Lafleurs Guy
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- Jul 20, 2007
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Okay, I'll reply.None of the goalies played less than 10 games in a season.
Those are the rankings for Price in the past 4 years for Goals Saved Above Expected in the last 4 seasons (minimum 10 games played)
2020-2021: 24
2019-2020: 37
2018-2019: 22
2017-2018: 63 (The season you said he was great and no other goalie would have done better)
1. I didn't say he was good in 2018. I said he was bad in 2018. I said that D crushed him and then he got hurt. It was a nightmare year. That was the year Weber got hurt, we signed freaking Alzner and put in guys like Schlemko. I also pointed out that Niemi did okay in a backup role with people saying he should be the starter next year and of course he got absolutely demolished in the following seasons.
2. I said his numbers were sub .900 the following year until Weber came back from injury and he went .920+ the rest of the way. That was a great season by any measurement. It reinforced what I had argued that without some defensive support, his numbers would drop. I said it back then and that's EXACTLY what happened. Weber came back and his numbers jumped.
3. I said that our club is the 2nd worst team in the league at allowing high danger shots for the past two seasons (not including this one) and he's done very well behind bad teams in that time. I said that last year we played the ever living shit out of Price down the stretch just as we did before because we were desperate for a playoff spot and our backups couldn't be counted on for wins behind that D.
4. I argued that his GSAA last year showed that he was a lot better than his raw save percentage suggests. Esp considering the volume of shots that he faces. And I posted an article in support of this which you ignored. That article argues that he was a top ten goalie last year. Whether that's true or not doesn't really matter... what does matter is that his .909 should be put in context and I don't see how anyone can argue that it's a bad year considering what he was playing behind. .909 is pedestrian, not terrible. But he's playing a ton of hockey behind bad defensive teams.
5. I argued that comparing backup goalies to starters was a ridiculous exercise because backups don't have the volume of shots that starters do. And backups are sheltered from harder teams. Since that time I've been proven correct again on this. Allen's save percentage before becoming the starter was .921. Since becoming the starter it's .896. Almost a 30 point drop. And I think Allen has played well btw. I think he's been left out to dry way too much and to make matters worse, this team hasn't been able to score. But... this is nothing new. It's been this way for years.
As for this season, he was bad to start for sure. And Allen was better in my opinion to start. But that's not a big deal considering how short a period of time it was, esp when he rebounded with a good stretch afterwards.
The fact of the matter is this: Whether it's Price, Allen or Niemi... we have given our goalies little support. We put them in a position to fail. It's a stupid way to run your team. And Price's cap hit has zero to do with this. We went two years with almost ten mil in open cap space. It's unbelievably stupid way to run the team. At least we have Caufield now... maybe we can actually start winning some games again.
If I get any more "harderer shot" crap replies, I'm done with you. If you want to chat on this, I'll talk with you all day long. But don't waste my time with that shit.
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