This should be Hellys to win then
I think he will, just judging by the media narrative.
This should be Hellys to win then
Man all the Hellebuyck doubters are awfully silent this season. I guess that's what happens when he carries your team and earns yet another Vezina nod while doing so. I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't win it, especially given the narrative among the media about the award.
Man all the Hellebuyck doubters are awfully silent this season. I guess that's what happens when he carries your team and earns yet another Vezina nod while doing so. I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't win it, especially given the narrative among the media about the award.
Still need to see him steal a series. He was outplayed by MAF when it mattered most.
Still need to see him steal a series. He was outplayed by MAF when it mattered most.
Hellebuyck had an awful series against Vegas. VGK's aggressive forecheck was tough to play against too and was the style of opposition play that had given them the most problems all that season, but the Jets dominated for long stretches and would finally put one past Fleury only to have Hellebuyck cough up a terrible turnover and get scored on 2 minutes later. It happened a couple of times and just completely demoralized the whole team. If the goals were a little easier to come by for the Jets, I think they would've won the series in the end, but the combination sank them psychologically.He played well enough to win that series. MAF played better.
Hellebuyck had an awful series against Vegas. VGK's aggressive forecheck was tough to play against too and was the style of opposition play that had given them the most problems all that season, but the Jets dominated for long stretches and would finally put one past Fleury only to have Hellebuyck cough up a terrible turnover and get scored on 2 minutes later. It happened a couple of times and just completely demoralized the whole team. If the goals were a little easier to come by for the Jets, I think they would've won the series in the end, but the combination sank them psychologically.
I'll believe Helle gave up a couple of weak ones - over 5 games. If that broke the Jets psychologically then they were already broken. Helle was good, but not outstanding in that series. MAF was outstanding and that was most of the difference.
No way I'm blaming that series loss on Helle.
I love helly and I admit i was wrong on him.
But as I said before he has a average year then a great year then back to average so far.
If he played like he has this year I'm the blues series it's a different story.
If he strings 2 or 3 vezinas years in a row or even above average not only are the jets going deep but he will be recognized as the best.
He is close
Think of it this way.
Price age 22-26
276 GP - 132 W - 109 L - 31 OTL - .918 sv% - 2.46 GAA - 21 SO
Never once a Vezina finalist during that stretch, never once made an all star team during that stretch. Wasn't until his 27 year old season where he won his Hart, Vezina, Jennings and Pearson.
Helle age 22-26
270 GP - 148 W - 85 L - 22 OTL - .917% - 2.64 GAA - 20 SO
Two time Vezina finalist, one time 2nd all star team goalie, might even win the Vezina this year.
Helle is already on the same trajectory that Price was and in some ways doing better.
Great comparison but everything is different between the two goalies.
Style , state of team, city , etc etc etc
It's hard to compare
Think of it this way.
Price age 22-26
276 GP - 132 W - 109 L - 31 OTL - .918 sv% - 2.46 GAA - 21 SO
Never once a Vezina finalist during that stretch, never once made an all star team during that stretch. Wasn't until his 27 year old season where he won his Hart, Vezina, Jennings and Pearson.
Helle age 22-26
270 GP - 148 W - 85 L - 22 OTL - .917% - 2.64 GAA - 20 SO
Two time Vezina finalist, one time 2nd all star team goalie, might even win the Vezina this year.
Helle is already on the same trajectory that Price was and in some ways doing better.
Plus hard to imagine any team’s d as bad as ours was this year.Think of it this way.
Price age 22-26
276 GP - 132 W - 109 L - 31 OTL - .918 sv% - 2.46 GAA - 21 SO
Never once a Vezina finalist during that stretch, never once made an all star team during that stretch. Wasn't until his 27 year old season where he won his Hart, Vezina, Jennings and Pearson.
Helle age 22-26
270 GP - 148 W - 85 L - 22 OTL - .917% - 2.64 GAA - 20 SO
Two time Vezina finalist, one time 2nd all star team goalie, might even win the Vezina this year.
Helle is already on the same trajectory that Price was and in some ways doing better.
Hellebuyck deserves to win, no question - and I'm not just saying that because I'm a partisan Jets fan. I think Rask will get a lot of votes though...he's had a great season as well (though playing behind a much better team).
I love helly and I admit i was wrong on him.
But as I said before he has a average year then a great year then back to average so far.
If he played like he has this year I'm the blues series it's a different story.
If he strings 2 or 3 vezinas years in a row or even above average not only are the jets going deep but he will be recognized as the best.
He is close
I think you make too much of the up & down pattern. In 5 years in the NHL he has had 1 down year. That was not last year. Sv% was down league wide last year. He did start a little slowly but by the end of the year he had his sv% a little above avg.
Look at his first 2 years in the NHL as establishing himself and winning the starter's job. The 3 seasons since have been Vezina nomination, a little above avg and Vezina nomination again. Give the guy a break, FCS.
Ok fine I will . If he stays in his net and doesnt try to play the puck anymore lol
I wonder how much Helle starting 16 more games than Rask will be considered?
Fair. I’d argue Helly was pretty good in playoffs it was everyone who wasn’t. A case could be made for a few guys being good.I held my peace on this when first announced.
Hellebuyck definitely had a great regular season so good on him for that.
But who cares if you're good in the regular season if you can't deliver the goods in the playoffs? Give me a Price being weak during the season then going into god mode in the play-ins/playoffs over a regular season Vezina any day.