But do people deserve to be called nutters for not worrying? (because, historically on this forum, that's the kind of thing that will happen)
But do people deserve to be called nutters for not worrying? (because, historically on this forum, that's the kind of thing that will happen)
That's the dream. But there's nothing to your guarantee but hope. No one deserves to be called a nutter for worrying at this point. It's more justified than ever.
I have supreme authority so quiet you nutter.Honestly, nobody really deserves to be called a nutter. Ideally, we should be able to discuss opinions like adults without it degenerating into name-calling, straw men, and accusing each other of being crazy/stupid/pessimistic/optimistic/etc.
Really, nobody here is an authority, so none of us should act like one.
Im not calling anyone a nutter, i said i took off my tin foil hat. I was right there with everyone!
Im not calling anyone a nutter, i said i took off my tin foil hat. I was right there with everyone!
I'm not sure I'd equate thinking this group might be full of **** to anything tin foil hat or conspiracy related. The group has moved an ahl team to Tucson, so suggesting they have and have had a sinister plan to string us along and then relocate the team is vaguely tin foily. Thinking the group may just be incompetent or in over their heads though has some basis and is pretty reasonable.
I'm not sure I'd equate thinking this group might be full of **** to anything tin foil hat or conspiracy related. The group has moved an ahl team to Tucson, so suggesting they have and have had a sinister plan to string us along and then relocate the team is vaguely tin foily. Thinking the group may just be incompetent or in over their heads though has some basis and is pretty reasonable.
Who says they are incompetent or in over their head? The posters here at hfboards? Some media guy?
Who says they are incompetent or in over their head?