COVID-19 Part V (not an election discussion topic)

[hawksrule]

Fortunately the new strain isn’t more lethal and the vaccine works just as well against it, but it is far more contagious.

 

[Hinterland]

Fortunately the new strain isn’t more lethal and the vaccine works just as well against it, but it is far more contagious.

Thing is...those corona viruses always mutate. It's the same with animals, such as cats. Almost all of them got viruses in them and they're harmless. It's the mutations killing them. There are gonna be more and more variants. There are also different ones in Denmark and South Africa. There'll be more and more popping up and if we fail to control this virus, one of them will eventually be much worse than the current ones. That's my fear anyway.

 

[BK]

But masks are bad...

Seriously though, this is why people need to keep wearing masks, quarantining, etc.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Texas Wedding Photographers Have Seen Some $#!+

Some hillrod shit

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

So, am I officially the first HF Hawks member to be vaccinated? Anyone else get their shot?

My brother in law got it. He's a cardiac stenographer at a hospital in Chicago. Wife could get it soon, but she's pregnant so I don't think she will.

Last week, some site had something where you put in your info and it gives you an estimate on where you are in line to get the vaccine. I was like 260 million, which seems fair if judging by my contributions to society, lol.

 

[Pez68]

My brother in law got it. He's a cardiac stenographer at a hospital in Chicago. Wife could get it soon, but she's pregnant so I don't think she will.

Last week, some site had something where you put in your info and it gives you an estimate on where you are in line to get the vaccine. I was like 260 million, which seems fair if judging by my contributions to society, lol.

 

[Malagahawks]

Bumping thread, I had tweeted Mayor Lightfoot just being curious but obviously got no reply. SO I thought I would ask Powers at the Athletic and to my surprise he answered quickly.

 

[chrispw1]

Today Mark's one year since the last game at the UC in front of fans, for those there that night was there the belief that it would be a year and who knows how long until the next home game with fans or full fans?

 

[EdzosCrayon]

So, am I officially the first HF Hawks member to be vaccinated? Anyone else get their shot?

I know this comment is a few months old but I got mine last Friday. Got it on the basis of being an essential worker (I'm 33) but still have conflicting feelings considering that if I was the one making the rules I'd probably go strictly based on age and comorbidities since the whole point of all of this was to not overburden the hospitals and those two groups are damn near everyone who ends up hospitalized if they get this thing. Although the other side of that argument involves the people I could potentially spread it to while at work, which is a fair point.

Anyway, got the J&J shot, and the side effects don't seem to be in the same league as the others based on my experience. Basically everyone I know who got the Pfizer or Moderna shot felt like total ass after the second dose, but I was mostly fine after my shot. My arm was sore for a while but not too much beyond that.

 

[hawksrule]

I know this comment is a few months old but I got mine last Friday. Got it on the basis of being an essential worker (I'm 33) but still have conflicting feelings considering that if I was the one making the rules I'd probably go strictly based on age and comorbidities since the whole point of all of this was to not overburden the hospitals and those two groups are damn near everyone who ends up hospitalized if they get this thing. Although the other side of that argument involves the people I could potentially spread it to while at work, which is a fair point.

Anyway, got the J&J shot, and the side effects don't seem to be in the same league as the others based on my experience. Basically everyone I know who got the Pfizer or Moderna shot felt like total ass after the second dose, but I was mostly fine after my shot. My arm was sore for a while but not too much beyond that.

You shouldn’t have any conflicting feelings, especially as an essential worker who broke no rules. Every shot in an arm is a net benefit to society.

 

[Pez68]

I know this comment is a few months old but I got mine last Friday. Got it on the basis of being an essential worker (I'm 33) but still have conflicting feelings considering that if I was the one making the rules I'd probably go strictly based on age and comorbidities since the whole point of all of this was to not overburden the hospitals and those two groups are damn near everyone who ends up hospitalized if they get this thing. Although the other side of that argument involves the people I could potentially spread it to while at work, which is a fair point.

Anyway, got the J&J shot, and the side effects don't seem to be in the same league as the others based on my experience. Basically everyone I know who got the Pfizer or Moderna shot felt like total ass after the second dose, but I was mostly fine after my shot. My arm was sore for a while but not too much beyond that.

Don't feel bad. There's way too much "vaccine guilt" happening in society, and in the media. Every single person vaccinated helps society as a whole. If you have a chance to get it, get it. Don't think twice, and do not feel guilty.

Thank you for being smart.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Don't feel bad. There's way too much "vaccine guilt" happening in society, and in the media. Every single person vaccinated helps society as a whole. If you have a chance to get it, get it. Don't think twice, and do not feel guilty.

Thank you for being smart.

I got round 1 of the Moderna today. I felt a little guilty about it, but then I remembered that if I get Covid and don’t show symptoms, that’s really bad for a lot of other people.

 

[SimpleJack]

My friend(32 years old) passed on getting the vaccine out of guilt(passing up older citizens that need it more/are at a greater risk). I understand both sides. Now its passing on it because you think its evil/bad for you that i REALLY don't understand. My mom is one of those unfortunate souls. She just doesn't seem to get it...and its very annoying.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Getting my first shot tomorrow(today). Zero guilt. Dealt with a whole bunch of bullshit including having to deal with armed government employees inquiring what I was doing out after curfew the last twelve months. I’m extremely eager to return to some normalcy.

 

[Pez68]

Getting my first shot tomorrow(today). Zero guilt. Dealt with a whole bunch of bullshit including having to deal with armed government employees inquiring what I was doing out after curfew the last twelve months. I’m extremely eager to return to some normalcy.

That's the biggest thing for me. I can't go any longer without playing hockey. I can't go any longer without socializing and hanging out with family/friends. BBQing. etc.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Must be nice to live in 'Merica.

Us getting a shot up here isn't even in sights. Not even my parents (60-65) have heard anything about getting one. Hell, some of our health care workers haven't even got the shot yet. Our country is dumb.

 

[chicagoskycam]

I won't be getting the shot for a while I guess, at least until it's readily available. My 70-year-old father has had some issues getting an appointment.

 

[plasmonresonance]

Got my J & J shot on Wed. Zero side effects. Have a casino dealer friend who was deemed 'essential' and he got his shot earlier. We both had a chuckle about casino dealers being essential.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Must be nice to live in 'Merica.

Us getting a shot up here isn't even in sights. Not even my parents (60-65) have heard anything about getting one. Hell, some of our health care workers haven't even got the shot yet. Our country is dumb.

Hasn’t Canada secured enough vaccine to give the entire country a dose five times over?

Last I looked, I thought Canada was among the world leaders in buying up more doses than it needs.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Hasn’t Canada secured enough vaccine to give the entire country a dose five times over?

Last I looked, I thought Canada was among the world leaders in buying up more doses than it needs.

lol, quite the opposite. We have only vaccinated 1mil people in Ontario so far. Recently they just announced that those who had their first dose already will have to wait even longer than anticipated for the 2nd because they are going to try and give a first dose to more people.

As of a few weeks ago, Canada ranked 40th in vaccinations. They have secured more since then, but it's still a very slow process. Less than half of Canada is expected to be vaccinated by June, the whole country may get it by September, but I doubt it.

 

[Styles]

Must be nice to live in 'Merica.

Us getting a shot up here isn't even in sights. Not even my parents (60-65) have heard anything about getting one. Hell, some of our health care workers haven't even got the shot yet. Our country is dumb.

I just traveled to work in Hamilton and you have to take a test 72 hours before entering Canada (proof of negative test). Then take one at the border with a health official (Not rapid). Then take one 10 days into your quarantine via zoom call with a nurse even though you have to quarantine for 14 days anyway. These zoom calls were backed up 1000+ when I did mine and I’m sure it’s like that everyday. Seems like a major waste of resources but I don’t know a lot about the vaccine rollout for Canada.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I just traveled to work in Hamilton and you have to take a test 72 hours before entering Canada. Then take one at the border with a health official. Then take one 10 days into your quarantine via zoom call with a nurse even though you have to quarantine for 14 days anyway. These zoom calls were backed up 1000+ when I did mine and I’m sure it’s like that everyday. Seems like a major waste of resources but I don’t know a lot about the vaccine rollout for Canada.

Did you drive across? If so, lucky you. Because if you fly over, you have to take a test before you come, take a test when you get here, and then you are put into a "quarantine hotel" until you receive the results of your test back (could be a couple to a few days at your own expense) and then you still have to go self isolate at home or where ever for 14 days.

My sister in law has a significant other in the states, so she is taking a plane across (since she can't drive across) and then when she comes back, she is going to rent a car in the states, drive over the border and have the father in law drop the rental off at the London Airport. A neat way to get around the "Quarantine Hotel"

 

[Styles]

Did you drive across? If so, lucky you. Because if you fly over, you have to take a test before you come, take a test when you get here, and then you are put into a "quarantine hotel" until you receive the results of your test back (could be a couple to a few days at your own expense) and then you still have to go self isolate at home or where ever for 14 days.

My sister in law has a significant other in the states, so she is taking a plane across (since she can't drive across) and then when she comes back, she is going to rent a car in the states, drive over the border and have the father in law drop the rental off at the London Airport. A neat way to get around the "Quarantine Hotel"

Yeah I was able to drive because it’s only about 4 hours for me.

I had co workers who did the same thing catching a flight to Buffalo then renting a car and driving over.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

lol, quite the opposite. We have only vaccinated 1mil people in Ontario so far. Recently they just announced that those who had their first dose already will have to wait even longer than anticipated for the 2nd because they are going to try and give a first dose to more people.

As of a few weeks ago, Canada ranked 40th in vaccinations. They have secured more since then, but it's still a very slow process. Less than half of Canada is expected to be vaccinated by June, the whole country may get it by September, but I doubt it.

I was referencing procurement/purchasing of doses.

Here's what Duke University's vaccine purchasing tracking site published:

Updated: March 8, 2021
While this makes sense from the perspective of an individual country, it leads to deep inequities in terms of global allocation. While some middle- and lower-middle income countries are represented here with direct deals, none of them have enough to vaccinate their entire populations. At the same time, Canada has purchased enough to vaccinate its population five times over. (Again, it is important to remember that not all of these vaccines will necessarily receive approval and move to market.)

CEPI, one of the COVAX founding partners, is negotiating with self-financing countries to ensure that, once a certain percentage of their population has been vaccinated, a percentage of the doses secured through bilateral deals would be shared through the COVAX Facility. These negotiations are ongoing; however, high-income countries have little incentive to share from their advance purchase stock.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I was referencing procurement/purchasing of doses.

Here's what Duke University's vaccine purchasing tracking site published:

Updated: March 8, 2021
While this makes sense from the perspective of an individual country, it leads to deep inequities in terms of global allocation. While some middle- and lower-middle income countries are represented here with direct deals, none of them have enough to vaccinate their entire populations. At the same time, Canada has purchased enough to vaccinate its population five times over. (Again, it is important to remember that not all of these vaccines will necessarily receive approval and move to market.)

CEPI, one of the COVAX founding partners, is negotiating with self-financing countries to ensure that, once a certain percentage of their population has been vaccinated, a percentage of the doses secured through bilateral deals would be shared through the COVAX Facility. These negotiations are ongoing; however, high-income countries have little incentive to share from their advance purchase stock.

Sure, so they must have purchased the ones that haven't received approval or moved to the market, because we have barely had any vaccines compared to the US. I'm sure that will change once over the next couple of months, but it's ugly right now.

Total COVID-19 vaccine confirmed distribution as of March 10, 2021, at 6:00pm

Vaccine distribution	COVISHIELD Verity/Serum Institute of India	Pfizer/BioNTech	Moderna	Total
Total distributed in Canada	499,500	2,696,064	685,500	3,881,064

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