OT: Coronavirus XXXII: Pfizer Vaccinations Being Administered in the UK and Soon Canada & the US

[Ritchie Valens]

So we broke a 24 hour record in Alberta? Alberta just keeps one upping itself.

Well when you've got tomfoolery and shenanigans such as this, the population of "DGAF County" seems to be holding strong and steady throughout the province.

Taber police lay assault charges at noisy party

 

[Drivesaitl]

As such, it's fair game to question whether a particular government's efforts at mitigation were timely and effective. And yet there's the implication that any effort to do so is "biased" and "inaccurate."

Oh. we're used to it, Alberta is usual "fair game".


Gee, one jurisdiction provided its residents with 40M masks, free, distributed in every city and town. Also curbed Covid deaths immensely during the pandemic by avoiding widescale infections through the deadly Covid Spring.

But that same province, that is impacted heavily because it is the WORKING province of Canada, that simply doesn't shut down, gets inordinate blame for being what it is.

"Alberta blew it"

yeah, way objective there..

A more reasonable story line is Pandemic finally hits Alberta hard. Right? No, but there always has to be the the slight. Last week CBC when covering Ontario response focused on an angle that restrictions don't work, they try everything, the pandemic hits. But if its Alberta focus its Alberta screwed up. Thats the angle at work.

Its selective nonstop Alberta bashing, during the worst of times.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Had our covid tests this morning so we can travel this week and got the results back this evening. Turnaround for private testing companies is insane.

 

[Drivesaitl]

BC had 49 deaths this weekend. They now have 647 deaths due to Covid and approaching Alberta Total of 733

When you factor in that the vast majority of the BC population live in warmer climes that are pacific influenced, mild, and humid, its a less ideal climate for Covid, but they are struggling just the same.

Also with 43K total cases in BC, and 82k total cases in Alberta, much of the difference probably explained by BC doing HALF as many tests than Alberta.

People critique our tracing responses and yet BC is barely tracking theres with not even adequate testing levels.

 

[Oilhawks]

Compared to who? You could try Texas?

What is the elegant free market solution here? The us is getting maximum deaths and a bad economy at the same time.

Your assumption wasn't my assertion.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

They have already announced the vaccine wont stop you from getting the virus, and you will still need to wear your mask, and you can still transfer the virus. So what good is this vaccine exactly?

Has anyone looked up how devastating the vaccine was on minks (the animal with the most similar respiratory system to ours) after being exposed to the real virus? It made it exponentially more fatal.

Take your vitamins, get your excercise, eat healthy foods and get your sunshine. You will be fine, our immune systems have gone through a lot worse.

10000 deaths 200(numbers a little off but percentages correct) outside of long term care homes. You don't die from covid, you die from an existing condition, the mainstream media created hysteria is criminal.

Do you know how vaccines work?

 

[Oilhawks]

I think any government is going to make mistakes at the onset of a fast unfolding pandemic where information on the virus is scarce and changing all the time but if you want to write a piece on the feds' failures at that point, I'd be happy to read it.

I don't disagree that mistakes won't be made. However, partisan views tend to excuse or hand-wave these mistakes that set a precedent and caused a multitude of deaths.

Well we aren't a "centralized federalist country" (whatever that means) we're a federation of 11 different entities with different legal responsibilities with healthcare and property/civil rights being the exclusive responsibility of the provinces, so the bulk of the public health response and lockdown measures would fall on the individual provinces.

It means that unlike a republic like the US, the provinces are actually much more beholden to the authority of the federal government, and while the feds delegate healthcare to provincial authorities, the feds set the precedent. The federal government failed in their duty to prepare the country for the pandemic. Not sure how anyone can deny this without being blinded by partisan views.

How well would a province be able to shut down international travel into a province without the feds stepping in? How well can a province obtain supply of PPE vs the feds? In fact, the feds had more than enough supply beforehand and did nothing to replenish it. They have also awarded a contract for production of new PPE to a company that had 0 experience in making said equipment.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Had our covid tests this morning so we can travel this week and got the results back this evening. Turnaround for private testing companies is insane.

AHS testing is pretty quick too, my friend got his done and had the results 2 days later.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

AHS testing is pretty quick too, my friend got his done and had the results 2 days later.

Yeah when I did mine through ahs got results in 3 days which is pretty good.

I’m holding stock of a company that apparently has attained +90% sensitivity on a saliva test. Heres a description of it below.

“rapid antigen test developed as a point-of-care cassette that does not require lab instruments or specialized lab personnel to be performed. It can be administered by healthcare professionals or untrained users. The test can help identify infected individuals in 15 minutes and is designed for point-of-care settings such as long-term care facilities, schools, or at home. An efficient at-home antigen test would significantly reduce virus transmission, specifically by asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic patients. It would also allow individuals who receive negative tests to continue with their everyday activities, including work and school. CoviSafe takes advantage of a lateral flow technology to detect the presence of the COVID-19 virus in saliva or other samples including upper respiratory samples collected by swab.”

 

[Senor Catface]

BC continues to be being hit hard in one particular area.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-dec-14-1.5827554

Vancouver over the weekend had 300 cases. Or, since prorating is a convenient strategy used in this morbid game of us versus them, 500 cases over 3 days, when using national testing averages.

 

[Dorian2]

Keep your shit together people.

 

[BlueCheeseWithWings]

Emperor Gates:

 

[Snipes45]

Bill Gates is a smart guy. Love the work him and his wife do in 3rd world countries. Very fascinating. He has helped fix so much sewage problems. World needs more rich AF people like him who have a sense to help around the world and donate.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Bill Gates is a smart guy. Love the work him and his wife do in 3rd world countries. Very fascinating. He has helped fix so much sewage problems. World needs more rich AF people like him who have a sense to help around the world and donate.

He’s also a crook

 

[Darkwinter]

Bill Gates is a smart guy. Love the work him and his wife do in 3rd world countries. Very fascinating. He has helped fix so much sewage problems. World needs more rich AF people like him who have a sense to help around the world and donate.

I respect your opinion but personally think Gates is a sheep in wolf clothing and since when is he a doctor to start giving his advice to the world.

 

[MaxR11]

BC continues to be being hit hard in one particular area.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-dec-14-1.5827554

Vancouver over the weekend had 300 cases. Or, since prorating is a convenient strategy used in this morbid game of us versus them, 500 cases over 3 days, when using national testing averages.

Edmonton <hold my beer> hits about 4-500 in half a day.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

I respect your opinion but personally think Gates is a sheep in wolf clothing and since when is he a doctor to start giving his advice to the world.

Why is it that only doctors can give advice? Gates has dedicated a significant amount of his time and money to helping fight illnesses around the world. His opinion matter more then 99% of the doctors out there.

 

[Senor Catface]

Bill Gates is a smart guy. Love the work him and his wife do in 3rd world countries. Very fascinating. He has helped fix so much sewage problems. World needs more rich AF people like him who have a sense to help around the world and donate.

Just wait until after we get the vaccine.

 

[harpoon]

His opinion matter more then 99% of the doctors out there

On matters related to a pandemic?
Yeah ... I don’t think so.

 

[oobga]

Bill Gates is a smart guy. Love the work him and his wife do in 3rd world countries. Very fascinating. He has helped fix so much sewage problems. World needs more rich AF people like him who have a sense to help around the world and donate.

I agree he's done a lot of great work. What will stain his image is what happens with all insanely rich guys though. They firmly believe that the only people that should have a right to spend their money for good causes is themselves. They fight to the death to pay $0 in taxes and to be able to give out money completely on their own terms. That obviously aligns with a personality that thinks they're smarter than most everyone else.

I think Gates should get some credit for being willing to give away as much as he does, in contrast to many of the super rich that just want to hoard infinitely. And he definitely uses a lot of his time to try to make a difference. His biggest legacy may end up being in the fields of energy storage/production over the next couple decades.

 

[nabob]

This is the very first sentence of the article:

"On Sept. 5, six months after Alberta recorded its first case of a new disease called the novel coronavirus, the province had the pandemic under control."



The premise of the article, which is clearly stated, is that Alberta had things under control and then they blew it.

would be cool if they explained how pandemics work and that no place...except North Korea is exempt from getting hit. Alberta didn’t really get hit during the first wave at all.

 

[nabob]

I don't disagree that mistakes won't be made. However, partisan views tend to excuse or hand-wave these mistakes that set a precedent and caused a multitude of deaths.



It means that unlike a republic like the US, the provinces are actually much more beholden to the authority of the federal government, and while the feds delegate healthcare to provincial authorities, the feds set the precedent. The federal government failed in their duty to prepare the country for the pandemic. Not sure how anyone can deny this without being blinded by partisan views.

How well would a province be able to shut down international travel into a province without the feds stepping in? How well can a province obtain supply of PPE vs the feds? In fact, the feds had more than enough supply beforehand and did nothing to replenish it. They have also awarded a contract for production of new PPE to a company that had 0 experience in making said equipment.

It’s absolutely mind bottling that some posters can give the Federal government an A+ and excuse all their failures...then at the same time talk non stop about how horrible the province has handled things and blame the entire pandemic on a Premier. It’s shows so clearly that all they care about is partisan politics and they are way to hypocritical to have a honest conversation.

 

[McRpro]

On matters related to a pandemic?
Yeah ... I don’t think so.

So you disagree with his idea of keeping bars and restaurants closed for the next 6 months?

 

[nabob]

Oh. we're used to it, Alberta is usual "fair game".


Gee, one jurisdiction provided its residents with 40M masks, free, distributed in every city and town. Also curbed Covid deaths immensely during the pandemic by avoiding widescale infections through the deadly Covid Spring.

But that same province, that is impacted heavily because it is the WORKING province of Canada, that simply doesn't shut down, gets inordinate blame for being what it is.

"Alberta blew it"

yeah, way objective there..

A more reasonable story line is Pandemic finally hits Alberta hard. Right? No, but there always has to be the the slight. Last week CBC when covering Ontario response focused on an angle that restrictions don't work, they try everything, the pandemic hits. But if its Alberta focus its Alberta screwed up. Thats the angle at work.

Its selective nonstop Alberta bashing, during the worst of times.

you’re talking to a poster who gives Tam an A+ grade even after she claimed for months that the pandemic wouldn’t be a threat to Canadians after she learned about it in early January.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

So you disagree with his idea of keeping bars and restaurants closed for the next 6 months?

Yes