what is there to discuss ? at one point you can't excuse everything. I mean if it comes out that Chauvin got bullied is school, will it make more sense to you? If floyd told him he was going to kill his dog, will it change anything? WE pay the police force to hold the moral high ground in those situations and break the cycle of hate, not create it. Of course you can make excuses for everything, but the buck needs to stop somewhere. Resisting an arrest doesn't lead you to take punches or die, it doesn't work like that. There are no logical narratives that would shift the blame to the victim. What if the person is mentally ill ? drunk? depressed? hit them harder ?
Let's take the example of Allan Adam, These cops have pepper spray, tie wraps, tools available to them to deal with situations that could go south. He punched that man because he wanted to, not because it was necessary. The root of the problem is that the RCMP came out and said after the video that it didn't picture officers using excessive force. So my point is, I guess we are not enough people ''parotting consensus'' for things to change. And by providing context like you do, you open the door to the kind of thinking that leads the RCMP to conclude that there is nothing to see here. There is a greater good to be reached for when situations like this present themselves, and by shifting part of the blame you contribute to prevent change, not create it. There will be no reforms at all if you don't display your outrage, so don't see yourself as someone above all those people taking it to the streets. Without them, the conversation you are trying to have is pointless.
