Player Discussion Can Lucic bounce back? Part II

Discussion in 'Edmonton Oilers' started by Soul8, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. McBooya42

    McBooya42 Have a McDavid day!

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    4,661
    Likes Received:
    226
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Location:
    Edmonton
    I'm pretty sure that's what did Talbot in last year.
     
  2. VainGretzky

    VainGretzky OIL rebound 18/19

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2015
    Messages:
    8,702
    Likes Received:
    2,630
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Happy for Lucic , hope he is back
     
    Ladyfan and McFuhryous like this.
  3. The Nuge

    The Nuge Top 9 Forward Count - 5/9

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    23,888
    Likes Received:
    1,283
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    British Columbia
    Thanks for running the numbers. Let’s hope he’s over it

    It doesn’t even necessarily have to be superstition. I think mentally he’s just trying to give himself a reset. He was fine in 2017, so now that he’s through 2018, he can get back to his game.

    If Lucic can now get back to 20-25 goals, and 45-55 points, it’s indescribably huge for this team. That means instead of having to use assets just to get rid of him, those assets can be used to bring in another top 6er. 2 top 6 wingers, or zero top 6 wingers... let’s hope the Looch we’re seeing right now sticks around
     
  4. McShogun99

    McShogun99 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Messages:
    9,969
    Likes Received:
    2,044
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Edmonton
    I wanted him to get that 3rd goal so bad. Rogers Place would have erupted.
     
    McNuge and The Nuge like this.
  5. elmeroil

    elmeroil Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2013
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    303
    Trophy Points:
    64
    The mind is so powerful and Lucic had written 2018 off as just a terrible year for him. As soon as 2019 hit, his mind probably told him ok things are back to normal so let's go! Here's hoping anyways.
     
  6. Bryanbryoil

    Bryanbryoil English is Overrated, I Score Goals

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    69,553
    Likes Received:
    5,560
    Trophy Points:
    196
    Hell a 15 goal and 30 point pace would be considered great from me given where he was in 2018.
     
  7. Little Fury

    Little Fury Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2006
    Messages:
    12,395
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Trophy Points:
    186
    If he goes on a tear down the stretch here, it would be a boon to trading him this summer which is an absolutely necessary move for this team to make.
     
    Raoul Duke likes this.
  8. The Nuge

    The Nuge Top 9 Forward Count - 5/9

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    23,888
    Likes Received:
    1,283
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    British Columbia
    Oh absolutely. Especially because that would make him, at worst, our 5th best forward. And even a 15 goal, 30+ point Lucic is at least tradeable, without retention, to any budget team (given his salary is only 2/3 of his caphit). That at least gives us flexibility with the cap, without having to pay a big cost to ditch his contract if we need to.

    It depends. If we think he can return to form, and stay there, it’s not the worst thing to keep him. He’s a nightmare for the opposition, and you need those guys come playoff time. Plus, it’s not like he’s on a Backes type contract where you’re expecting his body to break down. He’s healthy and only signed until 34. But I can definitely see the case for trading him while he’s tradable.
     
  9. Little Fury

    Little Fury Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2006
    Messages:
    12,395
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Trophy Points:
    186
    A week ago he was a buyout candidate. I've zero confidence he can return to form and stay there. Let some other team take that bet.
     
  10. Bryanbryoil

    Bryanbryoil English is Overrated, I Score Goals

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    69,553
    Likes Received:
    5,560
    Trophy Points:
    196
    It's unlikely that he will, but hockey can be a strange game sometimes.
     
  11. Little Fury

    Little Fury Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2006
    Messages:
    12,395
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Trophy Points:
    186
    As I said, even if he does, it shouldn't be here.
     
    Raoul Duke likes this.
  12. Magnum23

    Magnum23 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2012
    Messages:
    510
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    51
    I’ll be happy if he finishes season with more than 10 goals
     
  13. SavesFromKosko

    SavesFromKosko Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Messages:
    2,326
    Likes Received:
    1,521
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Gender:
    Male
    No one is going to take that bet. All we can do is root for the guy because we are stuck with him.
     
    nabob likes this.
  14. Little Fury

    Little Fury Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2006
    Messages:
    12,395
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Trophy Points:
    186
    I bet if he does on a bit of run here, some other dumb GM who loves grit and character (*cough*Dale Tallon*cough*) would bite.
     
  15. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,964
    Likes Received:
    498
    Trophy Points:
    95
    The problem is our dumb GM who loves grit and character will never want to trade him.
     
  16. Little Fury

    Little Fury Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2006
    Messages:
    12,395
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Hopefully we have an new GM at that point.
     
    Raoul Duke likes this.
  17. RattsSSV

    RattsSSV One small step forward would be great

    Joined:
    May 4, 2006
    Messages:
    3,898
    Likes Received:
    573
    Trophy Points:
    145
    Location:
    Oil Country
    Made this last night, was inspired by his performance as of late.
    [​IMG]

    Link for the kids: (suggest jumping to 1:29)
     
  18. McJadeddog

    McJadeddog Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    Messages:
    15,783
    Likes Received:
    858
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    Regina, Saskatchewan
    Exactly. At 15g/30p, he is contributing. Sure, he'd still be massively overpaid, but at least he would be around a "push" for impact on the roster, maybe even have a slight positive effect. I'd take 15g/30p all day everyday at this point.
     
  19. McJadeddog

    McJadeddog Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    Messages:
    15,783
    Likes Received:
    858
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    Regina, Saskatchewan
    I was just talking with a guy at work about this. I seriously doubt he hits 10 goals this year, but anything above 10 would have to be considered a HUGE win. He has 4 goals through 47 games this year. He'd need 6 more in the remaining 35 games, for a goal every 6 games.
     
    Magnum23 likes this.
  20. bone

    bone 5-14-6-1

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2003
    Messages:
    2,579
    Likes Received:
    452
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Location:
    Edmonton
    Home Page:
    If he truly returned to form though (i.e. approximately 20 per 80 games) its well within range.

    His historical production even just looking at the couple calendar years before 2018 he'd be considered likely to put up about 8 goals over that stretch. Even if we take it back to January 1st, 9 goals over 43 games is actually below his usual pace over pretty much any such stretch of his career until 2018.

    10 goals on the season is a reasonable projection if he truly playing to his potential. What remains to be seen is whether that is indeed the case.
     
  21. Magnum23

    Magnum23 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2012
    Messages:
    510
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Or he can pull another 2-goal game soon hahaha
     
  22. Stoneman89

    Stoneman89 Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2008
    Messages:
    12,702
    Likes Received:
    1,459
    Trophy Points:
    169
    His recent success is primarily because of the way he is being used and coached. Hitch told him he can’t play with McDavid anymore and also told him to start scoring goals. Pure genius.
     
  23. McNuge

    McNuge Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,295
    Likes Received:
    663
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cambridge Ontario
    God damn I hope he bounces back. He adds such an important element to this team when he is playing well. As long as he keeps skating and forechecking the way he has I think his points will come.
     
  24. McJadeddog

    McJadeddog Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    Messages:
    15,783
    Likes Received:
    858
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    Regina, Saskatchewan
    Yeah, you never know. Weird things happen.
     
  25. joestevens29

    joestevens29 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2009
    Messages:
    39,058
    Likes Received:
    2,052
    Trophy Points:
    156
    I'd expect 3 next time he decides to score. Anything less and it's a failure;)
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"