Blues Discussion Thread 2018-2019 - Part VI

[BlueDream]

Coaches decide who plays. The lower his base contract is, the more likely he would be sat or on IR if he was ineffective.

Well that wasn't the case earlier this season when they kept trotting him out there.

I just think people need to relax when it comes to throwing extensions at Bouwmeester and Gunnarsson. If we want to bring them back for a year, I'm good with that. But talking 2-3 years gets risky.

Now Gunnarsson is hurt again. He's pretty much made of glass.

 

[MissouriMook]

Well that wasn't the case earlier this season when they kept trotting him out there.

I just think people need to relax when it comes to throwing extensions at Bouwmeester and Gunnarsson. If we want to bring them back for a year, I'm good with that. But talking 2-3 years gets risky.

Now Gunnarsson is hurt again. He's pretty much made of glass.

A good portion of my point was that coaches often feel pressure to play a player based on his contract, and with a low base number that particular pressure wouldn’t be there.

 

[Alklha]

It's amazing how much better this team plays with a positionally sound goalie behind them. It's not just the save percentage going up in these games, it's like the whole team loosens up. This is the third goalie we've seen it with now and the third coach.

 

[trevorftw]

It's amazing how much better this team plays with a positionally sound goalie behind them. It's not just the save percentage going up in these games, it's like the whole team loosens up. This is the third goalie we've seen it with now and the third coach.

Yeah. At some point Armstrong won't be able to continue denying it.

 

[Vincenzo Arelliti]

It's amazing how much better this team plays with a positionally sound goalie behind them. It's not just the save percentage going up in these games, it's like the whole team loosens up. This is the third goalie we've seen it with now and the third coach.

Average goaltending is easier to find than elite talent. It’s always been the first thing we needed to take care of to turn this seasons round from a return-on-investment standpoint.

Good coaching is more difficult to come by but not if you already have a good roster.

The last step is to add another game breaker. Improving the defense is just icing and shouldn’t detract from our ability to get the first three needs.

 

[Dbrownss]

Yeah. At some point Armstrong won't be able to continue denying it.

I dont think he's denying it. You ask anyone connected the the Blues, they've been trying to get rid of Allen for over a season now.

We just got lucky with Binnington.

 

[PiggySmalls]

It makes it easier to transition to Binnington from a front office standpoint with him being home grown. It is one thing to trade off Allen in favor of bringing in a starting commodity from a different organization than it is to see a new goalie come up through the farm system and succeed in the league. That is the reason teams continue to draft goalies year in and year out. Eventually one is going to make a push for the NHL.

While there is still no telling how Binnington will play when he regresses to his mean, since none of us know what that will look like. We can only be hopeful that whether it is Binnington or someone else, the Blues will one day have a franchise goalie.

 

[Stealth JD]

It makes it easier to transition to Binnington from a front office standpoint with him being home grown. It is one thing to trade off Allen in favor of bringing in a starting commodity from a different organization than it is to see a new goalie come up through the farm system and succeed in the league. That is the reason teams continue to draft goalies year in and year out. Eventually one is going to make a push for the NHL.

While there is still no telling how Binnington will play when he regresses to his mean, since none of us know what that will look like. We can only be hopeful that whether it is Binnington or someone else, the Blues will one day have a franchise goalie.

Regress to the mean? What if Binnington improves and raises the mean? Don’t be such a downer dude.

 

[Xerloris]

It makes it easier to transition to Binnington from a front office standpoint with him being home grown. It is one thing to trade off Allen in favor of bringing in a starting commodity from a different organization than it is to see a new goalie come up through the farm system and succeed in the league. That is the reason teams continue to draft goalies year in and year out. Eventually one is going to make a push for the NHL.

While there is still no telling how Binnington will play when he regresses to his mean, since none of us know what that will look like. We can only be hopeful that whether it is Binnington or someone else, the Blues will one day have a franchise goalie.

he's done nothing but get better for the past 4ish years.

Jordan Binnington Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

 

[Klank Loves You]

he's done nothing but get better for the past 4ish years.

Jordan Binnington Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Goalies are weird, and even the stars have off years.

 

[BlueDream]

Yeah I honestly don’t think Binnington’s past means much of anything.

Some goalies are super hyped as prospects and they bust.

Other goalies come out of nowhere and become legit NHL starters.

It really is almost a coin flip.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

If you have any interest in advanced stats, you should check out the twitter accounts of Sean Tierney and Micah Blake McCurdy.

The reason I bring them up is because both are raving about the Blues and have been for quite awhile.

And for those who may like such things....

NHL Playoff Odds -MoneyPuck Analytics Based Playoff & Cup Odds

Check out the win the cup odds column.

I’m guessing some will wonder why Winnipeg is so low and it’s because the numbers suggest that they’re over performing and rather significantly too while the top 2 teams have both actually been unlucky. We certainly know that’s the case for Schwartz.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

If you have any interest in advanced stats, you should check out the twitter accounts of Sean Tierney and Micah Blake McCurdy.

The reason I bring them up is because both are raving about the Blues and have been for quite awhile.

And for those who may like such things....

NHL Playoff Odds -MoneyPuck Analytics Based Playoff & Cup Odds

Check out the win the cup odds column.

I’m guessing some will wonder why Winnipeg is so low and it’s because the numbers suggest that they’re over performing and rather significantly too while the top 2 teams have both actually been unlucky. We certainly know that’s the case for Schwartz.

If the Blues win the Cup, they shouldn’t make Berube the permanent head coach. They should make him emperor of Missouri.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

If the Blues win the Cup, they shouldn’t make Berube the permanent head coach. They should make him emperor of Missouri.

Emperor of Missouri sounds like a hick plumbing ad or something

Maybe it’s just me, but St. Louis always seems too......something for Missouri. Like culturally speaking, St. Louis should probably be in Illinois.

 

[Dbrownss]

Emperor of Missouri sounds like a hick plumbing ad or something

Maybe it’s just me, but St. Louis always seems too......something for Missouri. Like culturally speaking, St. Louis should probably be in Illinois.

Have you been to southern IL? It's just as bad as non Metro Missouri

 

[Dbrownss]

It makes it easier to transition to Binnington from a front office standpoint with him being home grown. It is one thing to trade off Allen in favor of bringing in a starting commodity from a different organization than it is to see a new goalie come up through the farm system and succeed in the league. That is the reason teams continue to draft goalies year in and year out. Eventually one is going to make a push for the NHL.

While there is still no telling how Binnington will play when he regresses to his mean, since none of us know what that will look like. We can only be hopeful that whether it is Binnington or someone else, the Blues will one day have a franchise goalie.

Blues fans will have to understand all goalies will have rough stretches and even seasons. Everyone is pining over Bobrovsky, but he's terrible in the POs. Theres others but the organizations stick with them. We tried that with Allen and it didnt work.

Watching Binnington is different then Allen, he's calm and positionally sound. He's capable of the highlight reel saves but they are few and far between

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Have you been to southern IL? It's just as bad as non Metro Missouri

This is true

 

[Stealth JD]

If you have any interest in advanced stats, you should check out the twitter accounts of Sean Tierney and Micah Blake McCurdy.

The reason I bring them up is because both are raving about the Blues and have been for quite awhile.

And for those who may like such things....

NHL Playoff Odds -MoneyPuck Analytics Based Playoff & Cup Odds

Check out the win the cup odds column.

I’m guessing some will wonder why Winnipeg is so low and it’s because the numbers suggest that they’re over performing and rather significantly too while the top 2 teams have both actually been unlucky. We certainly know that’s the case for Schwartz.

Ok - that model says the Blues have better odds of winning the Cup than the Lightning do.
Excuse me while I go laugh myself hysterical.

 

[yogintheaveragebears]

Emperor of Missouri sounds like a hick plumbing ad or something

Maybe it’s just me, but St. Louis always seems too......something for Missouri. Like culturally speaking, St. Louis should probably be in Illinois.

Yes please! And make Chicago its own state

 

[bleedblue1223]

If we end the season with 95+ points and Berube secures a playoff spot because of the team and not just because all the other opponents fall on their face, how confident are you with him as the coach moving forward? We know he isn't an elite coach, but we can't deny that he's done a hell of a job getting the players motivated and playing complete games again.

 

[The Note]

If we end the season with 95+ points and Berube secures a playoff spot because of the team and not just because all the other opponents fall on their face, how confident are you with him as the coach moving forward? We know he isn't an elite coach, but we can't deny that he's done a hell of a job getting the players motivated and playing complete games again.

I still wouldn’t want the Blues to name him coach without going through a full search and interview process in the summer. I’m fine with him being one of the candidates and would be alright with him getting the job, but with Q and TMac sitting out there, I hope they look at every option.

 

[Renard]

What a strange season. Who would have expected the Blues to be playing this well in February after their horrible start to the season? Three wins in a row against top teams, two of the three on the road, and no David Perron?

Everyone contributed, it seems, but I have to mention Vladimir Tarasenko. I suppose we have all seen the clip from Saturday's game vs. Nashville, Vladi screaming from the bench at the ref or a Nashville player. That is the most emotion I have ever seen from the guy. Its great to see. The sleeping giant has been awakened.

 

[bleedblue1223]

What a strange season. Who would have expected the Blues to be playing this well in February after their horrible start to the season? Three wins in a row against top teams, two of the three on the road, and no David Perron?

Everyone contributed, it seems, but I have to mention Vladimir Tarasenko. I suppose we have all seen the clip from Saturday's game vs. Nashville, Vladi screaming from the bench at the ref or a Nashville player. That is the most emotion I have ever seen from the guy. Its great to see. The sleeping giant has been awakened.

Yeah, whatever happened with him, he's finally back to being himself. If we have a prime Tarasenko to go with ROR, then we have an elite 1st line.

 

[Dbrownss]

If we end the season with 95+ points and Berube secures a playoff spot because of the team and not just because all the other opponents fall on their face, how confident are you with him as the coach moving forward? We know he isn't an elite coach, but we can't deny that he's done a hell of a job getting the players motivated and playing complete games again.

Idk....I still dont see a top tier offensive system, We need that. I'd say he went from a filler to someone to seriously consider. Maybe if we could add an offensive assistant coach, it could work.

 

[stlbluz]

If we end the season with 95+ points and Berube secures a playoff spot because of the team and not just because all the other opponents fall on their face, how confident are you with him as the coach moving forward? We know he isn't an elite coach, but we can't deny that he's done a hell of a job getting the players motivated and playing complete games again.

I'm pretty sure he said that the first thing he did was pull the locker room together as he didn't like the culture when he took over. Something like that IIRC. It seems to have worked.