Habstastic
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I like him a lot, very complete player! For me I see him as a 60 points two way C that plays the tough minutes.
C Alex Turcotte - USNTDP, USHL (2019, 5th, LAK)
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kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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I think Turcotte could certainly be a Mike Richards-esque 30/30 guy. Scott Wheeler pegged his upside as Jake Guentzal.
Jericho111091
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Richards is a decent comparable, but I'm not sure if Turcotte will have that bit of snarl that prime Richards had.
kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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I agree. That's what made Mike Richards, well, Mike Richards. But that's my best comparable for Turcotte.
Hockeyholic
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Definitely a bright future. What are the Kings planning on doing in goal moving forward? Is Parik the guy? Quick? Petersen?
kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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Petersen's only 25, same age as Ilya Sorokin for reference. But the Kings have Villalta, Ingham, Parik, and Markkanen who are all relatively promising as well. Quick's still here too!
Hockeyholic
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Alot to be determined. But it appears the future is looking very bright for the Kings.
Raccoon Jesus
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I can't agree with that.
It's AHL with a cup of coffee in the big show this year. I think anything less than NHL after that has to been as a failure (or injury).
Frolov 6'3
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Two years ?
If that’s the case, he is close to being a bust.
Turcotte is a player that could play on the 3rd/4th line as well.
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MichaelFarrell
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He’ll only be 21 in two years. I think the best move for his development would’ve been another year in college and a year in the minors. He didn’t dominate college by any means. I thought he still had a lot more work to do.
Pavel Buchnevich
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PPG upside. 50-60 point floor.
Calling him a bust because he didnt make the NHL at 20 in this hypothetical scenario? Man this place doesn't understand how prospects work
Almost no player has a "floor" of a good second line C...
His floor is a 4th line C. His defensive skill will keep him in the NHL but hes FAR from a sure fire #2C at minimum
Frolov 6'3
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I think you dont know in this case.
5th overall pick, two way player, who will play in the AHL. Team that drafted him, LA. When he hasnt hit the NHL in those two years, something is wrong.
What freshman dominates college unless you are an Eichel. Thats a odd argument to use against him.
Problem I see here is that you both dont know he left college.
Where someone is drafted is meaningless. Spending two years in the AHL doesn't make you a bust
Frolov 6'3
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HahahaWhere someone is drafted is meaningless. Spending two years in the AHL doesn't make you a bust
What an entertainment....
Again, I quoted someone who said he most likely wont see the NHL within two years. Could be but I already explained why that is worrysome and said, close to being a bust. Dont try to twist things.
If you cant look at the big picture and are entertained so easily, than that is your problem.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I'm going to have to disagree. I think one of the best and highest floor prospects in any recent draft has a floor of a good second line center.
Raccoon Jesus
Todd McLellan is an inside agent
Well, the Kings seem to disagree and have him turning pro now instead, probably to keep a hand on his development and get him 1C minutes in the pro game instead of whatever shitshow Wisco had going on last year, as well as reuniting him with Wroblewski as a coach. Odds are he's full time AHL this year with some games on the big squad, and I can't imagine a world in which he doesn't make the full jump next year unless there's an injury or he just isn't cutting it which would be worrying. The Kings have the luxury of insulating him on the NHL team with Kopitar and any combination of Carter/Kempe/Vilardi/Byfield and others--whoever sticks around/sticks--but that would also be the major reason they don't want him on the NHL team today, probably not great for him to be getting lesser minutes. Better to get big important all situation minutes and a pro schedule vs. men this year while learning the Kings' system as well as development right next door instead of across the country.
Raccoon Jesus
Todd McLellan is an inside agent
The only top-5 picks in the last decade to not be in the NHL at D+3 is Olli Juolevi and Griffin Reinhart so yes, it would be troublesome if he wasn't starting to get some NHL games by age 21, which is also the age most prospects outside that range break through.
But you already knew that, right? That's the only explanation for your condescension, other than you getting the math wrong.
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Turc is going to be a stud. Only reason he might not make team this year is how crazy good their prospect system is. But I suspect he might still make it.
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Time for the future. More Byfield and Clarke
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Turcotte doesn’t have the Richards heat seeker quality but has better speed and skill. Thing the point totals are going to be comparable.
I wouldn’t blink twice if the kid spends the whole year in the AHL. He has missed time over the last few with injuries and will be surrounded by a ton of young skilled teammates. We will get a better sense of if he is a center or a winger. The kid could also use 10 extra pounds before hitting the Kings. In no way do I see this a Bust rather I see the Kings as bringing along a player in a timely matter that will help him succeed when he hits the NHL ice. If things go well hopefully a end of season call up.
I love the speed we have drafted lately. Love all the center depth. Even if Turcotte and Kupari end up in the wings we really could use that speed and skill at the NHL level.
I wouldn’t blink twice if the kid spends the whole year in the AHL. He has missed time over the last few with injuries and will be surrounded by a ton of young skilled teammates. We will get a better sense of if he is a center or a winger. The kid could also use 10 extra pounds before hitting the Kings. In no way do I see this a Bust rather I see the Kings as bringing along a player in a timely matter that will help him succeed when he hits the NHL ice. If things go well hopefully a end of season call up.
I love the speed we have drafted lately. Love all the center depth. Even if Turcotte and Kupari end up in the wings we really could use that speed and skill at the NHL level.
Love Turcott, think he has the potential to become one of the best 2Cs in hockey one day. However, I think LA rushed him. He did not dominate college hockey and quite frankly was mediocre his first year. Hope this doesn’t hurt his overall offensive potential.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Wisconsin is rotten. It’s not rushing him to have him play in a better environment. You can’t request a trade in college hockey.
As Pavel Buchnevich wrote Wisconsin was a @#$% show last yr. It is good that they get Turcotte away from there.
When healthy he was great. People tend to ignore that he had a ~10 game stretch with no points where he was injured and sick. Yanetti said it best when he said as a whole the season wasn't mind blowing yet they liked what they saw. If broken down into quarters he was arguably one of the single best players in NCAA in 2 of the the 4 quarters, ok/solid in 1 quarter, and dealing with health issues during the bad 1 quarter. When healthy he produced over a PPG.
It is much better for his development and LA to have him under closer supervision and growing with the plethora of top prospects we have playing with him in the AHL or EU right now.
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