Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals XII - Mod in Op

[GloryDaze4877]

Well I wouldnt give up Heinen for nothing

But once Pasta returns... Heinen will go down to the 3rd or 4th lime or whatever

And unless Bruins get a 3c....

You get what I mean

Cehlarik has played well but not sure he is still a solution on the 2nd line for playoffs

Not sure about Stone, Panarin anymore but a player under these players that are capable 25-30 goal scorers would give the team a legit top 2 lines.

Then having two 4th lines is fine

No, I don’t get what you mean? I’m not entirely sure that Heinen will move down when Pasta returns?

Even if he does, I am of the opinion that the B’s need three good lines in order to “do some damage” in the playoffs with the competition they will face. I don’t think two real good lines and two fourth lines gets it done.

 

[Gordoff]

I like your rentals, if forced to rent. Actually would probably like to sign Silfverberg.

In general though, I'm setting the bar at a quality player with term who is either top 6 winger or #3C.

I'm definitely worried that if Stone is a no-go and Panarin isn't signing here, the fallback is vet rentals for both spots. I hate the idea of giving future assets for guys who won't be here next year. Any GM can do that at the deadline. Renting to fill key holes every year seems like a terrible model to me.

Well, basically this is the situation that Don Sweeney has put himself and the team in. He probably thought that he'd save on the cap unless he gets a player or players that he really likes but by this time of the year mediocre players are doled around for crazy returns as though they're top commodities. IMO Sweeney blew his **** in the summer of '15 and has shown very little imagination or prowess in making deals. He is a suit with tunnel vision.

 

[Fenian24]

I'd rather have Bobby Schmautz

Schmautz would get suspended for life in Bettman's NHL after one game.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Again Iam not against keeping Heinen... but his production/value likely tanks once sent back to the 3rd/4th line

Just saying if the Bruins can get a 30 goal capable player... I would dangle Heinen ahead of Debrusk or McAvoy

You would dangle Heinen in front of McAvoy? Bold statement of the day material.

Again, you are missing the point. I don’t feel the B’s can compete unless they have a good 3rd line. You know, one where there is talented players so Heinen’s production doesn’t tank.

 

[Gordoff]

DuPont speculation is Vanek

Lots of rumors

My guess is Eric Staal if he’s available

Makes most sense need and insurance

Dupont's opinion has been irrelevant for 10-15 years. Once he went into the HOF he took his foot off the gas.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Dupont's opinion has been irrelevant for 15-20 years. Once he went into the HOF he took his foot off the gas.

I wish I loved someone as much as Dupont loves Vanek.

 

[22Brad Park]

DuPont speculation is Vanek

Lots of rumors

My guess is Eric Staal if he’s available

Makes most sense need and insurance

Stall would be a huge addition.He is built for the playoff wars.

 

[RustyBruins72]

Dupont's opinion has been irrelevant for 15-20 years. Once he went into the HOF he took his foot off the gas.

I always liked him here. Good ole Hub. His man-crush on Dominic Moore was hilarious.

I want no park of Vanek.

and I've read here lots who say Staal doesn't want to leave Minnesota. Does he have a NTC/NMC? has he flat out come out and said "I don't want to leave here". or just speculation that "I really like it here" means "Don't trade me" ?

 

[RoccoF14]

Stall would be a huge addition.He is built for the playoff wars.

Based on what?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

bp....

Ottawa has a offer ready to retain Stone, THAT'S WHY Duchene IS "available"

Hutch...

OTT can make an offer to retain Stone, he still HAS to sign it.

 

[22Brad Park]

No to Bjork

I’m not buying

Well he has already had 2 shoulder surgeries but I just used his name as an example .Sweeney is going to do something and there is a real strong possibility not everyone is going to like it.

 

[22Brad Park]

Based on what?

Based on him leading Canes for years.He is strong as an ox with the puck.

 

[easton117]

I’d absolutely give the 1 and Zboril & Cehlarik but not sure if that gets done

If you are getting Stone you can give up Senyshyn

Think if you gave up a first and let them pick one of Studnicka/Frederick. Throw in whatever else middle tier prospect wise.

Wouldn’t that put you in best offer territory?

Wouldn’t do it for the unsigned version. But signed? Man he’s a good player

 

[rocketdan9]

You would dangle Heinen in front of McAvoy? Bold statement of the day material.

Again, you are missing the point. I don’t feel the B’s can compete unless they have a good 3rd line. You know, one where there is talented players so Heinen’s production doesn’t tank.

rather have two dangerous top two lines vs strong top line followed by ok rest

Like last season vs tampa

 

[Drift]

This is boring. Someone trade someone already!

 

[Deal Law]

you could've gotten Vanek when he was in Buffalo and Minnesota, how would the Sabres have felt then had that occurred.

Sounds like the consensus about Eric Staal is not leaving Minnesota anytime in the next week

Link? Where is there consensus on this point? He has a 10-team NTC, but I haven't seen anything that says he is completely unwilling to waive it. I have seen that he and his family love living in St. Paul, but that would appear to only potentially foreclose a re-signing, not a rental.

Wild’s skid makes veteran Eric Staal vulnerable to trade, and...

From yesterday. He talks of the realities of the trade deadline and how much he loves Minny. Doesn't say he wouldn't waive his NTC.

LeBrun mentioned on Insider Trading that he isn't convinced he would be willing to waive it, but none of this sounds like consensus.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/inside...tners-kapanen-leafs-to-talk-extension~1612231

 

[rocketdan9]

This is boring. Someone trade someone already!

Nothing will happen unless the top of pecking order moves 1st (panarin, stone)

 

[TCB]

Duchene open to trade-and-sign — The Fourth Period

The Flames and Boston Bruins have also had talks about Stone, though I’m not convinced the Bruins cough up Ottawa’s asking price – they may focus on Ryan Dzingel.

Add in teams (like Boston) still trying to pluck Chris Kreider away from the Blueshirts,

 

[JCRO]

Told my boss I might need to be out next Monday..

It's depending on some things.

 

[bp13]

bp....

Ottawa has a offer ready to retain Stone, THAT'S WHY Duchene IS "available"

And offers always get accepted? They had an offer on the table for Duchene last week. Where's that stand?

 

[Drift]

Nothing will happen unless the top of pecking order moves 1st (panarin, stone)

Understood. I stand by my statement

 

[Bazeek]

Link? Where is there consensus on this point? He has a 10-team NTC, but I haven't seen anything that says he is completely unwilling to waive it. I have seen that he and his family love living in St. Paul, but that would appear to only potentially foreclose a re-signing, not a rental.

Wild’s skid makes veteran Eric Staal vulnerable to trade, and...

From yesterday. He talks of the realities of the trade deadline and how much he loves Minny. Doesn't say he wouldn't waive his NTC.

LeBrun mentioned on Insider Trading that he isn't convinced he would be willing to waive it, but none of this sounds like consensus.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/inside...tners-kapanen-leafs-to-talk-extension~1612231

He's getting traded one way or another, even if it's to a team like NYI or Carolina for a 5th.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Link? Where is there consensus on this point? He has a 10-team NTC, but I haven't seen anything that says he is completely unwilling to waive it. I have seen that he and his family love living in St. Paul, but that would appear to only potentially foreclose a re-signing, not a rental.

Wild’s skid makes veteran Eric Staal vulnerable to trade, and...

From yesterday. He talks of the realities of the trade deadline and how much he loves Minny. Doesn't say he wouldn't waive his NTC.

LeBrun mentioned on Insider Trading that he isn't convinced he would be willing to waive it, but none of this sounds like consensus.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/inside...tners-kapanen-leafs-to-talk-extension~1612231

Deal:

the above was refuted earlier today..... Staal isn't coming here as an option

 

[GloryDaze4877]

rather have two dangerous top two lines vs strong top line followed by ok rest

Like last season vs tampa

How does me saying that the B’s should trade for a Top 6 wing and a 3C, but try to keep the current roster F’s intact make them just ok?

Say they were able to acquire one of Toffoli/Kovy/Silfverberg and one of Staal/Hayes, while keeping Heinen and Cehlarik.

You could have a Top 9 of:

63/37/88
22/46/Toffoli
74/Hayes/Heinen

Or

63/37/43
Kovy/46/88
74/Staal/22

Does either of those scream weak to you?

 

[bp13]

I’d absolutely give the 1 and Zboril & Cehlarik but not sure if that gets done

If you are getting Stone you can give up Senyshyn

Yeah I don't see that getting it done though do you? I'd have to imagine Zboril and Senyshyn's trade values are pretty low.

If I'm truly 80%+ confident he's gonna be re-signed, I go 1st rounder, Gryz, any prospect they want (I get to pull two off the table, so call it Vaak and Studnicka). Let's say it ends up Gryz, Donato, 1st rounder for Stone with high confidence he re-signs here. I'd be very happy with that deal. Obviously would try to make some part of conditional on re-sign, so maybe it's Gryz + Donato for Stone with conditional 1st if he re-signs.