Confirmed with Link: Brian Elliott: Two Year Deal With Flyers ($2.75M/yr) (issued #37 per NHL.com)

[The Madrigal]

FWIW Myrtetus just tweeted that nothing is imminent with Elliott and the Flyers but that talks are serious.

 

[Hiesenberg]

I thought for sure they were going to sign Bernier. I thought Elliott made perfect sense for the Jets to play in tandem with Hellebuyck. I also though Mason was damn near a lock to go to the Flames. Looks like I was wrong on all of those

I don't think we thought Elliott could be had for that cheap. If that's what his cost actually is.

 

[Prongo]

FWIW Myrtetus just tweeted that nothing is imminent with Elliott and the Flyers but that talks are serious.

Well that's good because nothing can be imminent until July 1st.

Just piggy backing off somebody else's report.

 

[deadhead]

If the St Louis system is so great, how come when Allen became the starter last year he only put up .915%. The two years they shared duties Elliott put up a higher save % (.930 to .920, .917 to .913.).

Elliott is not a great goalie, but he's not a product of St Louis.
He's your basic 1 tier backup/2nd tier starter.

 

[The Madrigal]

Well that's good because nothing can be imminent until July 1st.

Just piggy backing off somebody else's report.

If you don't think that deals aren't agreed to in principle before July 1st I have some swamp land in Florida for sale if you are interested.

 

[SanBlom]

Has the price been mentioned?
Oh and as far as credibility goes, why would I care if I have your approval of my opinion. You disagree and that's fine. There's plenty of crap spewed on here that would make pretty much everyone lose it at one point or another. I've seen quite a few posts from you but I don't sit here posting like An internet tough guy. Elliot is a cap waste in my opinion. Let me know the numbers and maybe my feelings would change a little....just don't expect much from him if he's the starter.

 

[tictactoe]

Maybe Petr Mrazek? Young kid, has size, and can play over 40 games.

 

[The Madrigal]

If the St Louis system is so great, how come when Allen became the starter last year he only put up .915%. The two years they shared duties Elliott put up a higher save % (.930 to .920, .917 to .913.).

Elliott is not a great goalie, but he's not a product of St Louis.
He's your basic 1 tier backup/2nd tier starter.

 

[bennysflyers16]

early rumors are that mason is going to jets for 2 years at 4M

Haven't heard a peep here ??

Wouldn't surprise me tho, I've always said he will get less money and he really doesn't have many options. Also confirms the situation in Philly must have been real bad

 

[SanBlom]

If the St Louis system is so great, how come when Allen became the starter last year he only put up .915%. The two years they shared duties Elliott put up a higher save % (.930 to .920, .917 to .913.).

Elliott is not a great goalie, but he's not a product of St Louis.
He's your basic 1 tier backup/2nd tier starter.

And who is the better goalie now?

 

[Beef Invictus]

We'll see. I'm sure leaks from Elliott's side are possible, but Hex keeps things tights. This is weirdly out there.

 

[Fire Tortorella]

Would prefer Bernier but can't really complain either way. Cap hit is low enough that either he or Neuvirth could be moved if one of the prospects force their way onto the team at some point.

 

[Fire Tortorella]

We'll see. I'm sure leaks from Elliott's side are possible, but Hex keeps things tights. This is weirdly out there.

Also this...I can't think of another Flyers signing that was leaked beforehand like this.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Maybe Petr Mrazek? Young kid, has size, and can play over 40 games.

Gotta trade for him, even if Detroit wants to trade him.

 

[deadhead]

Another interesting note.
Chad Johnson had a .920% in Buffalo, .910 in Calgary, same as Elliott.
Maybe it was less the goalies than the Calgary defense?

The league average the last two years was .915 and .913.
Flyers was .905.
So I think we'd be happy with .910-.915, which really isn't asking too much of Elliott/Neuvirth.

That would be 12-25 fewer goals allowed.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Calgary had Giordano, Hamilton, & Brodie this past year. Not many teams can beat that threesome. Not just that but they had one of the best defensive centers in the league in Backlund. Who had Tkachuk & Frolik on his wings which was one of the most dominant two-way lines in the league this past year.

 

[Beef Invictus]

And who is the better goalie now?

Is Allen available?

 

[The Madrigal]

I'd laugh if this ended up being BS and they sign Bernier on Saturday.

 

[Striiker]

I'd be fine with that too, if it's a comparable contract.

 

[FLYguy3911]

If that's true then Hextall and/or Mason never had any interest in him returning to the Flyers. I also find it ironic that he had a temper tantrum at the end of the year about not being named the number 1 goalie and now he is choosing to sign with Winnipeg and likely share the job with Connor Hellebuyck.

Supply and demand. No team was going to cater to Mason's demands after the season he had.

Stolarz will be 24 in January in his 3rd AHL season.

If he has another mediocre year, he'll be branded as an average AHL goalie, if you can't put up .920+ in the AHL, what does that project to the NHL? To be viewed as a potential NHL starter, he has to be one of the two or three best starting goalies in the AHL.

If Hextall thought nothing of Stolarz he wouldn't have protected him from the expansion draft. A 23 year old goalie is still a baby. He has one more year of being waiver exempt. The Flyers would be foolish not to let him play another full season in the AHL as opposed to having him sit on the bench in the NHL.

AHL SV% does not translate to the NHL. Carey Price posted a .896 SV% in the AHL and later that year he was .920 in the NHL. Just go through the league and look at the goalies that outperformed their AHL numbers- Stolarz, Talbot, Dell, Holtby, Dubnyk, Crawford...

It's almost like goalies benefit from structure, good responsible players that manage the puck well and limit odd man rushes. Scott Gordon's system was the complete opposite. It was pond hockey. I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't watch the games, and instead spits his assumptions out all day, to recognize that though.

 

[The Madrigal]

Isn't it funny that some random guy in Vancouver talked about this last night on sports radio and then a St. Louis Blues beat guy reported potential terms of the deal? Meanwhile the Flyers beats, well, they are there.

 

[Hurricane28]

I believe this report more than the Vancouver rumor. Maybe the StL reporter has a source in the Elliott camp from his days there

 

[SanBlom]

Is Allen available?

I wish. Mrazek is the next best thing and he will make the turn in his career next year if we get him

 

[Tripod]

Another interesting note.
Chad Johnson had a .920% in Buffalo, .910 in Calgary, same as Elliott.
Maybe it was less the goalies than the Calgary defense?

The league average the last two years was .915 and .913.
Flyers was .905.
So I think we'd be happy with .910-.915, which really isn't asking too much of Elliott/Neuvirth.

That would be 12-25 fewer goals allowed.

Speak for yourself. Getting to .917 and above needs to the goal.

 

[healthyscratch]

Hexy must really think he's the answer because if he's not Hexy won't be here to see the end of that contract.