Prospect Info: CHL, NCAA and European 2018-19 Prospects Thread II

[Cheddabombs]

get errr done Ray

 

[Sens]

Guy goes kind of unmentioned but Hellickson plays a very steady game and might develop into something. Might not too obviously but just a thought.

Eric Weinrich said he has the best first pass among Devil prospect defensemen this past summer

 

[NJDevils17]

Davies apparently averages like 30 mins a game too. Kid is a stud.

 

[OmNomNom]

i believe davies is the prospect who had massive quads, as shown by julie robenhymer's photos during the ping pong tournament. like tree trunks

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Davies apparently averages like 30 mins a game too. Kid is a stud.

I really do think he'll be our next andy greene (that is, assuming he signs here)

 

[Devils Dominion]

I really do think he'll be our next andy greene (that is, assuming he signs here)

Hopefully better

 

[Unknown Caller]

Hopefully better

Greene was a legit top pairing defenseman in his prime. Davies turning into Greene would be huge.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Greene was a legit top pairing defenseman in his prime. Davies turning into Greene would be huge.

Disagree

 

[Cheddabombs]

Even if Greene was apparently only a #3 defenseman in his prime (he was a top pair but ill play along), having a 7th rounder turn into that is still massive.

 

[tailfins]

Disagree

Davies is already 22. The chances that he’s anything more than a 6/7 dman are slim. Developing into prime Andy Greene would be incredible. This shouldn’t be a discussion on your hindsight take on Andy Greene. It’s a discussion of what Davies could be.

And sure it would be even better if he could become prime Scott Niedermayer. But this also has to have some sense of reality.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Disagree

Solid analysis.

 

[Billdo]

Davies is already 22. The chances that he’s anything more than a 6/7 dman are slim. Developing into prime Andy Greene would be incredible. This shouldn’t be a discussion on your hindsight take on Andy Greene. It’s a discussion of what Davies could be.

And sure it would be even better if he could become prime Scott Niedermayer. But this also has to have some sense of reality.

His age has nothing to do with it.

 

[Devils731]

His age has nothing to do with it.

It does when you’re talking potential. If Davies was doing this same play at 19 years old as opposed to 22 we could project a much bigger future for him.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

You guys who think Greene sucked is just salty because he wasn't what you guys wanted him to be. He was a solid defenseman in his prime. End of story.

 

[OmNomNom]

Davies is already 22. The chances that he’s anything more than a 6/7 dman are slim. Developing into prime Andy Greene would be incredible. This shouldn’t be a discussion on your hindsight take on Andy Greene. It’s a discussion of what Davies could be.

And sure it would be even better if he could become prime Scott Niedermayer. But this also has to have some sense of reality.

the maturity argument isn't bad at all, but look at who he had as teammates his freshman year, and their scoring totals - zacharay aston-reece, dylan sikura, and adam gaudette were putting up well over 1 PPG. in '17-'18, northeastern finished 2nd (behind BC). gaudette and sikura left after last season, so that left a big hole, but davies is still currently leading the team in points. it's not like he scrubbed it up his freshman/soph year either

 

[Triumph]

Davies is already 22. The chances that he’s anything more than a 6/7 dman are slim. Developing into prime Andy Greene would be incredible. This shouldn’t be a discussion on your hindsight take on Andy Greene. It’s a discussion of what Davies could be.

And sure it would be even better if he could become prime Scott Niedermayer. But this also has to have some sense of reality.

Davies is already 22 and the odds that he develops into Andy Greene are slim. The chances that he is something more than a 6/7 Dman are not slim.

 

[OmNomNom]

Davies is already 22 and the odds that he develops into Andy Greene are slim. The chances that he is something more than a 6/7 Dman are not slim.

developing into prime andy greene really isn't that bad. but that's not his game anyway

 

[Lou is God]

It does when you’re talking potential. If Davies was doing this same play at 19 years old as opposed to 22 we could project a much bigger future for him.

When he was 19-20 years old he kinda did, he had 23 points in 38 games and while his play is much stronger overall today, his game was solid back then

 

[Devils731]

When he was 19-20 years old he kinda did, he had 23 points in 38 games and while his play is much stronger overall today, his game was solid back then

For me, those seasons aren’t really close. His raw point scoring is significantly different and this year he leads his team in points while his freshman year he was 6th in points and had almost 3 times less points than the team leader.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

You're aware that Andy Greene didn't break into the league until he was 24, right?

 

[DerekDevils30]

My god, if we could get a prime Andy Greene out of Davies, I would be over the moon. Greene was fantastic from 2009-10 through the 2013-2014 season. I think it's fair to say Davies has more offensive potential than Greene but I don't think his defensive game is similar at all. That's a lot to task of a 7th round pick.

@Devils Dominion

If you would be disappointed with Davies having a Greene-type career, is it safe to say your expectations are way too high for a 7th round pick?

 

[Devils731]

Greene was a force his junior and senior year and produced a lot of offense. He was his conferences offensive and defensive defenseman of the year in the same year.

I’d love Andy Greene’s career from most late first round picks.

 

[OmNomNom]

For me, those seasons aren’t really close. His raw point scoring is significantly different and this year he leads his team in points while his freshman year he was 6th in points and had almost 3 times less points than the team leader.

did you see my post? his freshman and sophomore year, they had crazy talent. couple that with the maturity argument and yeah, sikura and ZAR were gonna destroy him

 

[Devils731]

did you see my post? his freshman and sophomore year, they had crazy talent. couple that with the maturity argument and yeah, sikura and ZAR were gonna destroy him

And that’s the point, age plays a big deal into projecting future NHL success.

Davies is doing great but I think it’s important to say being 22 years old and doing this is significantly different than being 19 and doing this.

I also think people are discounting how good Andy Greene’s career is and how dominant he was in college his junior and senior year.

 

[OmNomNom]

And that’s the point, age plays a big deal into projecting future NHL success.

Davies is doing great but I think it’s important to say being 22 years old and doing this is significantly different than being 19 and doing this.

I also think people are discounting how good Andy Greene’s career is and how dominant he was in college his junior and senior year.

the thing with NCAA players though, is that they're pretty highly regarded due to quality of competition - you're sometimes facing guys who are 23 years old. scouts seem to think he thinks the game well