EightyOne
My posts are jokes. And hockey is just a game.
- Nov 23, 2016
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He had 1 great shift, a few decent ones, and a few bad ones. Promising game for him but let’s not get carried away here. You have a low bar if you thought he looked great.
Sprong with 6 SOG tonight, tied with Geno for tops on the team. @pixiesfanyo , no mention of this since it seemed to be a big issue for you prior?
TB had two goals tonight, just saying
I think it was ColePens on rentals not even working out well recently. I would say, if you are actually serious in contending, you will find that rentals do not work and haven't for about a decade+.
Rentals are desperate attempts by bubble teams to lose what talent they have for no gain.
Hainsey says hi (acquired 1 week before the TD). So does Schultz. And Kunitz (although not a rental with 3.5 yrs on his deal at the time) and Guerin. But the other 3 were all rentals (zero chance we were going to qualify Schultz at 3.9m). And then there's Hossa even though we "only" made it to GM6 of the cup finals that season.
And that's just the Pens... pretty sure I could look at other teams and see other smart deadline pick up's that did well for them.
I don't think swinging for the fences on a big name is the smartest use of the assets - even though if properly done most of the assets are vastly over valued. But I do think that properly thought out acquisitions are important to give teams the best chance possible to have post season success.
Right. Properly thought out.
I suppose I left too much to interpretation.
When discussing 'rentals' I thought it was obvious that these are the BIG name players with pending FA contracts expected to take a team to a championship and possibly re-sign.
I consider Hossa a fail. He didn't push the team to Game 6 on his back--but his scoring touches were nice. And he left in the summer (only to be crushed the next year...sweeeet!). Iginla was a failure--both in season (despite point totals) and the fact he left.
This is a big time no-no post for me. Who are you trading? And which one of our guys like 38 like the examples you gave?Going forward, JR should be focusing on moving forwards for either picks or straight up hockey trade for dmen. We have plenty of forwards close to being ready. Need to play in the reg season to up their value.
Also need to make room for our high end guys like Bellerive and Hallander. If those two reach their potential this team will be even better. Bellerive could be a much better version of Rust. Maybe even stay at center. Hallander could be Hornqvist. Allows us to not only trade others to get assets down the road or add to the D.
Time to look ahead to extend this window. Some keep thinking its only a couple more years but Sid/Geno will still be great in their mid to late 30s IMO. Dont even have to be the best players in the game at that point if there are others surrounding them. Good example is the Sharks with Thornton and Marleau. Got older and thought that team was gonna fall off but surrounded them with more talent.
Should be able to sneak in another cup late in their careers. I say 5 total. Not far fetched at all.
Sprong was not good first 30 minutes, same old looking lost, and than suddenly as if something clicked, he forced first two shots, which he should have done before, and then things got way better, you can tell confidence growing...
I am still not fan of jake Sid Simon line, that can work only if Sid is grinding 180%, Jake is kind of lackadaisacal at times, and if Sid takes a shift off they would be in trouble,
i like chemistry between Sid and Simon, one can see why Sid likes playing with him, if he is a bit stronger on the wall he would be a perfect right wing for Sid
Sullivan just mentioned it in his post game. I don’t understand why a shooter wouldn’t be criticized for 3 shots in 7 games unless you have an agenda.
is it the shooter or a fail from his line mates?Sullivan just mentioned it in his post game. I don’t understand why a shooter wouldn’t be criticized for 3 shots in 7 games unless you have an agenda.
This is correct. Also Geno leads the NHL for ppg right now.
Yeah. Reliable defensively with some attacking potential. I see some people calling for Bluegers, but I'm happier to have him playing regularly with Grant at 13F.
Testify!
You want to build for the last runs of the the two-headed monster, you do that by giving the young talent we currently have plenty of time to develop rather than hoping to push through a bunch of draft picks 2-3 years now. I love the potential of guys like Bellerive and Hallander, but we should only count on them once they've arrived.
This is a big time no-no post for me. Who are you trading? And which one of our guys like 38 like the examples you gave?
- Horny? Not many people in the league can carry his jockstrap at what he does. And if you watch other games you will see how many teams are desperate for a player like him.
- Kessel? 92 point guy, big part of 2 Cups, and on fire with HMK to start the season. No freaking way.
- Hags? The guy who does the biggest thankless job on the team? Nope.
- Cully? For what.. a 7th? Just to try young guys like we did last year and lose out on what Dad has already given us? No thanks.
And even if you have the greatest team, loaded top/bottom, it doesn't guarantee a Cup. If we win one more, we are beyond blessed. I personally believe thought process like that could ruin this window faster than anything.
Agree with first part but if we could land another potential top 6 player thru the draft that would increase odds as well.
Im talking 5-6 years away tho...who knows where we are at by then. Maybe make a trade for an elite player by then..sign one in FA..etc. Whoever the GM is by the time those 2 are 37-38 Im sure we will go after some high end FAs. Like I said..thats when we will have to start surrounding them with more talent.
Our best odds are these next few years but if handled right we should still be able to make the playoffs and maybe put together another run.
Malkin is 32, like 4 or 5 years past his traditional prime, and still absolutely clowning guys on a nightly basis.
He's going to go down as one of the most underrated players in NHL history. Amazing.
it's neat how even though Sprong didn't immediately get that chance to start the year, Sully was still able to play him in a better spot last night. I wonder if any more opportunities will come up over the 73 games we have left.Courtesy of the most time TOI he's seen this year and playing with a scoring line center.
OH and strangely JJ's best game. I could rave about this game for hours. But it is almost 1am here.
Was at the game tonight , Simon was excellent all game. Sprong was a treat to watch in that 3rd period. I think Sully moving him up to Sid's line for a couple of shifts did alot for his confidence. A confident Daniel Sprong is a huge boost for this team.
Simon has made me look really dumb in the last 2 games for saying he can't replace Sheary, he's been excellent. But what a surprise, play Simon with skilled center and suddenly he looks competent.
I think it is really obvious for what the lineup should be in the next game if Brassard is healthy, I think everyone would agree it should be:
Guentzel-Crosby-Simon
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Brassard-Sprong
Sheahan-Cullen-Hornqvist
It just makes sense based on how everyone is playing and for potential fits on lines. I don't like Rust on LW, but Simon should be on RW with Crosby so Rust has to go to LW.