COVID-19 Part V (not an election discussion topic)

[BK]

Why Franklin?

Because he looks like a turtle.

Franklin (TV series) - Wikipedia

 

[deytookerjaabs]

I got unemployment during the "good" years. My job was salary + bonus, they didn't factor in the bonus total from my prior tax year as if I'd make it the next year, it was some funky calculation.

So, when I got the paper citing the deposit amount I immediately thought "holy ****." It was like 1/2 my normal cash flow at the max amount and that max amount was only temporary.

Hustling ensued.

I can't imagine the bank account troubles a lot of our friends are having at the moment let alone mortgage/rent issues as a result.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I got unemployment during the "good" years. My job was salary + bonus, they didn't factor in the bonus total from my prior tax year as if I'd make it the next year, it was some funky calculation.

So, when I got the paper citing the deposit amount I immediately thought "holy ****." It was like 1/2 my normal cash flow at the max amount and that max amount was only temporary.

Hustling ensued.

I can't imagine the bank account troubles a lot of our friends are having at the moment let alone mortgage/rent issues as a result.

It’s a crying shame that millions of Americans are on the verge of financial ruin, if not already there. Not to mention the millions that already lived paycheck to paycheck beforehand.
But yet our elected officials give a one time 1200 check and now a bonus 600 dollar check. It’s a damn joke regardless of what anyone’s political philosophies fall under.

 

[RayP]

Any of you guys have any guesses to what might happen with the housing market in the next handful of months?

 

[Larmer83]

Swedish King: Our Wingnut-Approved COVID Strategy Was Deadly

Well, as the year ends, Sweden is coming to terms with a death toll per million that is approximately 10 times higher than neighboring Norway and Finland, and now its king has condemned political leaders for their experiment, branding the light-touch strategy a miserable and deadly failure.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Swedish King: Our Wingnut-Approved COVID Strategy Was Deadly

Well, as the year ends, Sweden is coming to terms with a death toll per million that is approximately 10 times higher than neighboring Norway and Finland, and now its king has condemned political leaders for their experiment, branding the light-touch strategy a miserable and deadly failure.

Where’s Hinterland?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Where’s Hinterland?

If you say his name three times he appears and gets you.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Swedish King: Our Wingnut-Approved COVID Strategy Was Deadly

Well, as the year ends, Sweden is coming to terms with a death toll per million that is approximately 10 times higher than neighboring Norway and Finland, and now its king has condemned political leaders for their experiment, branding the light-touch strategy a miserable and deadly failure.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

If you say his name three times he appears and gets you.

When he gets you is it with some absurd contrarian argument that makes you want to run into a wall?

 

[Hinterland]

Swedish King: Our Wingnut-Approved COVID Strategy Was Deadly

Well, as the year ends, Sweden is coming to terms with a death toll per million that is approximately 10 times higher than neighboring Norway and Finland, and now its king has condemned political leaders for their experiment, branding the light-touch strategy a miserable and deadly failure.

Nothing new though. They failed to protect their elderly people in retirement homes etc during the first wave and that's why their death rate is so high. Their infection numbers are mounting, too but they're still middle of the pack in Europe. Their infection rate certainly is much lower than ours in Switzerland. I think we're currently about 1200 cases per 100'000 ahead of them. The narrative of the Swedes doing nothing or trying for herd immunity is certainly wrong. They came away from that long ago and have learned from it. Their failure to protect the elderly and weak was the main problem there and we haven't done a much better job here in Switzerland, to be honest.

 

[Mrfenn92]

When he gets you is it with some absurd contrarian argument that makes you want to run into a wall?

You had a double bubble the other day with him and kbs. Need to walk away from that bro.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

You had a double bubble the other day with him and kbs. Need to walk away from that bro.

Haha it was wild, and I was the perfect level of buzzed where I felt I could engage on both fronts.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Haha it was wild, and I was the perfect level of buzzed where I felt I could engage on both fronts.

Obviously buzzed was worried about you then. That’s stroke level inducing internet convo.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Nothing new though. They failed to protect their elderly people in retirement homes etc during the first wave and that's why their death rate is so high. Their infection numbers are mounting, too but they're still middle of the pack in Europe. Their infection rate certainly is much lower than ours in Switzerland. I think we're currently about 1200 cases per 100'000 ahead of them. The narrative of the Swedes doing nothing or trying for herd immunity is certainly wrong. They came away from that long ago and have learned from it. Their failure to protect the elderly and weak was the main problem there and we haven't done a much better job here in Switzerland, to be honest.

Weren’t you arguing, not even a month ago, that the Swedish model wasn’t a failure?

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Obviously buzzed was worried about you then. That’s stroke level inducing internet convo.

Haha between Favre supposedly being an overrated loser, and Seabrook supposedly being a fat piece of shit who doesn’t care anymore, I couldn’t help myself.

 

[Pez68]

It begs the question as to why this guy is not one everyone's ignore list, at this point?

 

[Hinterland]

Weren’t you arguing, not even a month ago, that the Swedish model wasn’t a failure?

I guess it depends on what you call the Swedish model.

I was always sceptical about them trying for herd immunity. There wasn't enough information out there but it was a gamble with people's lives. So no. I found it interesting but I never liked it. And I always found it crazy how they've done nothing (and I mean nothing) to protect their elderly and weak). Trying for herd immunity was one thing but they should have protected their retirement and nursing homes at the very least.

But again, they reacted quickly after that. The narrative that they've done nothing is certainly wrong. For example, they've banned spectators from sports events long before most of the rest of Europe. So I certainly think they've done a good job since that first wave. Their measures certainly make a lot more sense than ours here in Switzerland and their infection numbers are better, too.

 

[Hinterland]

Sweden failed to protect elderly in COVID pandemic, commission finds

Most articles about Sweden are just bs and bashing the country for no reason, suggesting they've done everything wrong without actually outlining the mistakes they really made. This article explains the real problems in Sweden and why their death rate is so high.

 

[deytookerjaabs]

WTF. Meanwhile, West Virginia dem Senator argues it's too much for folks on unemployment to, gasp, also get a stimulus check:





This **** is too much. Up, down, left, right, sideways, slide. And many in the suits making the arguments against or limiting direct payments in the COVID bill are themselves crazy rich. A dollar spent now, while folks need it, will save ten dollars down the road.

 

[ChiHawks10]

WTF. Meanwhile, West Virginia dem Senator argues it's too much for folks on unemployment to, gasp, also get a stimulus check:





This **** is too much. Up, down, left, right, sideways, slide. And many in the suits making the arguments against or limiting direct payments in the COVID bill are themselves crazy rich. A dollar spent now, while folks need it, will save ten dollars down the road.

There isn't a poor politician in this country.

 

[deytookerjaabs]

There isn't a poor politician in this country.

To be fair, I think there's a few who are getting by with only a mil or two in assets.

 

[ChiHawks10]

To be fair, I think there's a few who are getting by with only a mil or two in assets.

I mean... ONLY a million or two in assets...

Then you have 60% of Americans with less than $1,000 in savings.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I mean... ONLY a million or two in assets...

Then you have 60% of Americans with less than $1,000 in savings.

One or two million in assets is usually only politicians in their first term. After that they rack up some nice portfolios.

 

[hawksrule]

One or two million in assets is usually only politicians in their first term. After that they rack up some nice portfolios.

And even more when they go on to be lobbyists.

 

[Mrfenn92]

And even more when they go on to be lobbyists.

It’s quite amazing