And even though Dahlen bombed it was by far the single best transaction Benning has ever made in terms of getting value in a deal that made sense for where the team was at.
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And even though Dahlen bombed it was by far the single best transaction Benning has ever made in terms of getting value in a deal that made sense for where the team was at.
I disagree completely. Last year strategy was to sign Beagle, Rousell, Schaller so we can give the young guys a chance to play an offensive role and give them easier minutes but that plan failed.
Goldobin was given an opportunity in the top 6, he failed
Leipsic as well but failed and he was put him on waivers
Baer was given opportunity to play bigger role and higher in the lineup. Failed because of concussion
All this talk last year but Vets are holding back young players is non sense. Dahlen and Gaudette were not even ready the start of last year. Dahlen is not even ready in the ahl, let alone the nhl. The only thing Gaudette has proven so far is that he is not a liability. Green gave him shelter mins and he still struggle to keep pace in the nhl, makes quick decision with the puck and he got off knock off puck so easily. You want to give him more mins? If Gaudette can't handle easy mins? How is he able to handle tougher mins? You are right we should send him to the ahl.
Only examples, I can think of is Stecher and Tryamkin and that was 3 years ago. Stecher earned a spot and was sent down, but when he got called up and proves he can play in the nhl. He was given opportunities right away even when they were other healthy D.
Tryamkin as well, Being healthy scratched for 10 straight game to start the season didnt make sense.
Both examples are from Willy days, can't think of any Green examples that he was holding back a young player that was ready.
Last 3 years, if a young player earn a spot, they will make room. Examples Shipped out Nilsson and let Demko be the backup.
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I would offer Tanev for Craig Smith. Both have 1 year left and making about the same salary. Value should be about the same. Craig Smith will look good in the top 6. Let Biega be a regular on D. Nash might want a D to replace some of mins by Subban. They can transition Fabbro slowly.
Top 6 of Petey Horvat Boeser Miller Smith Pearson. No way Canucks can struggle to score goals with that top 6
Top 6 of Petey Horvat Boeser Miller Smith Pearson. No way Canucks can struggle to score goals with that top 6
Agree. But lot of the praise for Amateur scouting is speculative. (let's see how some turn out before we get carried away). And we really haven't got much yet out of mid to lower end draft. Pro Scouting, mostly by the Dim One, has been horrible.
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I am just curious if anyone sees this team as a playoff team as it stands.
Obviously Francisco, Benning and Company do.
I see a lottery pick this season.
Obviously Francisco, Benning and Company do.
I see a lottery pick this season.
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In a recent poll on this forum, about 71% said they would not make the playoffs this season, 39% said they would.
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StrictlyCommercial
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Better than last year, whether that's enough for playoffs...
No RealGud, No Pooliot, no Grangod equals a measurable addition by subtraction.
Lots of “ifs”
If Miller pans out as a strong addition to either EP’s or Bo’s line.
If EP doesn’t have a sophomore slump and repeats his excellent past season.
If Tanev/Edler/Sven/Sutter/etc. all stay reasonably healthy. Or at least healthier than in seasons past.
If Markstrom has another incredible season.
If Hughes turns into a top pairing defenseman and also turns the PP into the PP we’ve dreamed about for a long time.
If the other young guys, who we hope take a step forward, actually do that.
If it really is addition by subtraction with Gudbranson and others.
If some of these pan out? Maybe. If a lot of them come true? Yes. I think they can do it.
That's what a lot people said when it was discussed a week ago, a lot of things have to go right in order for the Nucks to make the playoffs.
There's no way they'll prevent any goals either. Trade Tanev and you're sending Myers into a tough-minutes pair. Which is a recipe for disaster.
I voted "no" they wouldn't make it (I hope), but I see their realistic playoff chances as around 40/60.
It's definitely not impossible.
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I'm thinking a bubble team and likely a lottery pick.
Next year Benning will clear cap and add more ufas and buy at the deadline.
Desperate times ahead while we sweat it out finding exactly what we owe.
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Because it's not that much of an achievement if you're not limited by an internal (lower) cap.
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I like this idea but I don’t think Tanev lands you Craig Smith.
At this stage of Tanev’s career, combined with his injury history, Tanev has far more value to us in comparison to his current trade value.
The time to move Tanev was 2-3 years ago, but our right side wouldn’t have been able to afford the loss of Tanev at that time (#ButGillis).
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What can he really do? It's July and the team's already slammed up against the salary cap. There's zero flexibility.
Maybe moving Tanev/Stecher. Benning signed 2 top 6 defencemen. I don't see both Fantenberg and Biega sitting in the pressbox especially since we have a logjam at forward.
Tanev or Stecher are the only trade chips available if Benning wants to add a top 6 forward, unless he plans on moving another 1st/prospects which I hope he doesn't.
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To be honest, I don’t like the idea of moving Tanev unless we are bringing in another top 4 dman (Gardiner). The Canucks spent all this time and effort into finally having a semi-respectable defensive corps. Trading Tanev would pretty much ruin that. Tanev has more value to the Canucks then his overall current trade value. He’s the exact type of guy that you’d want mentoring Hughes for his first year as a pro.
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Hey, I was an English major. That was pretty close, don't you think?
