Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] F Tomas Tatar signs with the Avalanche (1 year, $1.5M)

[Brodeur]

Basically this year’s E-Rod signing for the Avs.

Coincidentally, Avs signed Rodrigues on September 12th last year. I hope Tatar does well for the Avs.

 

[le_sean]

Soft, maybe a little, but slow? Since when?

He hung with the Devils, who are a fast team playing an uptempo, aggressive style.

He’s not fast enough where he is still effective when the game becomes more physical. He’s useless for a playoff team and the Avs are not the Devils - they are trying for the Cup. The Devils had a stepping stone year then clued in that they are now contenders and Tatar brings absolutely nothing to those types of teams. I just don’t like the fit for the team.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

He’s not fast enough where he is still effective when the game becomes more physical. He’s useless for a playoff team and the Avs are not the Devils - they are trying for the Cup. The Devils had a stepping stone year then clued in that they are now contenders and Tatar brings absolutely nothing to those types of teams. I just don’t like the fit for the team.

It improves the roster substantially for the regular season.

Which apparently people didn't realize that the Avs did not look very good this year for the regular season. We have Drouin playing top line winger and on top of that we were 1 injury away from Miles Wood being a Top 6 winger. Adding Tatar moves everyone else down a spot which is huge for our depth.


By the time the playoffs start, the Avs will have more reinforcements here. Landeskog is still on track to return for the playoffs as of yesterday, Nikolai Kovalenko will be with the team by then(Though admittedly I'm not convinced he has much of an impact) and the Avs should be pretty aggressive at the deadline again. At least for one more forward.


Honestly the move made a lot of sense for the Avs.

 

[le_sean]

It improves the roster substantially for the regular season.

Which apparently people didn't realize that the Avs did not look very good this year for the regular season. We have Drouin playing top line winger and on top of that we were 1 injury away from Miles Wood being a Top 6 winger. Adding Tatar moves everyone else down a spot which is huge for our depth.


By the time the playoffs start, the Avs will have more reinforcements here. Landeskog is still on track to return for the playoffs as of yesterday, Nikolai Kovalenko will be with the team by then(Though admittedly I'm not convinced he has much of an impact) and the Avs should be pretty aggressive at the deadline again. At least for one more forward.


Honestly the move made a lot of sense for the Avs.

Well I’m glad you’re happy as an Avs fan. But when the playoffs roll around and he gets 1 point in 10 games while giving nothing else of value on the ice, you won’t give a shit about the regular season.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

You'd think he'd accidentally get some points in the playoffs eventually thanks to the law of large numbers.

Maybe it'll be this year.

I really think poor playoff stats get overblown, and are largely just a small sample size. Tatar’s existence is a foil to my premise.

Hope he can shed the label sometime, as I like the player and it’d help my argument.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Well I’m glad you’re happy as an Avs fan. But when the playoffs roll around and he gets 1 point in 10 games while giving nothing else of value on the ice, you won’t give a shit about the regular season.

That’s a pretty simplistic view.

Have you considered the effect of having him in the regular season does for the Avs best players come playoff time?

 

[Vinh]

Great value for some depth up front. He's excellent in possession and can handle tough minutes. At that cap hit and with the players around him, his playoff shortcomings aren't really back-breaking either.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Well I’m glad you’re happy as an Avs fan. But when the playoffs roll around and he gets 1 point in 10 games while giving nothing else of value on the ice, you won’t give a shit about the regular season.

Healthy scratch then. We won the cup with newhook doing nothing basically.

 

[MasterofGrond]

He’s not fast enough where he is still effective when the game becomes more physical. He’s useless for a playoff team and the Avs are not the Devils - they are trying for the Cup. The Devils had a stepping stone year then clued in that they are now contenders and Tatar brings absolutely nothing to those types of teams. I just don’t like the fit for the team.

You gotta play 82 games before making the playoffs, and no team is healthy the whole time. Even if you knew, TODAY, that he wouldn't even play any playoff games, a $1.5M signing is value for what he brought last year.

One extra win last season and the Avs are playing the sad sack Jets instead of the feisty Kraken in the first round.

 

[le_sean]

That’s a pretty simplistic view.

Have you considered the effect of having him in the regular season does for the Avs best players come playoff time?

Have you considered the Devils didn’t even offer him $1.5m to stay despite them wanting to contend. A bad playoff player is a bad playoff player. Doesn’t make everyone magically better because he plays 17 mins a game in the regular season.

 

[AslanRH]

Well I’m glad you’re happy as an Avs fan. But when the playoffs roll around and he gets 1 point in 10 games while giving nothing else of value on the ice, you won’t give a shit about the regular season.

We at HFAvs turn on folks much sooner than that. If he hasn't scored 18 by the end of February...Lord help him.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Have you considered the Devils didn’t even offer him $1.5m to stay despite them wanting to contend. A bad playoff player is a bad playoff player. Doesn’t make everyone magically better because he plays 17 mins a game in the regular season.

Well the Devils have, probably, the deepest forward corps in the league and maybe 3 NHL ready forwards fighting for a single starting spot WITHOUT Tatar. Doesn't mean he's not worth having to other teams.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Have you considered the Devils didn’t even offer him $1.5m to stay despite them wanting to contend. A bad playoff player is a bad playoff player. Doesn’t make everyone magically better because he plays 17 mins a game in the regular season.

Who cares about the Devils. The Avs know way more about winning in the playoffs.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Have you considered the Devils didn’t even offer him $1.5m to stay despite them wanting to contend. A bad playoff player is a bad playoff player. Doesn’t make everyone magically better because he plays 17 mins a game in the regular season.

Again, extremely simplistic.

Part of what helped the Avs win the cup was the fact that they performed so well in the regular season. Your best players have a lot less on their shoulders during the 82 game grind if you have additional depth.
During their cup win, the Avs were able to get healthy and rest up over the last 2 weeks of the season.

Last year was the opposite. The Avs best players had to play huge minutes, right up til the end. They went into the playoffs beaten up.

It doesn’t matter if Tatar doesn’t kill it in the playoffs. What matters is the offense he puts up in the regular season, makes every other players job a little easier for the marathon before the playoffs even start.

The Avs have Kovalenko coming, possibly Lamdeskog, and whatever deadline deal they make.

 

[Madap]

Great signing. Playoff thing is probably overblown and even if he does suck, it’s a 1.5M player. How much can we reasonably expect?

 

[the_fan]

If Tatar doesn’t produce in the playoffs, you can scratch him. Avs healthy scratched Burakovsky in their cup run. No problem

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Have you considered the Devils didn’t even offer him $1.5m to stay despite them wanting to contend. A bad playoff player is a bad playoff player. Doesn’t make everyone magically better because he plays 17 mins a game in the regular season.

Have you considered the Devils are deeper at forward than the Avs? And they also don't have a PPG+ elite two way winger on LTIR that's do back for game 1 of the playoffs?


Seems like you actually haven't thought much about this at all.

 

[FlameChampion]

Hard to find fault with that deal.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Well that sucks. I wanted him in Pittsburgh.

 

[CDN24]

25% of their forward group are former Habs (Tatar. Lehkonen, Drouin) combined cap hit of 6.825M. Not bad, it was 13.1M when they were Habs

 

[CokenoPepsi]

TatArrArrr

Tomas!

 

[Brodeur]

Have you considered the Devils didn’t even offer him $1.5m to stay despite them wanting to contend. A bad playoff player is a bad playoff player. Doesn’t make everyone magically better because he plays 17 mins a game in the regular season.

Tatar served his purpose here as a two year bridge. At this point we had to keep a spot open for Alex Holtz (or potentially Nolan Foote / Graeme Clarke). Even at 1.5 mil, we may need to preserve that extra cap space for the deadline.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

the guy is a mercenary

 

[Zbynek]

Great deal

 

[Puckclektr]

He’s slow and soft. I’m not exactly sure he fits the Avs style of play.

Well he fit the Devils style of play and most of us wanted him back but we had no room with upcoming rookies.
Tatar is a $3-4 million dollar player and they just signed him for $1.5