Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals XII - Mod in Op

[Mainehockey33]

Hmmm he can be our version of Ovy... I didn't know that he could do that if he wanted to. Maybe if he's playing for Boston with a more hockey saturated culture it will enthuse him to step up and not simply play just for the paycheck?!??!

Kovalchuk has always been an enthusiastic player. King’s fans seem to like him even though the team is hot garbage.

 

[rocketdan9]

No, you need one more guy in the middle.

They need two forwards, a Top RWer (like you said) and a Center for that 3rd line. Matter of fact unless that RWer is signed past this year, they are wasting their time and assets just making a move for one rental winger and not addressing the center position.

Let's pump the brakes on this latest run. It's been impressive, but they've needed gimmicky 3 on 3 OT to win 3 of their last 6.

And 2 of those regulation wins came against the 31st ranked offense (LA) and the 30th ranked offense (Anaheim).

How do you know Frederic is offensively capable unless he is paired with capable fwds

Last nights pass to Backes...then Backes fans

That was a nice pass

Heinen Frederic Cehlarik in theory should produce

Marchand Bergeron Pasta
Debrusk Krejci ??
Heinen Frederic Cehlarik
4th line

Look grabbing a top 6 rw and 3c like Schenn or Staal would be nice. But even if you cant... Frederic has shown enough promise on both ends... that you can have confidence in him as a center

He is winning FO. Finishing checks. Backchecking and not making silly mistakes. Then you have some soft hands moments like that pass to Backes

For example if Blues wanted Frederic for Schenn. I would hang up the phone

 

[Fenian24]

Cassidy specifically brought up Heinen blocking out 2 Kings players and providing a screen on Marchand goal off face off; and later Wall play that led to the McAvoy game winner was mentioned as well

He did not get a point on either goal but was mentioned on both

As a very vocal critic of Heinen I would like to see an upgrade in the top six but he has played well with Marchand and Bergeron. Still a very vanilla player but there are worse options in the organization at the moment. Still would like an experienced, bigger top 6 forward and use Heinen either as the player to get that or move him to the third line and put him on the wing with a real 3C.

 

[Smitty93]

There's been lots of talk about getting a 2nd line wing and a 3rd line center, but I lean towards basically replacing the 3rd line.

I know getting three new players at this point is unlikely, but I'd go with something like this:

Marchand-Bergeron-Heinen
DeBrusk-Krejci-Pastrnak
xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxx
Wagner-Kuraly-Acciari

Maybe keep one of the current guys (Cehlarik, Nordstrom, Backes), but no more than one. Preferably, the winger you get has top 6 talent/scoring ability, but you play him on the 3rd line so that the talent is spread out more. I've always felt like your 3rd line is the difference between winning and losing in the playoffs. As we all remember, it was putrid last year.

 

[maxl7]

I was told right on this very board he has no value when he was dealt and Sweeney made a great deal to move him for a fourth round pick and 8th D.Shame he never was appreciated enough by some on this board.

With Simmonds and Ferland supposedly off the block it doesn't leave many forwards to acquire to add some size, grit and scoring on the wing. Unless Sweeney can figure a way to get Anderson or Wood we can add forwards not being able to crash the net (again) vs Tamps and now Toronto if he goes to either of those teams. Toronto with Muzzin and McQuaid has a vastly improved D with a ton of playoff experience between those two.

I hope he goes to the Leafs because I'd love for Babock to overdeploy him in the playoffs. Maybe he could make a top pairing of Hainsey and McQuaid.

 

[RoccoF14]

.........For example if Blues wanted Frederic for Schenn. I would hang up the phone

Wow. I can't even craft a response to that.......speechless.

Glad to see this thread heading back to Crazytown......

 

[22Brad Park]

NHL Rumors: Bruins ‘Hovering’ On These Three Stars As Trade Deadline Nears

 

[BruinDust]

How do you know Frederic is offensively capable unless he is paired with capable fwds

Last nights pass to Backes...then Backes fans

That was a nice pass

Heinen Frederic Cehlarik in theory should produce

Marchand Bergeron Pasta
Debrusk Krejci ??
Heinen Frederic Cehlarik
4th line

Look grabbing a top 6 rw and 3c like Schenn or Staal would be nice. But even if you cant... Frederic has shown enough promise on both ends... that you can have confidence in him as a center

He is winning FO. Finishing checks. Backchecking and not making silly mistakes. Then you have some soft hands moments like that pass to Backes

For example if Blues wanted Frederic for Schenn. I would hang up the phone

Look I like Frederic, a lot actually, but he's not about to become a 30-40 pt. center just because you upgrade his two wingers to whatever combo of Heinen/Cehlarik/Debrusk you give him. He's just not.

He could be that player in time, maybe as soon as next year, but he isn't yet.

And the Bruins won't know the answer to whether better wingers would get his production up to an acceptable level between now and the deadline, so it they want to legitimately compete for a cup this season, they need to upgrade the C position from Frederic.

 

[bwunderlich]

How do you know Frederic is offensively capable unless he is paired with capable fwds

Look grabbing a top 6 rw and 3c like schenn or Staal would be nice. But even if you cant... Frederic has shown enough promise on both ends... that you can have confidence in him as a center
He is winning FO. Finishing checks. Backchecking and not making silly mistakes. Then you have some soft hands moments like that pass to Backes
For example if Blues wanted Frederic for Schenn. I would hang up the phone

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Bergy and DK are playing 20-minutes a game. Trent is getting 10-min. Recipe for disaster and not sustainable in the playoffs.
Bergy looked cooked last night. So 3C has to be a player Cassidy feels comfortable rolling out 15-minutes a game.

 

[22Brad Park]

Look I like Frederic, a lot actually, but he's not about to become a 30-40 pt. center just because you upgrade his two wingers to whatever combo of Heinen/Cehlarik/Debrusk you give him. He's just not.

He could be that player in time, maybe as soon as next year, but he isn't yet.

And the Bruins won't know the answer to whether better wingers would get his production up to an acceptable level between now and the deadline, so it they want to legitimately compete for a cup this season, they need to upgrade the C position from Frederic.

Frederic is going to be a real good player.I am fine with upgrading his spot this year but not trading him.Any deal he is included in better be bringing somebody with term.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Kovalchuk has always been an enthusiastic player. King’s fans seem to like him even though the team is hot garbage.

I'm still on the Kovy train. Sure maybe year 3 will be a problem on the contract, but his shot is still NHL elite. He is a guy who could come here and potentially be a PPG postseason performer

Is there risk, sure there is, but there is risk on any late season acquisition

 

[22Brad Park]

I'm still on the Kovy train. Sure maybe year 3 will be a problem on the contract, but his shot is still NHL elite. He is a guy who could come here and potentially be a PPG postseason performer

Is there risk, sure there is, but there is risk on any late season acquisition

I'm still on the Kovy train. Sure maybe year 3 will be a problem on the contract, but his shot is still NHL elite. He is a guy who could come here and potentially be a PPG postseason performer

Is there risk, sure there is, but there is risk on any late season acquisition

Paying him.6.25 million at age 37 is not a very good way to do buisness
Rather pass on him.

 

[JCRO]

I'm still on the Kovy train. Sure maybe year 3 will be a problem on the contract, but his shot is still NHL elite. He is a guy who could come here and potentially be a PPG postseason performer

Is there risk, sure there is, but there is risk on any late season acquisition

I'm not really against it. I have other preferences but..

Sweeney needs to do one of two things.. or both if they bring him on-

-Get LA to retain. Which means the Bs add in a trade.
-Get rid of Backes. Even with his *contract being more movable next year (my mistake OMINM ) it's dead money and if they add Kovy they need money to sign some of the young guys. The real question is if you can even get someone to take him at this point

Really he needs to do those two things if he adds any of these bigger targets and somehow gets them to sign. Kovy at 6.25 for two more seasons is sketchy though.

 

[bp13]

NHL Rumors: Bruins ‘Hovering’ On These Three Stars As Trade Deadline Nears

We're calling Simmonds and Zucco "stars" now? That's a pretty liberal definition.

Let's change that title to "Bruins Hovering On One Star and Two Consolation Prizes, One of Whom is Clearly Trending Down"

 

[Coach Parker]

NHL Rumors: Bruins ‘Hovering’ On These Three Stars As Trade Deadline Nears

I hate the last sentence of that article so much right now:

But if Bruce Cassidy’s club continues to get scoring help from its secondary units, as it did Monday night against the San Jose Sharks, the Bruins might not need to be ultra-aggressive at the trade deadline.

Dakota Randall, please don't ever spread this idea. Please!

 

[22Brad Park]

We're calling Simmonds and Zucco "stars" now? That's a pretty liberal definition.

Let's change that title to "Bruins Hovering On One Star and Two Consolation Prizes, One of Whom is On His Last Legs"

Yea I hear ya
Friedman: Bruins poking around a few big deadline names

 

[Mainehockey33]

I'm still on the Kovy train. Sure maybe year 3 will be a problem on the contract, but his shot is still NHL elite. He is a guy who could come here and potentially be a PPG postseason performer

Is there risk, sure there is, but there is risk on any late season acquisition

That risk is why I want known commodities like Staal and Kovi. Even if they won't be PPG guys and both play on the 3rd line, it's a significant boost and changes how the entire lineup is rolled out.

 

[McGarnagle]

Bring back Jagr

 

[Coach Parker]

Get LA to retain 30% on Kovalchuk.
Get a modified NT list from Backes July 2nd and move him to a team that he lists with $1,000,000 left to pay him for the year and the cap hit of $6,000,000.

 

[PlayMakers]

NHL Rumors: Bruins ‘Hovering’ On These Three Stars As Trade Deadline Nears

There is so much I hate about that article.

 

[xjoeyc23x]

Duchene + Bobby Ryan (@ 3.6M) for ?

Flame away, thinking outside of the box here.

 

[bp13]

There is so much I hate about that article.

And the part you hate the most is that you're reasonably confident they'll get someone just like Simmonds or Zucco, right?

I know that's why I hate it.

 

[Mainehockey33]

There is so much I hate about that article.

Not even one center on that list... Just Panarin who isn't coming to Boston, Zucc who's ok, and Simmonds who wouldn't be that much of a difference maker anymore.

 

[DKH]

We're calling Simmonds and Zucco "stars" now? That's a pretty liberal definition.

Let's change that title to "Bruins Hovering On One Star and Two Consolation Prizes, One of Whom is Clearly Trending Down"

I’m not buying these 3 names

Could happen but 3 rentals?

Panaren is not signing here

Philadelphia is going to trade him to Boston? For what ?

Sweeney trades a 1 or a top prospect he should be fired

Zuccarello ? I guess but I’m not excited

You want a rental?

Staal
Hayes
Silfverberg

 

[ON3M4N]

I'm not really against it. I have other preferences but..

Sweeney needs to do one of two things.. or both if they bring him on-

-Get LA to retain. Which means the Bs add in a trade.
-Get rid of Backes. Even with his cap hit going down next year it's dead money and if they add Kovy they need money to sign some of the young guys. The real question is if you can even get someone to take him at this point

Really he needs to do those two things if he adds any of these bigger targets and somehow gets them to sign. Kovy at 6.25 for two more seasons is sketchy though.

huh? Backes cap hit remains at $6 million for the life of his deal.