Post-Game Talk: Caps stumble but then bully their way to a 5-4 OTW over the Cats.

[Gentle Man]

I watched a lot of Devils hockey when Boyler was playing up there; got to see 1st hand a bunch of games (was working in the city)... Hall is surrounded NOW by a bunch of decent players... and a coach that I like but don't love, like I love Q

Get Hall. He's not going to re-sign with Devs (in my op because the Devs are not playoff bound this year and no where near SCF bound).

But who would get traded?

Hoffman +

 

[FinlandPanther]

Don't worry, there are more people on here who think that Bob can do no wrong.

It’s not about doing no wrong. He’s not the problem.

 

[FinlandPanther]

How many more games do we have to outplay the opposition and watch their goalie not give softies before bob starts taking his share of the heat?

Softies lol. What goalie hurt you?

 

[RogerRoger]

It’s not about doing no wrong. He’s not the problem.

He's certainly not helping. If he's going to play like a mediocre goalie (and I'm being generous), it would have been nice to save 8M of his salary to shore up the defense or scoring since we need to pot in 4-5 goals a game to win when he's in net.

 

[vendetta]

Softies lol. What goalie hurt you?

So cause I blamed goalies last year and this year for the first time a goalie hurt me? I didn’t blame goalies two years ago. Or before that. Why all the sudden? Maybe cause they haven’t pulled their weight

 

[ProjectPanthers]

I wouldn't even care about Hoffman being one dimensional but right now he's literally killing offensive momentum for this team. It's extremely frustrating to watch him play this season.

I think they should take him off the top PP unit.

 

[FinlandPanther]

He's certainly not helping. If he's going to play like a mediocre goalie (and I'm being generous), it would have been nice to save 8M of his salary to shore up the defense or scoring since we need to pot in 4-5 goals a game to win when he's in net.

This team is brain dead defensively. We let Hagelin go in all alone. He robbed Ovechkin on a one timer up close and then robbed him again 2 inches away from the net. He saved every single one. Bob faces super high quality chances all the time and we wonder why he gets shelled.

 

[FinlandPanther]

So cause I blamed goalies last year and this year for the first time a goalie hurt me? I didn’t blame goalies two years ago. Or before that. Why all the sudden? Maybe cause they haven’t pulled their weight

Our defense has been horrible and they are a huge reason why Bob hasn’t pulled his weight.

 

[PJ817]

Hoffman +

My questions:

1. What is the deal with Hoffy's wife? I don't dig into the drama-llama stuff (and despite what some may think & despite that I do, in fact, follow Lauren Boyle's IG account, I NEVER state anything that's not already public and very rarely with that either) so with Hoffy's wife, I do not know... did the stuff with EK become public? How much of that has been apologized for, remediated, etc?

Because, to me, if #1 isn't taken care of... what team wants that to be part of their locker-room? Granted, I have never been in the locker-room and have no desire to do so but, as a leader in my own world, if I know of a cancer that can possibly spread, I don't hire it.

2. Who/what else do the Cats have to offer? Picks? Jersey has them, not quite like OTT does but I think they are well positioned (again) for the 2020 draft

Truly trying to understand... if this were the Bolts I could digress into a bunny hole discussing but I'm new to the Cats

3. Athanasiou seems like a solid player but I don't see the Yzerwizard giving him as he tries to build that team; right now his +/- is terrible but he's also playing on a semipro team (don't hate, it's true )

 

[Panthers Propaganda]

Solid game by Weegar tonight, 2 goals!

 

[RogerRoger]

This team is brain dead defensively. We let Hagelin go in all alone. He robbed Ovechkin on a one timer up close and then robbed him again 2 inches away from the net. He saved every single one. Bob faces super high quality chances all the time and we wonder why he gets shelled.

Ovie hit the side of the net, Bob didn't save that.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Ovie hit the side of the net, Bob didn't save that.

My point still stands. This team is a bottom 3 team defensively. We have like 2 players that understand how to defend the crease,

 

[Panthers Propaganda]

Also if Ekblad had wacked at it again it would have gone right through the 5 hole but he didn’t, that’s one you want back

 

[PanthersHockey1]

The panthers need more help on the backend by unloading Hoffman and yandle to make room for younger faster smarter dmen.

 

[Mogo]

I wouldn't even care about Hoffman being one dimensional but right now he's literally killing offensive momentum for this team. It's extremely frustrating to watch him play this season.

I think they should take him off the top PP unit.

If he even was one dimensional. He's a black hole atm

 

[PanthersHockey1]

The good news is Matheson looks a lot better this year.

 

[vendetta]

My point still stands. This team is a bottom 3 team defensively. We have like 2 players that understand how to defend the crease,

If all these chances that you claim are happening they would show up somewhere in expected goals or high danger chances against. They aren’t there. Period. Every deflection thru traffic isn’t on the defense. Every rebound isn’t on defense. Bob losing track of puck and being out of
Position isn’t on defense. It’s chaotic sometimes. Game after game the opposition goalie finds ways to make more of these saves than bob cause they are happening both ways. Every metric says we create more than we give so why is it our d is so bad or bottom 3? You have nothing to back up your bogus claims. If u think .870 is good enough reguardless of our d then you clearly have a narrative.

 

[vendetta]

The good news is Matheson looks a lot better this year.

Matheson ekblad stralman amd weegar all better and soak up a to. Of minutes. Yandle has been fine the last 5 games as well yet our save percentage rate is worse than last year when our goalies could t stop a beach ball. How is bob getting a pass?

 

[FinlandPanther]

If all these chances that you claim are happening they would show up somewhere in expected goals or high danger chances against. They aren’t there. Period. Every deflection thru traffic isn’t on the defense. Every rebound isn’t on defense. Bob losing track of puck and being out of
Position isn’t on defense. It’s chaotic sometimes. Game after game the opposition goalie finds ways to make more of these saves than bob cause they are happening both ways. Every metric says we create more than we give so why is it our d is so bad or bottom 3? You have nothing to back up your bogus claims. If u think .870 is good enough reguardless of our d then you clearly have a narrative.

You've had a narrative every year where you think all our players are perfect, but our goalies aren't. Ill trust my intuition.

 

[Boothinator]

Still didn't play with our whole forward group. I will take that point

 

[PanthersHockey1]

Ya if 3 different goalies give you the same stat line to me that is a correlation of bad defense not bad goaltending.

As a team and I blame the forwards a lot, we just seem to not be smart enough, physical enough or positioned well enough in our own end. A lot of little errors throughout the game turn into goals against. They let the opposition d men sit alone at the blue line free to take shots which are easily deflected or rebounds put back because we can’t box out guys in front of our own net.

I’m surprised the team is playing a very loose fast transition style of hockey which we also played under bougner with little result. The panthers are not skilled nor smart enough to beat teams like Washington in this fashion. I preferred gallants teams that would trap the f*** out of the neutral zone to slow the other team down.

We concede a ton of chances off the rush as we are either lazy or unaware in transition.

The entire team needs to commit to playing better man on man defense every single shift.

 

[vendetta]

You've had a narrative every year where you think all our players are perfect, but our goalies aren't. Ill trust my intuition.

Every year lol . Ya started last year and carried over to this year. Look at our save percentage and wonder why.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Ya if 3 different goalies give you the same stat line to me that is a correlation of bad defense not bad goaltending.

As a team and I blame the forwards a lot, we just seem to not be smart enough, physical enough or positioned well enough in our own end. A lot of little errors throughout the game turn into goals against. They let the opposition d men sit alone at the blue line free to take shots which are easily deflected or rebounds put back because we can’t box out guys in front of our own net.

I’m surprised the team is playing a very loose fast transition style of hockey which we also played under bougner with little result. The panthers are not skilled nor smart enough to beat teams like Washington in this fashion. I preferred gallants teams that would trap the **** out of the neutral zone to slow the other team down.

We concede a ton of chances off the rush as we are either lazy or unaware in transition.

The entire team needs to commit to playing better man on man defense every single shift.

It's a learning curve, we're just 15 games into the season under Q. I don't have any problem with the way they played, they'll get better as the season progresses.

 

[vendetta]

Ya if 3 different goalies give you the same stat line to me that is a correlation of bad defense not bad goaltending.

As a team and I blame the forwards a lot, we just seem to not be smart enough, physical enough or positioned well enough in our own end. A lot of little errors throughout the game turn into goals against. They let the opposition d men sit alone at the blue line free to take shots which are easily deflected or rebounds put back because we can’t box out guys in front of our own net.

I’m surprised the team is playing a very loose fast transition style of hockey which we also played under bougner with little result. The panthers are not skilled nor smart enough to beat teams like Washington in this fashion. I preferred gallants teams that would trap the **** out of the neutral zone to slow the other team down.

We concede a ton of chances off the rush as we are either lazy or unaware in transition.

The entire team needs to commit to playing better man on man defense every single shift.

Again these tons of chances are a complete fabrication. The numbers don’t say that at all. We consistently create more than our opposition. Period

 

[vendetta]

Washington Capitals @ Florida Panthers, 2019-11-07
here’s the numbers and heat map. We give up too many chances. We give up too much quality in front. This shows the opposite.