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You would get more trading him to a contending teamMaybe I overrate Panarin, I’m thinking, based on the thread.
You would get more trading him to a contending teamMaybe I overrate Panarin, I’m thinking, based on the thread.
the quote is from "the athletic"and its behind a paywall but it is word for word what I quoted. part of it was also referenced here
Panarin not looking to spend eight years in Columbus
“It’s about, does he want to spend the next eight years in Columbus?” Panarin’s Daniel Milstein said in an interview with The Athletic on Sunday. “That’s the only thing at stake right now. If it was a two-year deal we probably would have done it. But it isn’t a two-year deal. It’s [going to] have to be an extended, seven- or eight-year deal put in place.”
he goes on to say that Panarin doesnt want to remain in Columbus, that he's looking for the "Bright lights, Big City.
so to me he appears to be saying NY Or LA it seems that he has a very limited wish list. I guess it depends on what he sees as "Bright lights, Big City." but most would say that means NY Or LA,and no I dont think he's refering to anaheim the Islanders or the Sabres either
Totally understand this is how you feel. There have been other historical situations similar to this and there were 5, 10, 20 teams still interested. I think our point, as fans, is that what may not work or be considered value for some fan bases (or teams since we clearly aren't GMs) doesn't hold true for the rest of the league. Hell, I could certainly be wrong but this situation isn't unique and teams have gotten excellent value. Hell, what Rick Nash returned for this franchise was outstanding and he literally came out and said trade me, oh yeah, and only trade me to the Rangers (or a very limited number of teams).or you must have missed the point that 7 years are better than one
Oh **** we.must have missed that Panarin changed his mind and is willing to sign in columbus
im not even a ranger fan and I know Chytil is every bit as Promising As Dubois
you seem to be forgetting that Panarin isnt willing to sign in columbus PERIOD
so hes not worth what youre asking
He does too, read the athletic. Why make things up cause you're to cheap to pay for The Athletic?He never says the part I bolded in your post. He says he doesn't know if he wants to sign long term in Columbus.
Why make things up?
Not only that there is no list. Aaron Portzline guessed he wants to be in NY/LA/FL. It was click bait in another article. Dan Milstein has a direct quote that there is no list.
And no I'm point in any article or interview has Milstein or Panarin flat out said " I don't want to be in Columbus" All that's been said is he isn't sure if he wants to be here.He does too, read the athletic. Why make things up cause you're to cheap to pay for The Athletic?
No he doesn't say NY And LA but What else does bright lights mean? I'm not even sure Florida counts in that regard and I'm retired and living in Florida.
i did give the actual quote and he did say if it was 2 years it would likely be signed already but this is not a 2 year deal (referring to his being a pending free agent) he doesn't say " no I don't want to be in columbus" but he does say "bright lights." What do you consider bright lights to be? Certainly not columbus.And no I'm point in any article or interview has Milstein or Panarin flat out said " I don't want to be in Columbus" All that's been said is he isn't sure if he wants to be here.
Instead of giving a bold paraphrase why don't you give the actual quote instead of bashing people for being cheap. Not everyone wants to/is able to pay for the athletic.
And the paraphrased version says absolutely nothing about where he wants to play.i did give the actual quote and he did say if it was 2 years it would likely be signed already but this is not a 2 year deal (referring to his being a pending free agent) he doesn't say " no I don't want to be in columbus" but he does say "bright lights." What do you consider bright lights to be? Certainly not columbus.
it's understandable if you can afford the Athletic but that's why I posted the paraphrased version I found online as well , the direct html only goes to a sign up for the athletic page if you're not a subscriber
No you made it up and expect everyone to accept your "logic." Milstein makes it clear there is no list.He does too, read the athletic. Why make things up cause you're to cheap to pay for The Athletic?
No he doesn't say NY And LA but What else does bright lights mean? I'm not even sure Florida counts in that regard and I'm retired and living in Florida.
The market isn't in CBJ's favor for a couple of reasons. First, like we see with EK it seems the player is only considering a small handful of teams in UFA which severely limits the amount of team who would be interested.
Next the market is FILLED with high end wingers right now with names like Skinner, Patches, Simmonds, etc available for trade atm so that also limits CBJs ability to create any kind of bidding war.
ny is better off just offering him a competitive contract next summer, why gamble?
As mentioned numerous times, I'd rather keep the kid and attempt to sign Artemi next summer.
If he signs somewhere else, I'm fine with that as well.
This is a good sign that you don't know the value of the player you're talking about.
The Rangers haven't had a player at his level since Jagr, and Panarin is 26 years old.
let's not get carried away here, Chytil is a damn good prospect but he's not on the same planet right now as Panarin ! Rangers win by a mile !! it would have to be Chytil + to make it even close to being a fair deal.
The OP is a Ranger fan. Tell him.It's not really about value though - in a vacuum, yes, you're right - the Rangers would have to add. The point is, that right now Panarin is useless on the Rangers - he's not going to magically turn them into a cup contender - they're rebuilding. Having 7 controlled years of Chytil is much better for the Rangers than having Panarin for a year when they're most likely not even going to come close to sniffing the playoffs. The Rangers just aren't good trade partners - CBJ needs to get a haul for him at the deadline from a contending team, and considering what the Rangers got for Nash this last deadline, I have no doubt that they WILL get a haul.
let's not get carried away here, Chytil is a damn good prospect but he's not on the same planet right now as Panarin ! Rangers win by a mile !! it would have to be Chytil + to make it even close to being a fair deal.
potential superstar > actual superstar in his prime
I expected nothing less, HF.
It's not really about value though - in a vacuum, yes, you're right - the Rangers would have to add. The point is, that right now Panarin is useless on the Rangers - he's not going to magically turn them into a cup contender - they're rebuilding. Having 7 controlled years of Chytil is much better for the Rangers than having Panarin for a year when they're most likely not even going to come close to sniffing the playoffs. The Rangers just aren't good trade partners - CBJ needs to get a haul for him at the deadline from a contending team, and considering what the Rangers got for Nash this last deadline, I have no doubt that they WILL get a haul.
6 months into a rebuild this move makes no sense.
As good as Panarin is, hes not going to make the Rangers any better than he made an already good Columbus team better.
So the Rangers, who are just starting a rebuild, should trade their top prospect for a guy who turns them into a mediocre bubble team for years, eats up 9-10 million dollars of cap space or goes UFA at the end of the year. Brilliant.
Then tell Rangers fans not to make threads asking for him.Please read these before posting about how lopsided this is. Yes, the value in a vacuum is robbery for the Rangers, but given where they are and what they're doing, this deal would make no sense for them.