Chychrun’s Megathread V (poll added)

[Jamieh]

Feeling a bit persecuted??

Didn’t know I had to post an answer to every single post in this forum to justify making a response to one of yours.

I went through the trouble of even giving you an out in my last post by summing it all up as a load of unnecessary speculation.

But since you have an insatiable urge to always have the last word….


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‘Cuz it ain’t my first rodeo.

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I didn't speculate so I'm not really sure what your point was?? Except that you read one post and answered without actually reading the conversation.

 

[Mangosteen]

Dang do this trade already.. It’s gone on way to long

 

[Jamieh]

Dang do this trade already.. It’s gone on way to long

Sure is a weird summer. Klingberg settles for a 1 year deal, Chychrun so far has not had ask met, and guys like Chariot and Gudbranson get the brinks truck???

 

[Jormungandr]

Dang do this trade already.. It’s gone on way to long

There's no speculation of any kind that it is even being worked on at this point. I don't know what you are expecting.

 

[rt]

Jamie and Ontario sittin’ in a tree…k-i-s-s-i-n-g!

If you love Ontario so much, why don’t you marry it!

Nah nah nah boo boo!

 

[Jamieh]

Jamie and Ontario sittin’ in a tree…k-i-s-s-i-n-g!

If you love Ontario so much, why don’t you marry it!

Nah nah nah boo boo!

I thought you quit drinking??

 

[rt]

I thought you quit drinking??

I get it. Ontario sobriety is the superior sobriety. We just can’t get sobriety like that in Arizona. It’s not authentic, Ontario style sobriety.

 

[rt]

 

[Coyotes19c]

This is a weird situation with Chychrun. Seems like a lot of smoke involving Ottawa but at the same time it just seems not likely at all. Craig has stated over and over he believes he won’t be traded before the season.

 

[Jamieh]

I get it. Ontario sobriety is the superior sobriety. We just can’t get sobriety like that in Arizona. It’s not authentic, Ontario style sobriety.

You guys sure get your panties in a bunch whenever someone provides a different perspective. I'm not from Ont so certainly not an expert on their sobriety

 

[rt]

You guys sure get your panties in a bunch whenever someone provides a different perspective. I'm not from Ont so certainly not an expert on their sobriety

Try not to be wounded by good spirited razzing. Things will become clearer.

 

[Youngguns80]

Well you were trying real hard to sell the Ontario connection.

I just put it a more reasonable context.

Johnny Gaudreau was all set to go anywhere but C-Bus yet that’s where he ended up. Figuring out where Chychrun would go is an exercise in futility. Because it’s going to depend on what BA is willing to take for him.

Johnny asked to come to Columbus.

 

[Schemp]

This is a weird situation with Chychrun. Seems like a lot of smoke involving Ottawa but at the same time it just seems not likely at all. Craig has stated over and over he believes he won’t be traded before the season.

We are all waiting for camp to start to see how this saga plays out.

 

[TheLegend]

Johnny asked to come to Columbus.

Understand that… point was everyone else speculated him landing somewhere else other than C-bus.

 

[TheLegend]

This is a weird situation with Chychrun. Seems like a lot of smoke involving Ottawa but at the same time it just seems not likely at all. Craig has stated over and over he believes he won’t be traded before the season.

Remember Ottawa is run by the guy who was hawking cannabis in Canada before going there.

It’ll be a done deal in just two more weeks.

 

[rt]

Vote: Accept or Reject

To OTT
Chychrun

To ARI
Zaitsev
Brannstrom
Greig
2023 OTT 1st (c.)*

*(c.) if 2023 OTT 1st is Top 10, then pick converts to unconditional 2024 OTT 1st.

 

[lanky]

Accept begrudgingly.

I'd be happy with it overall if the condition was for top 5 protection.
I'm accepting it anyway since I'm just ready to move on from this saga.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Vote: Accept or Reject

To OTT
Chychrun

To ARI
Zaitsev
Brannstrom
Greig
2023 OTT 1st (c.)*

*(c.) if 2023 OTT 1st is Top 10, then pick converts to unconditional 2024 OTT 1st.

Add a second for Zaitsev. No reason to take him aside from just doing them a favor.

 

[hbk]

Vote: Accept or Reject

To OTT
Chychrun

To ARI
Zaitsev
Brannstrom
Greig
2023 OTT 1st (c.)*

*(c.) if 2023 OTT 1st is Top 10, then pick converts to unconditional 2024 OTT 1st.

add a 2nd in a future year (the HF trade balancer special) and a conditional pick if the 2023 pick has to be moved to a future year as well.

 

[rt]

This is the closest to a consensus agreement on both sides I think I’ve ever seen.

 

[XX]

Vote: Accept or Reject

To OTT
Chychrun

To ARI
Zaitsev
Brannstrom
Greig
2023 OTT 1st (c.)*

*(c.) if 2023 OTT 1st is Top 10, then pick converts to unconditional 2024 OTT 1st.

Needs another asset to offset Zaitsev and the pick uncertainty. Brannstrom has very little value, if any. So it's basically Greig+hoping for a pick in the teens for Chychrun less Zaitsev's negative value. That's not going to be enough for BA IMO.

 

[jmelm]

Vote: Accept or Reject

To OTT
Chychrun

To ARI
Zaitsev
Brannstrom
Greig
2023 OTT 1st (c.)*

*(c.) if 2023 OTT 1st is Top 10, then pick converts to unconditional 2024 OTT 1st.

Given the inclusion of cap dump Zaitsev, I'm not ok with the 2023 pick becoming a 2024 unless there's also a conditional '23 2nd rounder that gets transferred if the 1st round pick is deferred a year.

I would still try to extract a 2nd rounder for the Zaitsev dump -- it would normally cost a 1st rounder if not more to dump Zaitsev if he wasn't part of a bigger deal -- but if that wasn't possible and this was truly the best offer on the table, I would vote yes (except for the deferral of the 1st to '24 as mentioned above).

add a 2nd in a future year (the HF trade balancer special) and a conditional pick if the 2023 pick has to be moved to a future year as well.

I disagree. 2023 is an important year as we all know. So if the '23 1st is deferred to '24, then the '23 2nd should be included.

Similarly, if the 2023 is not deferred and we were able to get another 2nd for the Zaitsev dump, that could be in either year ('23 or '24)

 

[Heldig]

Vote: Accept or Reject

To OTT
Chychrun

To ARI
Zaitsev
Brannstrom
Greig
2023 OTT 1st (c.)*

*(c.) if 2023 OTT 1st is Top 10, then pick converts to unconditional 2024 OTT 1st.

I had the same deal accepted EXCEPT replacing Brannstrom with Klevin.

 

[rt]

I had the same deal accepted EXCEPT replacing Brannstrom with Klevin.

Kleven > Brannstrom

 

[hbk]

Given the inclusion of cap dump Zaitsev, I'm not ok with the 2023 pick becoming a 2024 unless there's also a conditional '23 2nd rounder that gets transferred if the 1st round pick is deferred a year.

I would still try to extract a 2nd rounder for the Zaitsev dump -- it would normally cost a 1st rounder if not more to dump Zaitsev if he wasn't part of a bigger deal -- but if that wasn't possible and this was truly the best offer on the table, I would vote yes (except for the deferral of the 1st to '24 as mentioned above).



I disagree. 2023 is an important year as we all know. So if the '23 1st is deferred to '24, then the '23 2nd should be included.

Similarly, if the 2023 is not deferred and we were able to get another 2nd for the Zaitsev dump, that could be in either year ('23 or '24)

Understandable. Have that as the conditional 2nd that becomes a future 2nd if AZ gets to keep the 2013 1st.