I don’t even think he was in the top-5 of every draft list at the start of the year. How you expect him to go there while missing potentially almost an entire year of development is beyond me.
I wonder if you said the same thing about Morgan Rielly? Torn ACL during his draft year, yet went 5th to Toronto. Nonsense post.I don’t even think he was in the top-5 of every draft list at the start of the year. How you expect him to go there while missing potentially almost an entire year of development is beyond me.
I wonder if you said the same thing about Morgan Rielly? Torn ACL during his draft year, yet went 5th to Toronto. Nonsense post.
Saying that you could've been drafted to deem a year terrible doesn't really do any good in terms of the position/opinion you're taking or changing my mind. Rielly is a fantastic NHLer and deserved to be taken top 5 regardless of how many games he missed - you can make the same argument with Turcotte. He's continued to be a top 5 ranked player by certain scout agencies for a reason.That Draft was a disgrace. I played house league at time and I'm offended I didn't get drafted in the first round.
While, I agree with your general point, 2012 was a strange draft in that so few players actually improved their draft stock during the season. Rielly also was breaking out prior to the injury, a better comparison would be Galchenyuk who tore his knee in pre-season.I wonder if you said the same thing about Morgan Rielly? Torn ACL during his draft year, yet went 5th to Toronto. Nonsense post.
What about Galchenyuk and Brett Connolly? Those picks didn't work out so well. You can argue both sides of the coin...Saying that you could've been drafted to deem a year terrible doesn't really do any good in terms of the position/opinion you're taking or changing my mind. Rielly is a fantastic NHLer and deserved to be taken top 5 regardless of how many games he missed - you can make the same argument with Turcotte. He's continued to be a top 5 ranked player by certain scout agencies for a reason.
I don't disagree that was a bad draft nor disagree with what you're saying either. However, as you noted there was a comfortable enough level to draft Rielly regardless of what happened during his year. I am trying to make that same argument for Turcotte, a ton of scouts saw him last season since a ton of scouts normally watch the USNTDP and that he was there with Hughes. There is a certain amount of time that scouts do look ahead simply because they're fortunate to play on a team where they're watching another player and see "y" player play. Second, which ties in with the first aspect is that he's in a very watched league like the USHL is in. If, for example, Alex Texier was injured during his draft year there is a good chance he would not have been picked in the top 60 by CBJ (since scouts don't normally scout the French league). Galchenyuk posted an 80 point season in the OHL the year prior, so the Habs comfortably took him 3rd overall. I argue that the jury is still out on him, but he's still a pretty solid player even if he does have issues.While, I agree with your general point, 2012 was a strange draft in that so few players actually improved their draft stock during the season. Rielly also was breaking out prior to the injury, a better comparison would be Galchenyuk who tore his knee in pre-season.
I don't think its ever been cleared up what is wrong with Turcotte. I don't think he's expected to miss the entire year. He probably slips out of the top 5 if he misses the entire year as it wasn't like he was far ahead (or even ahead in the first place) of certain guys who have gained on him since the beginning of the season (Cozens, Dach. Krebs, Zegras, Boldy, Podkolzin, etc).
I'm trying to think of other Rielly/Galchenyuk situations, but I can't think of any other high-first rounders in recent years. I know Connelly missed a bunch.
I don’t even think he was in the top-5 of every draft list at the start of the year. How you expect him to go there while missing potentially almost an entire year of development is beyond me.
Turcotte looked fine skating out there yesterday versus LSSU. The U18's got him back just in time, as Jack Hughes wasn't there -- he and Spencer Knight are at the U20 WJC camp.
I think this is the best thing for him with Hughes out..Turcotte is going to get top line minutes and build back up his confidence and conditioning while being out for as long as he has been. There are still going to be some scouts watching kids outside the WJC and I would imagine he is going to get a lot of attention the next week.Goal and an assist yesterday against the best team in college hockey, St. Cloud State. They were missing Poehling, but thats still pretty good.
Is he injury prone?
He plays a very-injury prone style of play.
He takes an inordinate amount of hits. He's too often off-balance battling for pucks in the corners often due to taking an extra effort type of approach to puck battles and he's always going to the dirty areas of the ice.
Thats not good. Sounds to me that he is quite a risky pick. Is he Vilardi 2.0?
He plays a very-injury prone style of play.
He takes an inordinate amount of hits. He's too often off-balance battling for pucks in the corners often due to taking an extra effort type of approach to puck battles and he's always going to the dirty areas of the ice.
if by playing the right way is "playing and injury prone style" then you can say that for a lot of the kids at the top end of this draft.... ridiculous comment! so these kids should give up on pucks out of fear their draft stock may drop according to bloggers and twitter scouts?!?!?! get real!
I don't think Vilardi is injury-prone. He's had really bad luck with injuries. Happens to some players.
Turcotte is injury prone because of how he plays the game. There are some players like that. I'm sure you could name one or two on every team that always are falling awkwardly near the boards, very painfully blocking shots, limping back to the bench, taking a lot of maintenance days. For some players, it never result in any serious injuries.
Coincidentally i feel like Pavel Buchnevich is one of those players