Confirmed with Link: Connor Hellebuyck nominated for Vezina Trophy - Winner!

[Daximus]

This should be Hellys to win then

I think he will, just judging by the media narrative.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Man all the Hellebuyck doubters are awfully silent this season. I guess that's what happens when he carries your team and earns yet another Vezina nod while doing so. I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't win it, especially given the narrative among the media about the award.

Well, I doubted whether Helle was ready for the starter role after the disappointing season with Hutchinson. I knew he'd turn into an NHL goalie at some point.

Glad it happened sooner rather than later

 

[AWSAA]

Man all the Hellebuyck doubters are awfully silent this season. I guess that's what happens when he carries your team and earns yet another Vezina nod while doing so. I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't win it, especially given the narrative among the media about the award.

Still need to see him steal a series. He was outplayed by MAF when it mattered most.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Still need to see him steal a series. He was outplayed by MAF when it mattered most.

MAF got luckier when it mattered most.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Still need to see him steal a series. He was outplayed by MAF when it mattered most.

He played well enough to win that series. MAF played better.

 

[Gm0ney]

He played well enough to win that series. MAF played better.

Hellebuyck had an awful series against Vegas. VGK's aggressive forecheck was tough to play against too and was the style of opposition play that had given them the most problems all that season, but the Jets dominated for long stretches and would finally put one past Fleury only to have Hellebuyck cough up a terrible turnover and get scored on 2 minutes later. It happened a couple of times and just completely demoralized the whole team. If the goals were a little easier to come by for the Jets, I think they would've won the series in the end, but the combination sank them psychologically.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Hellebuyck had an awful series against Vegas. VGK's aggressive forecheck was tough to play against too and was the style of opposition play that had given them the most problems all that season, but the Jets dominated for long stretches and would finally put one past Fleury only to have Hellebuyck cough up a terrible turnover and get scored on 2 minutes later. It happened a couple of times and just completely demoralized the whole team. If the goals were a little easier to come by for the Jets, I think they would've won the series in the end, but the combination sank them psychologically.

I'll believe Helle gave up a couple of weak ones - over 5 games. If that broke the Jets psychologically then they were already broken. Helle was good, but not outstanding in that series. MAF was outstanding and that was most of the difference.

No way I'm blaming that series loss on Helle.

 

[Daximus]

I'll believe Helle gave up a couple of weak ones - over 5 games. If that broke the Jets psychologically then they were already broken. Helle was good, but not outstanding in that series. MAF was outstanding and that was most of the difference.

No way I'm blaming that series loss on Helle.

Yeah I'd put a lot more blame on the horseshoe MAF had up his back end than anything else. He was on a crazy run up until they met the Caps in the finals and then it all came crashing down. We out everythinged Vegas (except goals) but MAF weathered every storm we threw at him.

 

[grieves]

A 7 game series is a very short sample size. We need to remember that we are talking about single games here. We could easily pick games where Helle did not look strong from the regular season and string them into 5-7 game batches and say that this is not a strong goalie. That is not how it works. And I'm sure it is especially difficult to be a goalie in a team where the coach does not care if the top line cheats (meaning that usually the top-line-against is gunning for him with ease). Does not even acknowledge it even though it is plain to see for every schmuck in the crowd.

Helle is a big relaxed, very intelligent goalie who should win this prize. Rask is like DiCaprio, everyone with half a brain knows he is one of the best. There just might be someone better that singular year.

 

[Teemusalami204]

I love helly and I admit i was wrong on him.

But as I said before he has a average year then a great year then back to average so far.

If he played like he has this year I'm the blues series it's a different story.

If he strings 2 or 3 vezinas years in a row or even above average not only are the jets going deep but he will be recognized as the best.

He is close

 

[Daximus]

I love helly and I admit i was wrong on him.

But as I said before he has a average year then a great year then back to average so far.

If he played like he has this year I'm the blues series it's a different story.

If he strings 2 or 3 vezinas years in a row or even above average not only are the jets going deep but he will be recognized as the best.

He is close

Think of it this way.

Price age 22-26
276 GP - 132 W - 109 L - 31 OTL - .918 sv% - 2.46 GAA - 21 SO
Never once a Vezina finalist during that stretch, never once made an all star team during that stretch. Wasn't until his 27 year old season where he won his Hart, Vezina, Jennings and Pearson.

Helle age 22-26
270 GP - 148 W - 85 L - 22 OTL - .917% - 2.64 GAA - 20 SO
Two time Vezina finalist, one time 2nd all star team goalie, might even win the Vezina this year.

Helle is already on the same trajectory that Price was and in some ways doing better.

 

[Teemusalami204]

Think of it this way.

Price age 22-26
276 GP - 132 W - 109 L - 31 OTL - .918 sv% - 2.46 GAA - 21 SO
Never once a Vezina finalist during that stretch, never once made an all star team during that stretch. Wasn't until his 27 year old season where he won his Hart, Vezina, Jennings and Pearson.

Helle age 22-26
270 GP - 148 W - 85 L - 22 OTL - .917% - 2.64 GAA - 20 SO
Two time Vezina finalist, one time 2nd all star team goalie, might even win the Vezina this year.

Helle is already on the same trajectory that Price was and in some ways doing better.

Great comparison but everything is different between the two goalies.

Style , state of team, city , etc etc etc

It's hard to compare

 

[Daximus]

Great comparison but everything is different between the two goalies.

Style , state of team, city , etc etc etc

It's hard to compare

Well then you can never compare players because they will never all play in the same city, for the same team or the same style. So what are we all even doing here?

 

[Duke749]

Think of it this way.

Price age 22-26
276 GP - 132 W - 109 L - 31 OTL - .918 sv% - 2.46 GAA - 21 SO
Never once a Vezina finalist during that stretch, never once made an all star team during that stretch. Wasn't until his 27 year old season where he won his Hart, Vezina, Jennings and Pearson.

Helle age 22-26
270 GP - 148 W - 85 L - 22 OTL - .917% - 2.64 GAA - 20 SO
Two time Vezina finalist, one time 2nd all star team goalie, might even win the Vezina this year.

Helle is already on the same trajectory that Price was and in some ways doing better.

Wasn’t the league average goalie numbers a bit better during Price’s time as well?

 

[Adam da bomb]

Think of it this way.

Price age 22-26
276 GP - 132 W - 109 L - 31 OTL - .918 sv% - 2.46 GAA - 21 SO
Never once a Vezina finalist during that stretch, never once made an all star team during that stretch. Wasn't until his 27 year old season where he won his Hart, Vezina, Jennings and Pearson.

Helle age 22-26
270 GP - 148 W - 85 L - 22 OTL - .917% - 2.64 GAA - 20 SO
Two time Vezina finalist, one time 2nd all star team goalie, might even win the Vezina this year.

Helle is already on the same trajectory that Price was and in some ways doing better.

Plus hard to imagine any team’s d as bad as ours was this year.

 

[mazmin]

Hellebuyck deserves to win, no question - and I'm not just saying that because I'm a partisan Jets fan. I think Rask will get a lot of votes though...he's had a great season as well (though playing behind a much better team).

I wonder how much Helle starting 16 more games than Rask will be considered?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I love helly and I admit i was wrong on him.

But as I said before he has a average year then a great year then back to average so far.

If he played like he has this year I'm the blues series it's a different story.

If he strings 2 or 3 vezinas years in a row or even above average not only are the jets going deep but he will be recognized as the best.

He is close

I think you make too much of the up & down pattern. In 5 years in the NHL he has had 1 down year. That was not last year. Sv% was down league wide last year. He did start a little slowly but by the end of the year he had his sv% a little above avg.

Look at his first 2 years in the NHL as establishing himself and winning the starter's job. The 3 seasons since have been Vezina nomination, a little above avg and Vezina nomination again. Give the guy a break, FCS.

 

[Teemusalami204]

I think you make too much of the up & down pattern. In 5 years in the NHL he has had 1 down year. That was not last year. Sv% was down league wide last year. He did start a little slowly but by the end of the year he had his sv% a little above avg.

Look at his first 2 years in the NHL as establishing himself and winning the starter's job. The 3 seasons since have been Vezina nomination, a little above avg and Vezina nomination again. Give the guy a break, FCS.

Ok fine I will . If he stays in his net and doesnt try to play the puck anymore lol

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Ok fine I will . If he stays in his net and doesnt try to play the puck anymore lol

Yup. Helle, you in the net. Puck out of the net.

 

[ps241]

I wonder how much Helle starting 16 more games than Rask will be considered?

Rask played 41 games Halak played 31 games. That is really close to splitting the net.

Rask had a great season but the gap between the quantity and quality of his work load and Helle’s is impossible to ignore.

 

[mondo3]

The puck soup podcast guys think he could have been in top 3 candidates for the Hart, but might have ended up just missing out at 4th.

 

[PhilJets]

Im very excited for Helly.

I would be so pump and happy if he wins this!!

 

[ERYX]

I held my peace on this when first announced.

Hellebuyck definitely had a great regular season so good on him for that.

But who cares if you're good in the regular season if you can't deliver the goods in the playoffs? Give me a Price being weak during the season then going into god mode in the play-ins/playoffs over a regular season Vezina any day.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I held my peace on this when first announced.

Hellebuyck definitely had a great regular season so good on him for that.

But who cares if you're good in the regular season if you can't deliver the goods in the playoffs? Give me a Price being weak during the season then going into god mode in the play-ins/playoffs over a regular season Vezina any day.

Fair. I’d argue Helly was pretty good in playoffs it was everyone who wasn’t. A case could be made for a few guys being good.

 

[cbcwpg]

If Helly wins, he will be only the 2nd goalie since 1980 to win this and be on a non-playoff team.