OT: Capitals Cinema Club: TV and Movies

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  1. usiel Aegrescit medendo

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    Mod note for thread: if you post spoilers/speculation/rumors regarding recent TV shows or movies use the spoiler tag. This includes plot twists, mood references, alive/dead comments, or anything that might offer clues to what viewers can expect, excepting a personal thumbs up or down. Be careful when quoting text tagged as spoilers. If you really want to talk with someone about spoiler content in detail, use a PM. Basically, just be considerate of your fellow posters who may not be as current as you.

    Westworld S3 is great so far.
     
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  2. AlexBrovechkin8 Playoff chokers, they said.

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    My wife is in mourning that the Duke of Hastings is not returning to Bridgerton.

    I believe her exact quote was, “What the hell is the point of watching the show now?” :laugh:
     
  3. usiel Aegrescit medendo

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    DC Comic characters are never really going to compete with Marvel as a whole. I remember my collecting hayday back in the late 80s and early 90s just how ridiculous the DC super heroes were I just couldn't deal...just more cartoony in general.

    Aren't the books basically setup like an anthology series? Having not read them (nor ever will) does the Duke even show up in the 2nd book. But from a fan perspective totally get it. Though the Duke and his love interest had some surprisingly good chemistry.
     
  4. Hivemind We're Touched

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    Can't disagree more. DC needs to get far far far away from Snyder.

    Was the Snyder cut better than the Whedon version? Yeah, but that's not a high bar to clear. Was it actually a good movie? No.

    Snyder is an interesting visual director, but having him involved in the writing and storytelling is just a poor decision. He's about as subtle as a monster truck, and struggles to find a consistent tone. He beats the audience in the face with his "superheroes would be seen as Gods" theme until our nose is bloody, but doesn't actually integrate that into his plot in any meaningful way. And he tries to create a "gritty" experience for the viewer, but does so in the same movie that has space aliens fighting over Totally-Not-Infinity-Stones with a CGI-Cyborg flying around the screen. If you want the audience to feel the weight of the story and feel the grit of the world, you can't ask us to suspend our disbelief that much for such a fantasy-oriented plot and action sequences. Gritty superhero movies are practically a genre to themselves at this point, and virtually every other one of these has understood this (and even Snyder understood this better in his adaptation of The Watchmen, in which he intentionally removed the space monster).

    And even from a visual standpoint, there's the whole 4:3 aspect ratio mess. 4:3 isn't IMAX, this isn't going to be shown on IMAX, this wasn't filmed on IMAX cameras, and this wasn't originally framed for a 4:3 aspect ratio. So why is he pretending it's 4:3 for IMAX? It just seems like he wants to stir up controversy and debate more than actually make a good movie. Same with the whole black & white version. Reeks of pretension and measuring his success by the amount of people talking about his movie online (which, granted, I'm doing right now). Not to mention the fact that literally 10% of the movie is in slow motion. We get it Zack, 300 was really cool and slow motion was a big part of that. But you don't have to load so much of that into your movies anymore. ESPECIALLY when slow motion is also being used to establish the speed of the Flash, having other scenes in slomo (many of which are pointlessly so) detracts from the distinguishing factor of the Flash.

    Not to mention that BvS is still awful.

    I do agree the runtime could have been cut down significantly. Random Norwegian women singing to Aquaman and sniffing his sweater? Not needed. Side plot involving Comissioner Gordon that's forgotten the second after he appears on screen? Ditch it. The Flash applying for a job at a doggy daycare and making googoo eyes at some girl who's never seen again? Cut it. Underwater exposition scenes about some offscreen political drama involving the King of Atlantis? Why was it even there. Wonder Woman saving a bunch of people in a museum from Roose Bolton and self-described terrorists* who have no demands yet still put their bomb on a timer instead of detonating it right away? Unnecessary. Steppenwolf constantly reporting to middle management in the Darkseid HR department? Only needs to happen once, not three times. The entire freaking epilogue? Complete waste that's only there to get #Restorethesnyderverse into social media


    *Also, what terrorist calls themself a terrrorist? Freedom fighter or revolutionary or something like that, sure. But nobody thinks of themselves as the bad guy.
     
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    I hadn't thought about that until now (having not bothered with this version) but that's a really excellent point from a cinematic perspective: if you're going to use slow motion to help us relate to a character moving at super speed, you kind of can't play with slow motion in other scenes where the only point is to say "hey, look how neat this is". I wouldn't say Snyder does a ton of this as an artist-- he does a ton of slow motion, obviously, but there aren't usually opportunities to undercut his own process like that-- but it wasn't a hard shot to call that he'd be all over the place here and that's a really good example of how "loose" this vision seems to have been.

    Having not seen it, it seems kind of like a mix between using the Snyder cut as an opportunity to just throw everything from the treatment straight into the movie and a fever dream. I can see preferring it to the original release with all its weird re-shoots and tone shifts, but like... Spiderman 3 is also better than the original release of Justice League and you don't see people saying a lot of nice things about it.
     
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    I thought that I would have a prob with the 4k 4:3 standard but surprisingly I quickly didn't notice. Not sure if I am just keyed at this point to the black bars on the top and bottom or my age watching things mostly 4:3 till dvds became a thing for home video.

    Snyder's The Watchmen still one of my most favorite super hero films of all time.

    Now that I've thought about it one problem with DC is other than Batman and a few others grimdark style doesn't fit like a circle block in square hole.

    Mildly intriguing on Netflix in May. Not familiar with the source material.



    Netflix keeps adapting supposedly popular young adult fantasy series that I have never heard of.



    Now apparently A Court of Thorns and Roses is getting adapted with Ronald Moore heading it for Hulu that is actually a pretty good series and Moore with a good recent track record. There does seem to be a run of grim dark young female trained assassin vengeance quest type YA but this one is one of the better ones. Jay Kristoff's Nevernight being one (world building pretty amazing).

    ‘A Court Of Thorns And Roses’ Series Based On Fantasy Books In Works At Hulu From Ron Moore & Sarah J. Maas – Deadline
     
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  7. tenken00 Oh it's going down in Chinatown

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    Haven't watched the Snyder Cut yet, and I do agree that Snyder's movies aren't all that, but I LOVED The Watchmen, although I've never seen the theatrical cut for it, only the director's cut + ultimate cut that was more faithful to the graphic novel.
     
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    I worked on a Zach Synder movie that is coming out soon. Army of the Dead is a netflix zombie casino movie have faith in the man when he gets away from bad comic books.
     
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    nice, cannot wait for that! Snyder is a favorite Director of mine.


    FWIW, Snyder Cut was better, but I also enjoyed the original release.

    mostly I’m happy the horrific CGI of Superman’s face is gone......

    heads should have rolled for allowing that BS.

    Watchmen is fantastic. One of my all time favorites. Seen every released cut lol.
     
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    Director's cut of course is the best. I can't quite rememember if I saw it in the theater though fairly certain but after at least 5+ rewatches over the years can't recall the theatrical.
     
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    I really think the only thing I don't like about that movie is the god awful Hallelujah cover.
     
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    its soooo hard to F that song up too! (But they tried). For me parts of that cover with the visuals is decent....but if I was just listening.....terrible.
     
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    Yeah, specifically in the movie I sort of fade in and out between "this works for the scene" and "what is this noise I'm hearing" and everywhere else I've heard it, I'm really not a fan.
     
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    Anyone watch the 3 part Ken Burns Hemingway documentary on PBS? I probably saw about 3.5 of the 6 hours but thought it was really interesting and of course very well done. I definitely recommend it and plan to go back and watch it all when I can.
     
  15. Silky mitts It’s yours boys and girls and babes let’s go!

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    the thumbnail is killing me
     
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    I’m about 15 mins into Kingsglaive: Final Fantasy XV on Netflix and it’s freakin awesome!

    I finished DOTA Dragon’s Blood season 1....that was solid fantasy animation. (Even if Candyman was one of the voice actors lol)
     
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    Watching Shtisel on Netflix. I am really enjoying it.
     
  19. tenken00 Oh it's going down in Chinatown

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    The interesting thing about Kingsglaive in that the movie is actually pretty necessary to play the actual game Final Fantasy XV. Like the game puts you right in the story right after watching the movie, assumes you've watched this separate piece of media (when it came out it wasn't available to view for free anywhere) and doesn't explain much at all about the movie in the game. Pretty crazy move.
     
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    oh I was totally dropped in virtually unaware of the story....haven’t played a FF game since maybe 10. Still....sick animation, fighting, monsters and magic.....I loved it. Interesting gimmick with the actual game...
     
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    Lol yeah, the game drops you into the story right after the movie ends assuming you bought the game and the movie (for a separate price of course!).

    There was a lot of confusion for people playing the game.
     
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    I'll have to check out Kingsglaive. I played FF15 a while ago and was disappointed with it, but maybe Kingsglaive will help flesh out some of the story for me.

    I wasn't aware watching it was necessary to fully understand the story for the game.
     
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    The weapon/magic of the hero in Kingsglaive is awesome....so multipurpose and cleverly used for fighting, rescue, escape, general travel, etc....
     
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    There were also 5 Episodes of DLCs (paid for separately) and I think also a short film or 2.

    Basically, in order to understand the whole game, they split it all up into different packages to be bought.

    After the disaster that was FF 13, I was massively disappointed in 15.

    The movie by itself was pretty self contained. But to have your game and the pinnacle of your organization's intellectual property rely on different paid-for media to understand what is going on is such a blatant money grab.
     
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    Yeah I was pretty disenchanted with the Final Fantasy series until the FF7 remake came out. The FF7 remake is so, so good. I highly recommend it to everyone!
     
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    I liked it okay but all the faces look like Shrek people and once I noticed it I couldn't stop.
     
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