Confirmed with Link: Bjugstad, McCann to PIT for Brassard, Sheahan, 2nd ('19) & two 4th rounders (both '19)

[Jean Luc Discard]

Lmao.

Is there a link? I love listening to people who have no clue what they’re talking about.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

it was more Busfurd than Buckford. Don is out to lunch.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Shehean won’t be resigning here. Our 4c are set for the foreseeable future. That would be stupid cap management

Yeah, ok. It depends on the price they can get him to agree to. You have no idea what he will sign for.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

I don't think neither Brassard and Sheahan will be traded if Brass meshes well with e.g. Troch and Hoff, and Sheahan is good on the PK and isn't involved in allowing a lot of goals. The Cats prospect pool is already is pretty good shape so additional picks aren't really needed unless the scouting staff has identified several diamonds in the rough in the upcoming draft.

Sheahan might get another one year deal with a similar price tag with the Cats when the bottom6 is in a constant limbo.

 

[vendetta]

Yeah, ok. It depends on the price they can get him to agree to. You have no idea what he will sign for.

I guarantee it won’t be cheaper than Lammikko . Case closed

 

[Gentle Man]

I guarantee it won’t be cheaper than Lammikko . Case closed

For potentially a difference of less than 500k I'll take the better player.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Lol. I liked Bjugstad. And McCann was alright. But I wouldn't describe either of them as tough!

Cmon, sure they were! Have you forgotten this?


I mean that was kinda adorable, like a little kitty screeching at a big annoyed thing twice its size. "Don't bully my bro you evil brute! Please don't hurt me..." Loved the standing up for a teammate but yikes.

 

[BB88]

I think we can all agree we *need*

1) 1A goalie
2) minimum top 4 D, preferably RHD


Shouldn’t we be acquiring those pieces before Panarin? They’re not going to come cheap either.

I like Panarin as much as anyone. And would like him on this team but we’d be adding to a postion of strength.

I guess it’s possible we can do all three (cap space is there) and the market may not allow us to get the three above with any prioritization. Bob on a long term contract worries me.

I’d also like a defensively responsible bottom 6 center to take some 5 on 5 matchup minutes away from Barkov.

Panarin is a franchise, game changing player in his prime. He improves the team by a mile and brings excitement around the team.

If you can land him you should.

It is/was the same with Tavares last year.

 

[pb1300]

Panarin is a franchise, game changing player in his prime. He improves the team by a mile and brings excitement around the team.

If you can land him you should.

It is/was the same with Tavares last year.

Completely agree. Even if he is a luxury, given our current crop of forwards, adding him to the mix gives the Panthers probably the most lethal top nine in the league.

Panarin - Barky - Daddy
Huberdeau - Trocheck - Vatrano
Hoffman - Borgstrom - Tippett
Sceviour - Sheahan - Hawryluk (I know Sheahan is a UFA, but if the price is right, Id re-sign him)

That is just ridiculous. When you can put a 30g/60p player on your 3rd line, that is just problems waiting to happen for the opposition. Our PP would be even better as well. With Panarin, and possibly Bob, we might not be able to land a big name top 4 Dman cause of the cap space, but we should still be able to get a serviceable one, who would be an upgrade over Pysyk.

 

[PSLguy]

Still not sold on spending that much $$ on a goalie, at this point in time.

Signing Bob for 7/8 years would be a mistake, IMO. His presence would block the NHL development of both Monty and Bednard.

Once again, IMO, Dale needs to find a two year stop gap at goal unless he plans on a Lou/Reimer tandem until Monty is ready.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Completely agree. Even if he is a luxury, given our current crop of forwards, adding him to the mix gives the Panthers probably the most lethal top nine in the league.

Panarin - Barky - Daddy
Huberdeau - Trocheck - Vatrano
Hoffman - Borgstrom - Tippett
Sceviour - Sheahan - Hawryluk (I know Sheahan is a UFA, but if the price is right, Id re-sign him)

That is just ridiculous. When you can put a 30g/60p player on your 3rd line, that is just problems waiting to happen for the opposition. Our PP would be even better as well. With Panarin, and possibly Bob, we might not be able to land a big name top 4 Dman cause of the cap space, but we should still be able to get a serviceable one, who would be an upgrade over Pysyk.

A lot can happen from here on out. The Cats after all got the best player on the Bjugs-trade in Brassard. If Brass-Troch-Hoff meshes well we might see Derick on some low risk deal back in the fold, who knows. Tippett really shouldn't be penciled on the starting roster if the Cats don't want to absorb the risk of him going through some learning period on how to defend against the pros. Rather have some pest/bruiser-type player on the 3rd line who can be sent to Springfield if need be.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Once again, IMO, Dale needs to find a two year stop gap at goal unless he plans on a Lou/Reimer tandem until Monty is ready.

If both Lu and Reimer go on posting some .920-.940 save%'s for the rest of the season, Dale might get cold feet on doing anything about the goat lending department.

 

[pb1300]

If both Lu and Reimer go on posting some .920-.940 save%'s for the rest of the season, Dale might get cold feet on doing anything about the goat lending department.

I dont think so. I doubt we go in to next season with those two again. Maybe Luongo stays as a backup, but both of them...nah!

 

[Dread Clawz]

For potentially a difference of less than 500k I'll take the better player.

Yeah me too call me crazy....

 

[RainingRats]

Panarin is a franchise, game changing player in his prime. He improves the team by a mile and brings excitement around the team.

If you can land him you should.

It is/was the same with Tavares last year.

Like I said, a very nice to have. If we have a choice between a true #1 in net or Panarin, I’m taking the goalie.

 

[KW]

Like I said, a very nice to have. If we have a choice between a true #1 in net or Panarin, I’m taking the goalie.

Same here.

If last night’s game is an indication, what we need as much or more than Panarin’s skill, is continued Brassard-like grit and effort. It can change the team’s soft culture, which would be way more valuable than Panarin’s accurate shot.

Besides, if getting Panarin means having to let Dadonov or Hoffman go, how much did we really gain? A little, maybe, but not enough.

——-

So, we have the cap space now to spend on FAs. Why should they have to be Bob and/or Pan? They don’t. Open space means open options. Time to be very smart for the TEAM’s sake.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Still not sold on spending that much $$ on a goalie, at this point in time.

Signing Bob for 7/8 years would be a mistake, IMO. His presence would block the NHL development of both Monty and Bednard.

It's a compromise that just has to be made imo. No way you ride this Lou&Reims tandem next year and Monty/Bednard can't be even in the discussion if they want to be serious about competing.

Though I don't think Bob will get 7/8 years since he's 31 starting next year. I could see five years happening

 

[BB88]

Like I said, a very nice to have. If we have a choice between a true #1 in net or Panarin, I’m taking the goalie.

I wouldn't. Panarin types shouldn't hit the market and when they do you get him and figure out things later. He'd be your 2nd best player, there's not a Panarin level goalie available.

So you sign Panarin and do whatever you can to get the best goalie after him.

You put Hoffman on the market for example and get extra assets, go after a goalie via trade with assets or trade Hoffman for goalie straight up or sign a goalie.

Or you sign both Panarin+ Bob and simply trade Hoffman for cap space+ assets.

Completely agree. Even if he is a luxury, given our current crop of forwards, adding him to the mix gives the Panthers probably the most lethal top nine in the league.

Panarin - Barky - Daddy
Huberdeau - Trocheck - Vatrano
Hoffman - Borgstrom - Tippett
Sceviour - Sheahan - Hawryluk (I know Sheahan is a UFA, but if the price is right, Id re-sign him)

That is just ridiculous. When you can put a 30g/60p player on your 3rd line, that is just problems waiting to happen for the opposition. Our PP would be even better as well. With Panarin, and possibly Bob, we might not be able to land a big name top 4 Dman cause of the cap space, but we should still be able to get a serviceable one, who would be an upgrade over Pysyk.

Every team given the chance would love to add a franchie player in their prime. Gm's are always looking for game changers, Panarin is one.

Panarin+ better goalie than either of the current 2 make Florida a helluva team.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

I wouldn't. Panarin types shouldn't hit the market and when they do you get him and figure out things later. He'd be your 2nd best player.

You put Hoffman on the market for example and get extra assets, go after a goalie via trade with assets or trade Hoffman for goalie straight up or sign a goalie.

Or you sign both Panarin+ Bob and simply trade Hoffman for cap space+ assets.

OK. So put the Panthers' 2nd best player on the market in order to get a new 2nd best player who'd actually be a slight downgrade when considering the overall impact on the ice.

 

[BB88]

OK. So put the Panthers' 2nd best player on the market in order to get a new 2nd best player who'd actually be a slight downgrade when considering the overall impact on the ice.

Panarin>> Hoffman, and you can get Panarin signed in his midd prime, Panarin on his next contract >>> Hoffman on his next contract.

Sign Panarin for free and trade Hoffman/assets for better goalie= better Florida team.

 

[PSLguy]

It's a compromise that just has to be made imo. No way you ride this Lou&Reims tandem next year and Monty/Bednard can't be even in the discussion if they want to be serious about competing.

Though I don't think Bob will get 7/8 years since he's 31 starting next year. I could see five years happening

Who knows some crazy GM's might give Bob 7/8. It seems UFA's get overpaid and Dale has a history of overpaying.

I would rather see a 2/3 year stopgap with Lou playing 30 or so games per year.

 

[Ghoste]

I like Bob but I'm scared of dishing out 8 million. What is Varly supposed to make?

-ghoste

 

[CHGoalie27]

Saying to take caution with Bob is fine. I would argue that the past 5 years should weigh more than a down season from a player that wants out but I get it.

But then to compare Reimer and a 2nd for Bob to Hall for Larsson? Insane. James Reimer is trash lol.

The comparison is trash sure, but Reimer hasn't looked like trash lately...

 

[CHGoalie27]

Who knows some crazy GM's might give Bob 7/8. It seems UFA's get overpaid and Dale has a history of overpaying.

I would rather see a 2/3 year stopgap with Lou playing 30 or so games per year.

Whose side are you on! Read the back of my shirt next game!!!

#TEAMSAMMY

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Regarding Bobrovsky, there is a very limited market for him. It is literally Florida and Philly, who I doubt makes this since they got Hart. Even before this trade I always thought there was a pretty good chance he was coming here. This trade allowed Florida to bring in a 2nd top tier player.

And for anyone nervous the only other option is Varlamov. I would definitely prefer Bob.