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Watching this draft again, still baffled on how Caufield dropped so much. What a fantastic pick. It was either York or Caufield for you guys so you got a pretty good player either way.
Still not seeing it. Watching his highlights and everything is slow af around him, he’s got all the time in the world to shoot. I feel like this is a Gaudreau/Debrincat reaction pick. Hope I’m wrong and he smashes it.
Let's revisit:
I'm lukewarm with this pick. Yes, it's good to pick a player that was a consensus top 10 where we were picking. However, his size is a concern considering all our other talented players/prospects @ forward are not big or very physical (maybe Poehling?).
Some will make an arguement that talent trumps size but it doesn't have to be an either/or debate. There were other talented players available. And for those pointing to McCarron, well he was a bad pick from the very beginning... most of us knew this when he was picked.
Obviously the Habs scouts have seen these players much more so I will keep an open mind but I don't want to relive another "smurfs" episode... talent > size but size is still a very important aspect even in today's NHL.
Agreed. I feel the same about the pick but I would feel a lot better about it if we had a core that had better size balance. Shaw, Byron will likely be gone sometime in the future but Domi, Caufield, Mete, Suzuki, Droun as parts of the long term core? We will see how our roster looks in 3 years time.
I seriously don't think it matters as much as it did. The game is all about speed and a high paced intensity. Let's put size aside once and for all.
Scored at every level. Look back, try and find an obvious learning or "struggle" season.
The kid is a gifted scorer. And i suspect part of it is an ability to read and react well.
Could he bury a bunch playing with two dolts?
Few could...and any coach would want him lined up with matching talent.
It IS a reaction pick. The reaction just isn't a dusty and musty ol' "Nice kid, but that's Round 3 size."
He wasn't escaping Round 1. The gift transcends his height.
It might... but if it is a product of slow adversaries and inept defensive systems around Caufield than it is the same critique you must feel against Hughes, Turcotte and the likes... they all played in the same games against the same opponents.Still not seeing it. Watching his highlights and everything is slow af around him, he’s got all the time in the world to shoot. I feel like this is a Gaudreau/Debrincat reaction pick. Hope I’m wrong and he smashes it.
I won’t deny our team could stand to be bigger but I am not sure what the expectations were with the pick. It’s not like Newhook and Krebs (both who I like a lot) are behemoths as neither are 6’ either. Harley is over 6’, though he’s a LHD (a need) but even accounting for size, I can’t believe anyone would think Harley is BPA at #15.
I’d be debating between CC, Newhook and Krebs as well, but I think CC’s ability to both create offense and score himself is too good to pass. Yes, he isn’t perfect, but he didn’t get drafted #1 either. I’ll accept some of the shortcomings as his scoring ability is elite.
You are right, Caufield was bpa. Problem is Timmins started drafting by needs after the first round
I won't deny I'm not terribly enthused with our day 2 draft. A lot of wait and see, but I think they passed on some good players.
I won't deny I'm not terribly enthused with our day 2 draft. A lot of wait and see, but I think they passed on some good players.
When you start drafting by needs, the results can be putrid. Why draft by needs? A good fa signing can fill that lhd hole or via a trade (ghost)
Watching this draft again, still baffled on how Caufield dropped so much. What a fantastic pick. It was either York or Caufield for you guys so you got a pretty good player either way.
It’s only a problem if he flops and players picked behind him flourishYou are right, Caufield was bpa. Problem is Timmins started drafting by needs after the first round
Do you have a link on these accusations?Thanks to Philly who picked up York.... Because Bergevin and Timmins would had taken him even if Caufield would had still be available. They had a tunnel vision to draft left d-men... and that's what they have done (mostly) in the further rounds.
A lot of first rounders don't make it to the NHL. Post 1'st round,anyone who makes it in NHL is like found money.
Do you have a link on these accusations?
I'm lukewarm with this pick. Yes, it's good to pick a player that was a consensus top 10 where we were picking. However, his size is a concern considering all our other talented players/prospects @ forward are not big or very physical (maybe Poehling?).
Some will make an arguement that talent trumps size but it doesn't have to be an either/or debate. There were other talented players available. And for those pointing to McCarron, well he was a bad pick from the very beginning... most of us knew this when he was picked.
Obviously the Habs scouts have seen these players much more so I will keep an open mind but I don't want to relive another "smurfs" episode... talent > size but size is still a very important aspect even in today's NHL.
Looks like we are a bunch of stat nerds.
I was unaware that he was #1 on their listaccusations ? The word is too strong. They really wanted York. He was #1 on their list.