Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals X - Mod in OP

[Gordoff]

If we are in on Schenn, what are the chances the home town boy, Frederic, is part of the deal?

Lauko, Vaakanainen and Frederic are my keeps

In actuality I agree with both above. The thing Saxon is that as Sleepy said St.Louis would want Frederic in a trade for Schenn and I guess if the Bruins want to win it in the next 2 years they need a guy like Schenn more than Frederic. If we were rebuilding and looking at Bergy/DK finished then you don't trade Frederic. It feels like they can go for it this year (believe it or not) or next so Schenn is the guy for 2RW/3C. If they do trade him they need to make SURE that Studnicka is the future 1/2 C.

 

[TCB]

I like Sweeney and think he will pull the trigger when he wants too, and will. Playmakers had said he thought they were weary of dealing them, and I don't think they are but maybe they value them differently then other GMs

I like Sweeney also, but he has me doubting his abilities as a GM. I think he has, over-rated his prospects or counted on them too early and that has cost his ability to make a trade, which ultimately is his duties to rightfully analyze and access his players.

I think he hit the ground running by trading away Looch and Hamilton, which were good deals, but since then he's been evaluating and waiting a little too long for me anyways. I understand with all the injuries, and all its been a tough year so, I'll give him till the deadline, heck Ill even give him through this years draft and the FA period, but if there's no significant move by then, Id say he's more than earned his walking papers.

 

[Alicat]

Didnt you say the same with Thornton, Kessel, Seguin?

LOL.

I wasn't here for Thornton. I also hated him (yea I know sacrilegious) so I wasn't sad to see him go.

Kessel forced their hand and I wasn't surprised when he or Seguin were moved.

 

[Gordoff]

he certainly fit in well game 2, period 2 vs Tampa in 2011 and was one of the only forwards to show up 2012 vs the Caps...Shocked his horrible lifestyle didn't affect the team even more.

Lunch pail mentality is what gives you the Hayes for Smith type deals. We have what, 5-6 lunch pail guys in our bottom 6 every night, and where has that gotten us so far?

I like lunch pail guys, but an over abundance of them isn't winning you anything in this recent "new" NHL.

When I hear "lunch pail guys" I think of Wensink, Nowak, and Bobby Schmautz.
They all had a particular attitude, a "get your hands dirty" and "smash 'em up" attitude. Not particularly talented but willing to work their asses off for as long as it takes.
I don't see lunch pail in most of these kids except for maybe Kuraly. Most of these kids seem to
shy away from the "dig down and get your uniform dirty and bloody" hockey that it imply's IMO.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Thanks. I heard the interview it didn’t come off as Neely railing on Charlie. He was asked a direct question by Felger and he answered. I’m sure it stems from McAvoy actually being late a time or three. In watching Behind-the-B and Road To Winter Classic it seems like his teammates get along great with him.

Which makes me think, McAvoy has been unlucky in regards to his health. We haven’t really experienced the impact a healthy McAvoy will have on this team. I think he’s better than most of us give him credit for.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

he certainly fit in well game 2, period 2 vs Tampa in 2011 and was one of the only forwards to show up 2012 vs the Caps...Shocked his horrible lifestyle didn't affect the team even more.

Lunch pail mentality is what gives you the Hayes for Smith type deals. We have what, 5-6 lunch pail guys in our bottom 6 every night, and where has that gotten us so far?

I like lunch pail guys, but an over abundance of them isn't winning you anything in this recent "new" NHL.

lou, I am not necessarily defending this history... but ive seen it
and im sure you've seen it too

weve gotten to chat in the sim league and I like you... I respect you... you know your stuff

you wouldn't be making these moves weve made... but you aren't really telling me im wrong. im not wrong. the team believes in trading soft skilled players for hardworking plugs and it always has

this is the team that traded shawn MacEachern for trent McCleary. its a philosophy that rares its head on a regular basis for the past 40 years ive been paying attention

 

[Oates2Neely]

One line of muckers & grinders is enough.

Acciari
Kuraly
Backes
Wagner
Nordstrom

Pick three and sit the rest. I’d much rather roll with a Heinen-JFK-Donato 3rd line and live with their warts

 

[LouJersey]

lou, I am not necessarily defending this history... but ive seen it
and im sure you've seen it too

weve gotten to chat in the sim league and I like you... I respect you... you know your stuff

you wouldn't be making these moves weve made... but you aren't really telling me im wrong. im not wrong. the team believes in trading soft skilled players for hardworking plugs and it always has

this is the team that traded shawn MacEachern for trent McCleary. its a philosophy that rares its head on a regular basis for the past 40 years ive been paying attention

I agree with you, you certainly aren't wrong, I just disagree with the way they think at times

 

[Skelen]

Yes. I agree those were nice signings, especially Halak but your not going to win by catching a small fish in a big pond, when you need another big fish and you already have a fist full of those small fish in hand already. But those were nice signings.

Although those signings do little to help his prior disastrous signings of Belesky and Backes where he self induced the crippling of his cap room with nearly zero return.

Add to that When Sean Kuraly is your best Trade acquisition in 3+ years and your not any further ahead now than you were then, tells me that he's failing as GM. Considering when he traded Looch and Hamilton he came out and said these picks, are also assets that can be used to improve the bruins down the road. Well that road is getting pretty long.

Why don't you go look at Looch and Dougie's stats and then try saying those trades were actually bad. The pieces he got have done more this season than both of them combined.

You also can't blame DS for Belesky who had a great first year here. Nobody could have predicted what happened to him.

 

[Greek_physique]

One line of muckers & grinders is enough.

Acciari
Kuraly
Backes
Wagner
Nordstrom

Pick three and sit the rest. I’d much rather roll with a Heinen-JFK-Donato 3rd line and live with their warts

That kid line would be lucky to see 1 shift in the 3rd period of a close game...if will never happen and that's why you need a more reliable 3rd line center.

Throwing out someone like Schenn or Spezza (just a name) does settle things a lot more.

 

[shelbysdad]

Wild need a defenseman....we have bunches....

Zboril and Heinen for Mikael Granlund

 

[CellyHard]

One line of muckers & grinders is enough.

Acciari
Kuraly
Backes
Wagner
Nordstrom

Pick three and sit the rest. I’d much rather roll with a Heinen-JFK-Donato 3rd line and live with their warts

Could not agree with this more.

The frustrating part is that the ‘kid’ line actually looked pretty good together.

Them with Nordstrom-Kuraly-Wagner is fine by me for the time being.

Cave and Acciari with 2 goals combined for 52 games thus far is wearing thin on me.

 

[BruinDust]

One line of muckers & grinders is enough.

Acciari
Kuraly
Backes
Wagner
Nordstrom

Pick three and sit the rest. I’d much rather roll with a Heinen-JFK-Donato 3rd line and live with their warts

It was funny yesterday to keep hearing Doc and Eddie O refer to the Kuraly line as the 4th line, when the reality was it's the 3rd line. The Cave line was effectively the 4th line.

I think the best we can hope for is 4 out of 5 of these guys each night.

One trend I've noticed this season is the sheer amount of goals league wide scored off the rush. And it's very concerning how much the Bruins struggle to score off the rush outside of the Bergeron line.

We are halfway through the season. For better or worse, it's pretty clear by now the Bruins are going to live and die off their Goaltending, defensive play, and PP scoring. They are unlikely at this point to have more than 5 forwards crack the 10 goal mark. Not sure what choice they have if they are determined to roll out what is effective TWO 4th lines every night.

 

[Sheppy]

One line of muckers & grinders is enough.

Acciari
Kuraly
Backes
Wagner
Nordstrom

Pick three and sit the rest. I’d much rather roll with a Heinen-JFK-Donato 3rd line and live with their warts

Wagner, Nordstrom and Kuraly. That was easy...

Unfortunately it isn't easy for the Bruins.

 

[bp13]

It was funny yesterday to keep hearing Doc and Eddie O refer to the Kuraly line as the 4th line, when the reality was it's the 3rd line. The Cave line was effectively the 4th line.

I think the best we can hope for is 4 out of 5 of these guys each night.

One trend I've noticed this season is the sheer amount of goals league wide scored off the rush. And it's very concerning how much the Bruins struggle to score off the rush outside of the Bergeron line.

We are halfway through the season. For better or worse, it's pretty clear by now the Bruins are going to live and die off their Goaltending, defensive play, and PP scoring. They are unlikely at this point to have more than 5 forwards crack the 10 goal mark. Not sure what choice they have if they are determined to roll out what is effective TWO 4th lines every night.

On that note, are there any stats anyone knows off hand comparing PP chances in the playoffs vs. regular season? I feel like they must be fewer historically but maybe that is trending higher in recent years. The root of my question is that the idea our offense is built around 1 line and a good PP scares me. If the PP goes cold, or Krug gets hurt again for example, you're dead in the water.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Room him with Chara or dont let him live on his own for now

or don't let Marchand bust his teammates chops on stupid interview segments.

If this was a real problem there's zero chance Marchand brings it up as comedy fodder. That segment with Haggs is literally the only reason Felger & Mazz even knew about McAvoy being late to anything. It's a f***ing joke. It's not an actual problem.

 

[KrejciMVP]

or don't let Marchand bust his teammates chops on stupid interview segments.

If this was a real problem there's zero chance Marchand brings it up as comedy fodder. That segment with Haggs is literally the only reason Felger & Mazz even knew about McAvoy being late to anything. It's a ****ing joke. It's not an actual problem.

you're probably reading too much into this, the whole habs team got criticized for having a Christmas party a day before the bruins game a few weeks ago. In fishbowls like Boston and Montreal these things get discussed.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

McAvoy and Donato for Kreider, Chytil, Pionk and a 1st.

Just so people know, I jokingly texted this to Lou earlier today when the McAvoy stuff came up...and he shamelessly claimed it as his own here on HF.

Dead to me.

 

[rocketdan9]

or don't let Marchand bust his teammates chops on stupid interview segments.

If this was a real problem there's zero chance Marchand brings it up as comedy fodder. That segment with Haggs is literally the only reason Felger & Mazz even knew about McAvoy being late to anything. It's a ****ing joke. It's not an actual problem.

Well they asked Neely about it yesterday.....and I think the Jacobs as well

And they didn't deny it. Just said there are good vets on the team to show him the ropes..... as well future contract talk has gone stale (Neely), as they need to see more from McAvoy (injury preventing this) before dolling out a fat contract

 

[LouJersey]

Just so people know, I jokingly texted this to Lou earlier today when the McAvoy stuff came up...and he shamelessly claimed it as his own here on HF.

Dead to me.

I take advantage of you since I'm in the office and you're out actually working.

 

[LouJersey]

Well they asked Neely about it yesterday.....and I think the Jacobs as well

And they didn't deny it. Just said there are good vets on the team to show him the ropes..... as well future contract talk has gone stale (Neely), as they need to see more from McAvoy (injury preventing this) before dolling out a fat contract

Are you speculating about the contract talks and McAvoy needing to show more?

 

[22Brad Park]

Disappointing to hear that about McAvoy, but I don’t think there’s anything to worry about.

They didn’t deal Seguin based solely on his attendance issues. He had serious holes in his game, specifically his fear of contact, that made them question what he would become.

Obviously, they were wrong, so wrong that I think they’re now gunshy when it comes to dealing any promising young player. Look at the comments they made about Bjork and Donato... they don’t want to deal anyone that might become good, let alone someone who is already really good.

Seguin went because of a few reasons.1 He was due a new deal and That same playoffs did not score .2 Showed up at hotel drunk during series with leafs wearing same clothes from day before 3 Bruins brass had themselves backed into a corner financially and were quite frankly to many opinions in the room.The Huge blunder there was the return .

 

[rocketdan9]

Are you speculating about the contract talks and McAvoy needing to show more?

its not speculation... it came from the horse's mouth (Neely)

 

[veganbruin]

What kind of deal do you think lands Schenn?

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

What kind of deal do you think lands Schenn?

My view is Grizz,Frederic,JFK and a pick